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One game i was surprised by on the Wii U was Captain Toad. But it sounds like I'm going to have to give Yoshi a go now.
Just Dance still gets released for the original Wii, there's a good chance of JD 2019 coming to Wii U as well.Just a heads up, probably the last two physical releases for the console are up for pre order - Just Dance 2018 and Axiom Verge Multiverse ed.
Axiom Verge is a really nice way to go out and will probably be a collectors item in the years to come.
Further to this, look at sales so far this generation compared to last.
PS4 will probably beat PS3, might get to 100 million.
One will not beat the 360. They'd be happy with 50-60 million.
Wii U will not get close to the Wii. It will be surprising if it gets to even 20 million.
3DS absolute best case scenario is still half of the DS, more likely 60-70 million.
Vita is on track for a 10th of the PSP's sales - 8 million.
The entire market has dramatically shrunk, and the console makers need to consider whether the traditional pattern of hardware release is still viable.
The market hasn't shrunk apart from the wii casual gamers. The truth is that there's two generations running in parallel. Many haven't transitioned yet.
Your key statements were clearly wrong.So the tiny growth in console market revenue (not profits), which may not even be accounting for inflation, and which is primarily due to the non-traditional Switch, is meant to be proof of your point, even as Nintendo tosses up the best way to release hardware going forward, and Microsoft moves towards a model whereby Xbox becomes more and more integrated with Windows, suggesting they too may abandon the traditional hardware release model, and Sony has abandoned the handheld console market.
All for something said more than four years ago.
“The entire market has dramatically shrunk”.Which ones were my 'key' statements? Nintendo did not do a traditional console, Microsoft has put themselves in a limbo whereby their traditional console is acting more like a gaming-only PC, Sony is the only one sticking with the model. That fits with what I said in my post that I was responding to in the first post you quoted.
I correctly estimated the sales figures for the consoles.
The entire console market has indeed shrunk from where it was at the peak of the Wii/PS3/360 generation, a period your stats don't even show.
Unless...did you think by 'market' I meant video games in general, and not the console market specifically? Contextually it seems pretty clear that the discussion was about the console market, but that's the only way I can make sense of your post.
It’s not out of context and you were clearly wrong as history now shows that both the console market and entire market haven’t dramatically shrunk.Does this mean you've spent four and a half years dwelling on a statement that you've taken out of its context to mean something other than what it meant?
I couldn’t remember the thread or context but I was reading about Switch sales and vaguely remembered this debate, so I searched it and read over your comments and had a laugh.Cool, so the market has shrunk for consoles given inflation and the combination of Nintendo's handhelds and home consoles into the same device.
Please tell me you just stumbled across this thread and that you didn't actually sit on this for four years.
Oh yes, I'm certainly stubborn...but only when the facts back me up. You haven't actually countered anything I've said, and apparently still think that my post meant that I was talking about the market for video games in general even though it would've made no sense for me to say that given the context of the posts. You may also be getting me confused with eth-dog re: Essendon board, which doesn't speak wonders about your memory.I couldn’t remember the thread or context but I was reading about Switch sales and vaguely remembered this debate, so I searched it and read over your comments and had a laugh.
Your statement was wrong and it’s funny to see you trying to redefine the core of what you were saying at the time.
I just think you look like an idiot not being able to say “hey I got it wrong this time” and I genuinely wonder if it’s a reflection of your character IRL (not that it matters, but just a curiosity). I know you’ve been mocked for being stubborn/wrong on the Essendon board, from memory.
No it was definitely you on the board.Oh yes, I'm certainly stubborn...but only when the facts back me up. You haven't actually countered anything I've said, and apparently still think that my post meant that I was talking about the market for video games in general even though it would've made no sense for me to say that given the context of the posts. You may also be getting me confused with eth-dog re: Essendon board, which doesn't speak wonders about your memory.
Dearie me.No it was definitely you on the board.
You said the market (whether you meant consoles alone or entire gaming industry) had dramatically shrunk. This is factually, demonstratively wrong. That is a counter, a check-mate and a knock-out blow.
You have countered with no facts and I award you no points.
To try to say that consoles + handhelds combined is what you meant is a very cringey effort to pretend you were right, and I’m sorry that you were wrong but I can’t do anything about it.