Play Nice The NM Devil's Chessboard Thread - Part II

[Val Keating]

???

She’s Mossad like her dad.

 

[Chadwiko]

She’s Mossad like her dad.

Yeah... nah.

A lot of anti-semites say that. But nah.

 

[Del191229]

"Return"? She's never lived there* and has no Israeli citizenship. Her dad (who was also a world class piece of shit, as I'm sure you're aware) was Jewish, but her mother wasn't and for most of her life Ghislaine never identified as Jewish. She was raised Anglican/Protestant.

Yes, Mossad agents tend to build good legends like that.

And yes, I'm very very aware of who her Dad was and what he did.

Maxwell was afforded a lavish funeral in Israel, attended by Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Shamir, Israeli President Chaim Herzog, at least six serving and former heads of Israeli intelligence and many dignitaries and politicians, both government and opposition, and was buried on the Mount of Olives in Jerusalem.

They don't give you that just for chucking some $$$ their way lol.

Once she was incarcerated, she started claiming to be Jewish, but most Jews (including me) seem to think she was doing that under the guise of getting access to kosher food (which is better quality than 'standard' prison food) and private time out of her cell for prayers, as well as not being allocated prison work on Shabbat and Jewish holidays.

See above.

*I know that after Jeffrey was arrested she went to Israel, but again... seems to be a matter of convenience rather than anything cultural.

LOL bro.

 

[Del191229]

Yeah... nah.

A lot of anti-semites say that. But nah.

Calling people anti semitic is THE classic means of trying to deflect from Israeli intelligence work.

She is and was a first class intelligence agent. I'm complimenting her when I say she's a soldier lol.

 

[Chadwiko]

Calling people anti semitic is THE classic means of trying to deflect from Israeli intelligence work.

She is and was a first class intelligence agent. I'm complimenting her when I say she's a soldier lol.

Yeah nah I don't subscribe to this conspiracy theory but I welcome any evidence you want to share to try and change my mind.

 

[Val Keating]

Yeah... nah.

A lot of anti-semites say that. But nah.

Please

 

[DesertRoo]

Yeah nah I don't subscribe to this conspiracy theory but I welcome any evidence you want to share to try and change my mind.

I’m with you on this one, she was just a naive young boarding school brat, who happened to be friends with prince andrew, running off her fathers legacy.
She got pulled into that evil Jeffery man’s obit, because of money problems and she was just finding young girls for Jeff because he didn’t have a childhood or something..
oh and the submarine licence was because she wanted to work out on the rigs, childhood dream and all that..

Free the Gizz

 

[DesertRoo]

Yep, for sure.



Yep, now he's realised his protection has run out. This is the big question after all: who was protecting him so he could get away with all this and why.

I reckon he outlived his usefulness in neutering hip hop and has become disposable.



She's a soldier ... I reckon she gets quietly released and ends up returning to Israel after a while too.

Like Pollard.

There’s certainly something that’s changed in the US, all of those previous untouchables seem to have investigations rolled out.

 

[Val Keating]

I’m with you on this one, she was just a naive young boarding school brat, who happened to be friends with prince andrew, running off her fathers legacy.
She got pulled into that evil Jeffery man’s obit, because of money problems and she was just finding young girls for Jeff because he didn’t have a childhood or something..
oh and the submarine licence was because she wanted to work out on the rigs, childhood dream and all that..

Free the Gizz

She’s the real victim here. Shameful and antisemitic to connect her to Israeli spy agencies

 

[ferball]

This is very very sad.

Yep, we're ****ed. Basically.

 

[ferball]

Yeah... nah.

A lot of anti-semites say that. But nah.

Her old man was completely Mossad. They brag about him and the work he did for them. Its not anti semitic to be aware of that.

As for her - who knows. Wouldn't be surprised tho.

 

[Val Keating]

Officially no, but he's not the first member of his administration indicted. TLDR he brought in a whole heap of unqualified people on his payroll.

My best guess based on previous indictments is that it's something of a pay-for-play type of corruption.



Eh, not really. But I also think people are making more out of the Diddy stuff that really exists.

Don't get me wrong; definitely a deviant and definitely disgusting etc, but too many people (especially people on the conservative side) seem to be pinning their hopes to Diddy being some sort of Epstein-level event that'll bring down everyone on the left and in the music industry. I don't see Diddy's situation leading to that kind of situation.

Besides, those same conservatives should probably be more worried about who Diddy was actually close to for years, what with him being a prominent New Yorker and all. And just quietly is the only prominent person who seems to have been regularly pictured at events with both Diddy and Epstein;

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You know that Trump was loved by rappers in the 90’s yeah…still is. Though I doubt Trump let Puff do him like Meek

 

[DesertRoo]

You know that Trump was loved by rappers in the 90’s yeah…still is. Though I doubt Trump let Puff do him like Meek

Roy Cohn enters the chat

 

[ferball]

Yeah not surprising, democrats turned into the party of war.

Turned into? They were always war mongers.

 

[DesertRoo]

Turned into? They were always war mongers.

vernacular for our unwashed friends, I mean all the way with LBJ has to be one of the greatest war cries in history.

 

[ferball]

Hmmmm, I dunno.

Personally, I see Diddy as a cheap talentless thug (like his Daddy) who at best exploited real artists and at worst - and I'm leaning to this more and more - worked WITH various spooky types to infiltrate hip hop and depoliticise it and turn it into "safe" bullshit about money and bitchez.

His rise coincides perfectly with that change ... and the reality is the 1992 LA riots absolutely terrified the establishment in the US, who understood that hip hop was fundamentally protest music.

Thus it had to be defanged.

It IS a culture war issue, just not a 2024 one, more 1994.



They've long ago managed to sever that connection re Epstein, doubt the Diddy stuff plays in.

The Diddy does run very deep in the music industry though I reckon.

Christ, he manages to make Suge Knight look like a decent human being

Don't forget there were riots in at least another five cities in the US, maybe 10, at the time of the LA Riots. Not on the same scale obviously. It wasn't publicised, cos as you say, the establishment were terrified. My aunt was in the US at the time in another city, maybe Seattle, maybe Philly can't remember, but she talked about how they were stuck because of these riots. But very little was publicised about the other cities even in the US.

Knew people in the US who watched parts of LA burn live on TV but didn't know about the other riots and struggled to accept they even happened.

There might have even been riots in Canadia... maybe not but it was a long time ago so i wouldn't be surprised either way.

Hip hop was very different back then. It was intelligent, articulate and very aware of the US and where black americans fitted in. It was woke in the real and original meaning of the word.

 

[DesertRoo]

Don't forget there were riots in at least another five cities in the US, maybe 10, at the time of the LA Riots. Not on the same scale obviously. It wasn't publicised, cos as you say, the establishment were terrified. My aunt was in the US at the time in another city, maybe Seattle, maybe Philly can't remember, but she talked about how they were stuck because of these riots. But very little was publicised about the other cities even in the US.

Knew people in the US who watched parts of LA burn live on TV but didn't know about the other riots and struggled to accept they even happened.

There might have even been riots in Canadia... maybe not but it was a long time ago so i wouldn't be surprised either way.

Hip hop was very different back then. It was intelligent, articulate and very aware of the US and where black americans fitted in. It was woke in the real and original meaning of the word.

They kept my history a mystery but now I see the American Dream wasn’t meant for me. Cause lady liberty is a hypocrite, she lied to me. Promised me freedom, education, and equality. They kept my ancestors shackled up in slavery and Uncle Sam never did a damn thing for me, except lie about the facts in my history.

 

[ferball]

Turn it up.

Bring the noise!

 

[DesertRoo]

You rock Springfield..

 

[Chadwiko]

I’m with you on this one, she was just a naive young boarding school brat, who happened to be friends with prince andrew, running off her fathers legacy.
She got pulled into that evil Jeffery man’s obit, because of money problems and she was just finding young girls for Jeff because he didn’t have a childhood or something..
oh and the submarine licence was because she wanted to work out on the rigs, childhood dream and all that..

Free the Gizz

Har dee har har.

Ghislaine is an evil, vain, and insidious woman raised by an evil, vain, and insidious father. She is many, many, many things.

Mossad though? I'm yet to see any evidence of that whatsoever. I see a lot of truly awful people making that claim though based on vibes.

 

[DesertRoo]

Har dee har har.

Ghislaine is an evil, vain, and insidious woman raised by an evil, vain, and insidious father. She is many, many, many things.

Mossad though? I'm yet to see any evidence of that whatsoever. I see a lot of truly awful people making that claim though based on vibes.

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what say you about Epstein?
US Attorney Alex Acosta;
“he worked for Intel/its above my pay grade” and obvious Gizz was just along for the ride…
Free Gizz

 

[ferball]

Har dee har har.

Ghislaine is an evil, vain, and insidious woman raised by an evil, vain, and insidious father. She is many, many, many things.

Mossad though? I'm yet to see any evidence of that whatsoever. I see a lot of truly awful people making that claim though based on vibes.

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Ari Ben-Menashe claimed Epstein was a Mossad agent and that he and Maxwell ran that operation to benefit Mossad and Israel.

He may even be a truly awful person but he was one of the original leakers of the Iran Contra/Iran Weapons Deal/October Surprise story and a couple of former Mossad chiefs have said he is credible and his stuff is accurate. Its just a claim, not evidence but he's a credible source, well as credible as you'll get as far as an ex spy goes.

 

[travelli]

What do you do about this guy? If all allies call for a ceasefire and he just blows them off, are there any implications?

We can't keep shrugging and saying that we tried.

‘With full force’: Israel rejects US, Australian backed ceasefire plan

In New York, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said that Israel will continue striking Hezbollah and will not stop until all of its goals are achieved.

www.theage.com.au

 

[DesertRoo]

Ari Ben-Menashe claimed Epstein was a Mossad agent and that he and Maxwell ran that operation to benefit Mossad and Israel.

He may even be a truly awful person but he was one of the original leakers of the Iran Contra/Iran Weapons Deal/October Surprise story and a couple of former Mossad chiefs have said he is credible and his stuff is accurate. Its just a claim, not evidence but he's a credible source, well as credible as you'll get as far as an ex spy goes.

Ari sounds like an anti semite…

 

[Ichiro #51]

Pretty much standard NYC politics for decades and decades now.



Hmmmm, I dunno.

Personally, I see Diddy as a cheap talentless thug (like his Daddy) who at best exploited real artists and at worst - and I'm leaning to this more and more - worked WITH various spooky types to infiltrate hip hop and depoliticise it and turn it into "safe" bullshit about money and bitchez.

His rise coincides perfectly with that change ... and the reality is the 1992 LA riots absolutely terrified the establishment in the US, who understood that hip hop was fundamentally protest music.

Thus it had to be defanged.

I agree the various conservative types are totally overegging or more accurately have the political side on Diddy wrong.

It IS a culture war issue, just not a 2024 one, more 1994.



They've long ago managed to sever that connection re Epstein, doubt the Diddy stuff plays in.

The Diddy does run very deep in the music industry though I reckon.

Christ, he manages to make Suge Knight look like a decent human being

That was really interesting, thanks.

I always just assumed Diddy to be a fairly typical ultra narcissistic power hungry scumbag, but what you say here makes quite a bit of sense.