Play Nice The NM Devils Chessboard thread.

[the big lebowski]

Lot of talk for not much

 

[Chadwiko]

Lot of talk for not much

Strongly disagree.

This was extremely destabilising for Russia and damaging for Putin.

This was hugely significant. Laugh at anyone who tries to suggest otherwise.

 

[Del191229]

Still doing the Lord's work in Syria.

 

[Del191229]

Lot of talk for not much

They didn't even storm the Duma.

 

[DesertRoo]

I’m not sure you can make any of those assumptions, take everything that happens out of Russia with a grain of salt.

 

[Kangaroos4eva]

I’m not sure you can make any of those assumptions, take everything that happens out of Russia with a grain of salt.

For sure, but you just had your own mercenary group seize one of your own cities, shoot down several helicopters, get within 200km of Moscow, then have Putin call Wagner traitors and then fully clear them after Belarus’ leader negotiates a deal (likely under Putin’s direction). All within 24 hours.

No matter how you spin it, this exercise in ‘gangland politics’ has made Putin appear incredibly reactive and weak, and had an overt destabilising effect during wartime.

 

[Del191229]

These sociopaths.

 

[Chadwiko]

For sure, but you just had your own mercenary group seize one of your own cities, shoot down several helicopters, get within 200km of Moscow, then have Putin call Wagner traitors and then fully clear them after Belarus’ leader negotiates a deal (likely under Putin’s direction). All within 24 hours.

No matter how you spin it, this exercise in ‘gangland politics’ has made Putin appear incredibly reactive and weak, and had an overt destabilising effect during wartime.

Don't forget that they actually took TWO major cities, and reportedly caused Putin and multiple high-level government officials to flee Moscow which makes them lose face, too.

They can deny this happened, and I'm sure they will, but the data and reliable reports are out there for all to see.

 

[Del191229]

They don't hide it do they.

 

[Chadwiko]

lol imagine quoting Max Blumenthal.

Fully mask-off.

 

[Kangaroos4eva]

Don't forget that they actually took TWO major cities, and reportedly caused Putin and multiple high-level government officials to flee Moscow which makes them lose face, too.

They can deny this happened, and I'm sure they will, but the data and reliable reports are out there for all to see.

Not sure if they fully took Vorezenh. They definitely took sections of it, but most of the convoys and mechanised units bypassed it to head to Moscow.

 

[Chadwiko]

Not sure if the they fully took Vorezenh. They definitely took sections of it, but most of the convoys and mechanised units bypassed it to head to Moscow.

Fair point. Reports were they'd taken the air field and supply depots etc.

 

[Kangaroos4eva]

Still doing the Lord's work in Syria.

They never left.

 

[Del191229]

For sure, but you just had your own mercenary group seize one of your own cities, shoot down several helicopters, get within 200km of Moscow, then have Putin call Wagner traitors and then fully clear them after Belarus’ leader negotiates a deal (likely under Putin’s direction). All within 24 hours.

No matter how you spin it, this exercise in ‘gangland politics’ has made Putin appear incredibly reactive and weak, and had an overt destabilising effect during wartime.

Doesn't seem to have bothered this Alligator pilot and his gunner.

 

[Del191229]

They never left.

I know, they were invited by the government and everything.

Unlike Australia that flew close air support missions on behalf of ISIS scum there.

 

[Kangaroos4eva]

Lot of talk for not much

I get this take for the average person and it didn’t last long, but it was an armed insurrection by a mercenary group that seized an entire city and large parts of another. Hard to spin this as any sort of victory for Putin.

 

[Del191229]

For you Chadwiko

 

[Chadwiko]

I really really hope no one here had been using this thread as their main way of staying informed about the conflict, because it has been absolutely dominated by pro-Russian propaganda, with a notable 6 month~ gap.

As I was saying...

 

[Del191229]

The same Anne Applebaum that was on the editorial board of the Washington Post when they said we had to invade Iraq because evidence of Saddam having WMD was "irrefutable" lololololol.

 

[Val Keating]

I doubt that pardon will stick though.

Russian oligarchs have “fallen” out of windows for much less. He’s a dead man.

 

[Val Keating]

This is extremely bizarre

Prigozhin is mental and his army is full of gangsters and criminals he pulled out of prison to fight. He’s been threatening to do this for months, he’s posted a few videos of himself saying what he will do if Shoigu didn’t stop withholding weapons from them.

 

[Val Keating]

 

[krakouers]

Russian oligarchs have “fallen” out of windows for much less. He’s a dead man.

“Exiled” Straight into the arms of a Putin Bestie?
There is a 7.62mm getting a name engraved in preparation

 

[the big lebowski]

I get this take for the average person and it didn’t last long, but it was an armed insurrection by a mercenary group that seized an entire city and large parts of another. Hard to spin this as any sort of victory for Putin.

I’m not spinning it for Putin. He said they’re be punished and they weren’t. Everyone comes away looking weak. Not sure it makes a difference with anything.

 

[Del191229]

I get this take for the average person and it didn’t last long, but it was an armed insurrection by a mercenary group that seized an entire city and large parts of another. Hard to spin this as any sort of victory for Putin.

They didn't "seize" anything lol.