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[Del191229]

Western mercs in Ukraine sooking that the Russians can actually fight very effectively - unlike their experience as colonial bullies in Iraq and Afghanistan - is one of my favourites genres.

 

[Del191229]

Well yeah, obviously. Its why they got elected in the first place.

How Europe’s far right is marching steadily into the mainstream

Whether in Italy, Spain, France or Finland, parties that were once outcasts are fast gaining respectability – and power

www.theguardian.com

 

[Kangaroos4eva]

 

[Roos9699]

Well yeah, obviously. Its why they got elected in the first place.

Honestly don't know too much about Polands politics sounds like they're the eqivelant of One Nation then.

 

[Kangaroos4eva]

How Europe’s far right is marching steadily into the mainstream

Whether in Italy, Spain, France or Finland, parties that were once outcasts are fast gaining respectability – and power

www.theguardian.com

The guardian’s definition of far-right is anyone slightly right of centre, so always a grain of salt when citing partisan outlets like the guardian, Sky, ABC, NYT, NY post, etc.

 

[Del191229]

Look at this creepy neo-fascist weirdo.

 

[Kangaroos4eva]

Honestly don't know too much about Polands politics sounds like they're the eqivelant of One Nation then.

I suggest doing your own research on this stuff and read from a variety of sources. We all have our biases on this board.

 

[Del191229]

The guardian’s definition of far-right is anyone slightly right of centre, so always a grain of salt when citing partisan outlets like the guardian, Sky, ABC, NYT, NY post, etc.

Nah man, the parties they talk about there are clearly far-right.

 

[ferball]

How's this song for a prediction:

2022, a new European order
Robot guards patrolling the border
Cybernetic dogs are getting closer and closer
Armored cars and immigration officers

 

[ferball]

The guardian’s definition of far-right is anyone slightly right of centre, so always a grain of salt when citing partisan outlets like the guardian, Sky, ABC, NYT, NY post, etc.

Kaczinsky used rhetoric last seen in Nazi Germany on his way to winning the 2015 election in Poland.

Polish opposition warns refugees could spread infectious diseases

Poland's largest opposition party, tipped to win the country's Oct. 25 election, rallied behind its leader on Thursday after he warned that refugees from the Middle East could bring diseases and parasites to Poland.

www.reuters.com

Poland: Election talk on migrant 'protozoas' gets ugly

The man who could be Poland’s next PM has said refugees could bring “cholera” and “parasites” to Europe, prompting accusations of “Nazi”-type rhetoric.

euobserver.com

Migrants carry ‘parasites and protozoa,’ warns Polish opposition leader

Law and Justice chief plays on antipathy to foreigners ahead of parliamentary election.

www.politico.eu

 

[Kangaroos4eva]

Nah man, the parties they talk about there are clearly far-right.

Respectfully disagree on definitional terms, but this isn't the thread for it, so I'll leave it.

 

[Roos9699]

I suggest doing your own research on this stuff and read from a variety of sources. We all have our biases on this board.

Agreed and I do try to look at a variety of outlets. I've seen more then my share of Russian State TV during the invasion of Ukraine as well as other sources.

Stuff like this pretty much common place coming out of Russia

 

[Kangaroos4eva]

Kaczinsky used rhetoric last seen in Nazi Germany on his way to winning the 2015 election in Poland.

Polish opposition warns refugees could spread infectious diseases

Poland's largest opposition party, tipped to win the country's Oct. 25 election, rallied behind its leader on Thursday after he warned that refugees from the Middle East could bring diseases and parasites to Poland.

www.reuters.com

Poland: Election talk on migrant 'protozoas' gets ugly

The man who could be Poland’s next PM has said refugees could bring “cholera” and “parasites” to Europe, prompting accusations of “Nazi”-type rhetoric.

euobserver.com

Migrants carry ‘parasites and protozoa,’ warns Polish opposition leader

Law and Justice chief plays on antipathy to foreigners ahead of parliamentary election.

www.politico.eu

The racist refugees are dirty and bring diseases rhetoric significantly predates Nazism and the contemporary far-right. The rhetoric has more of a medieval lineage to the European treatment of gypsies and Jews, including some ties to the European Wars of Religion in the 16th century. You could probably even go back to the ancient stuff for that type of rhetoric. It runs deeper than Nazism.

As I said, I'll leave this alone as I don't want this thread to become a new RC thread.

 

[ferball]

Associating an "ethnic" (really religious) group with disease is what the Nazis did and its the same dog whistle that campaigner in Poland used.

 

[Kangaroos4eva]

Agreed and I do try to look at a variety of outlets. I've seen more then my share of Russian State TV during the invasion of Ukraine as well as other sources.

Stuff like this pretty much common place coming out of Russia

Always be careful of state media of course. They are even worse than us in their biases.

 

[Roos9699]

Always be careful of state media of course. They are even worse than us in their biases.

Absolutley, In this case though it's useful as Kremlin has a large amount of power over its media which can be useful to view and see how they're trying to portray things.

 

[Del191229]

Bit of a pattern forming hey ferball

Finland minister quits amid new 'mass abortions for Africa' scandal

The extremist comments and behaviour of Vilhelm Junnila have come under scrutiny since his appointment as minister for economic affairs just last Tuesday.

www.euronews.com

 

[Kangaroos4eva]

Some really disappointing Twitter and media commentary on the French riots. Surely commentators are better than ‘all Muslim immigrants are bad’ and ‘France is deeply racist’. The real world is a lot more complicated and nuanced, and the vast majority of people genuinely mean well, bar a small minority.

 

[Del191229]

Some really disappointing Twitter and media commentary on the French riots. Surely commentators are better than ‘all Muslim immigrants are bad’ and ‘France is deeply racist’. The real world is a lot more complicated and nuanced, and the vast majority of people genuinely mean well, bar a small minority.

France is deeply racist man. To its core. I've spent a lot of time there, a lot of time with French people, and the casual and very overt racism directed towards North African people is simply stunning.

As in I have been stunned by the stuff that people I knew very well would say on occasion.

 

[Kangaroos4eva]

France is deeply racist man. To its core. I've spent a lot of time there, a lot of time with French people, and the casual and very overt racism directed towards North African people is simply stunning.

As in I have been stunned by the stuff that people I knew very well would say on occasion.

A relatively high number of Africans migrating and staying for multiple generations in a ‘supposedly deeply racist country’ suggests otherwise. You don’t tend to migrate, stay and lay roots in countries that are extremely racist to you.

There’s always a vocal racist minority in western countries that makes racism appear a bigger problem than actually is.

 

[Del191229]

Aw look, he put a little bit of paper over the Swastika. Cute.

 

[Del191229]

A relatively high number of Africans migrating and staying for multiple generations in a ‘supposedly deeply racist country’ suggests otherwise. You don’t tend to stay and lay roots in countries that are extremely racist to you.

There’s always a vocal racist minority in western countries that makes racism appear a bigger problem than actually is.

That's a very simplistic analysis. A better one would be why do those people keep rioting against racism.

Tbh, this is a bit of a weird one, that France is a deeply racist country isn't really a contested thing, its a fact.

 

[Kangaroos4eva]

Now I know why I left this and the RC thread. Some posters can’t argue in good faith. Ignoring and leaving this thread.

 

[Del191229]

Even Richard Haass gets it now.

 

[Del191229]

Now I know why I left this and the RC thread. Some posters can’t argue in good faith. Ignoring and leaving this thread.

No need to leave mate, its just a disagreement, nothing personal.