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[Makeshift Park]

Boeing suspends jet maintenance for Russian airlines

Boeing is suspending technical support operations for its planes owned by Russian airlines in response to Moscow’s attack on Ukraine.

www.rt.com

This is f’ed. Anyone here willing to defend it?

The last thing we should be doing is getting in a race to the bottom.

Yep! Russia's war of aggression forced Boeing to close their Kiev office, I can't see how Boeing's decision to close their Moscow operations is any worse. Their only obligations are to their shareholders, their debtors, and their US regulators, and I can only imagine their compliance division was having nightmares at the thought of operations continuing after the US has sanctioned most of Russia's banking world. See also: Ford, Baker McKenzie, BP, Shell, Exxon, Visa and Mastercard.

 

[ferball]

Yep! Russia's war of aggression forced Boeing to close their Kiev office, I can't see how Boeing's decision to close their Moscow operations is any worse. Their only obligations are to their shareholders, their debtors, and their US regulators, and I can only imagine their compliance division was having nightmares at the thought of operations continuing after the US has sanctioned most of Russia's banking world. See also: Ford, Baker McKenzie, BP, Shell, Exxon, Visa and Mastercard.

I know its only Russians and they are all evil but civilians will use those planes, not the Russian establishment.

But apart from the stupid anti fascist article that belongs in the onion the other articles are not propaganda, just news.

Once upon a time the internet would mirror shit like that with or without any judgement on the authors. Its not right that it doesn't any more.

 

[B4Bear]

Okay its there now.

No more 403 forbidden.

Pentagon confirms US position on Ukraine no-fly zone

The US is not discussing setting up a no-fly zone over Ukraine despite calls from Kiev to do so, a Pentagon official has confirmed

www.rt.com

This seems reasonable.

Russia announces first International Anti-Fascist Congress

Russia has announced its first anti-fascism congress to unite international efforts to fight against Nazi ideology

www.rt.com

That's hilarious tho. I've met Russian antifa people online over the years. No way they'd agree with this war. They're probably in jail now.

Boeing suspends jet maintenance for Russian airlines

Boeing is suspending technical support operations for its planes owned by Russian airlines in response to Moscow’s attack on Ukraine.

www.rt.com

This is f’ed. Anyone here willing to defend it?

The last thing we should be doing is getting in a race to the bottom.

Yeah I will defend this.

There are rules if you want to interact with civilised society.
In your obvious live in bumfvckville naivaty of good ol’ boy NSW there are real world consequences for your actions that you are ignorant of.

This is one of them. If ou annoy the corporations you deal with, they will cut you off.

I refer you to the creators of ‘Fortnite’ and their interaction with Apple.

Companies, corporations such as apple, BP, Boeing, Airbus, every one actually have decided that Russia are toxic beyond belief.

Would you care to explain why Boeing, or anyone else MUST provide support to Russia?

Waiting for your fascinating demand.

 

[the big lebowski]

I know its only Russians and they are all evil but civilians will use those planes, not the Russian establishment.

But apart from the stupid anti fascist article that belongs in the onion the other articles are not propaganda, just news.

Once upon a time the internet would mirror sh*t like that with or without any judgement on the authors. Its not right that it doesn't any more.

Literally no one here thinks all Russians are evil

 

[CharlieMortdecai]

that written piece makes significant leaps of logic to land its punches.

What are the leaps of logic?

 

[DesertRoo]

How the West chose capitalism over democracy in Russia — and paved the way for a kleptocratic nationalist to wage war

After the collapse of the Soviet Union, market reforms were implemented before democracy and the rule of law could be developed, with predictable results.

www.marketwatch.com

 

[ferball]

Yeah I will defend this.

There are rules if you want to interact with civilised society.
In your obvious live in bumfvckville naivaty of good ol’ boy NSW there are real world consequences for your actions that you are ignorant of.

This is one of them. If ou annoy the corporations you deal with, they will cut you off.

I refer you to the creators of ‘Fortnite’ and their interaction with Apple.

Companies, corporations such as apple, BP, Boeing, Airbus, every one actually have decided that Russia are toxic beyond belief.

Would you care to explain why Boeing, or anyone else MUST provide support to Russia?

Waiting for your fascinating demand.

Here's a Ukrainian Nazi:

 

[ferball]

He said this:

The goals of the "Social-National Assembly", that he co-founded, are "the protection of the white race by creating an anti-democratic and anti-capitalist "nationocracy" system" and the eradication of "international Zionist speculative capital".[33] In 2010, Biletsky said that it was the Ukrainian nation's mission to "lead the white races of the world in a final crusade … against Semite-led Untermenschen".[34]

However, Biletsky declares that he is not racist or antisemitic. In an interview he explained that he regards Israel and Japan as role models for the development of Ukraine.

Phew. That's alright then. I spose he didn't call anyone a goat herder.

Here is an article, from a non Russian source, about his far right battalion of neo nazis in Ukraine:

Neo-Nazis and the Far Right Are On the March in Ukraine

Five years after the Maidan uprising, anti-Semitism and fascist-inflected ultranationalism are rampant.

www.thenation.com

And another:

Ukraine's dalliance with neo-Nazi forces: What the US and NATO do not want to talk about

Azov Battalion, a neo-Nazi and white supremacist organisation, is an integral part of the National Guard of Ukraine | OpIndia News

www.opindia.com

And another:

The reality of neo-Nazis in Ukraine is far from Kremlin propaganda

The media should acknowledge the existence of neo-Nazis in Ukraine as much as it acknowledges their existence in America.

thehill.com

And another:

Azov fighters are Ukraine's greatest weapon and may be its greatest threat

The battalion's far-right volunteers' desire to 'bring the fight to Kiev' is a danger to post-conflict stability

www.theguardian.com

I dunno who publishes this:

Canada's deputy PM caught holding pro-Nazi scarf at Ukraine rally

A photo taken of Canadian Deputy Prime Minister Chrystia Freeland at a Ukraine rally over the weekend caught her holding a red and black scarf

www.washingtonexaminer.com

Here's some merch in case you're interested.

This item is unavailable - Etsy

Find the perfect handmade gift, vintage & on-trend clothes, unique jewelry, and more… lots more.

www.etsy.com

Azov Battalion | T-Shirt | Revolt Noir

Azov Battalion T-Shirt | Azov Battalion is a Ukrainian National Guard regiment, formed during the 2014 Ukrainian crisis. We will donate proceeds from the sale of all Ukraine-themed products to support Azov and Ukraine against Russian invasion. A premium quality t-shirt that feels soft and...

www.revoltnoir.com

 

[Makeshift Park]

I know its only Russians and they are all evil but civilians will use those planes, not the Russian establishment.

That isn't Boeing's problem. They don't owe Russia anything. If its such a massive concern to Russia's public safety, Putin can pull out of this pointless, sad war as soon as he likes.

I'm not sure how much time you've spent in Mother Russia Ferbs. But when I travelled from one side of that great country to the other, about 15 years ago, I met lots of amazing smart and talent people. I experienced wonderful generosity from strangers, and met a lot of young adults frustrated with the entire political establishment. On the Trans Siberian you pass many big military bases. One of the biggest surprises I had was I had no idea about the extent of the HIV crisis facing the Siberian cities. A lasting impression I have from that trip was how dreadfully sad it was that the Kremlin had committed itself to spending more than 4% of its GDP on its military, and its vast network of ageing military bases, when thousands of its young men were needlessly dying because Putin doesn't care about condoms and providing syringes to addicts. Russia doesn't have a monopoly on bad health policy, but the exorbitant amount of military spending, visible all over the country, really brought that injustice into contrast.

It's not something I want to bring up in the context of explaining or justifying the Ukraine War but I will say this. I imagine the world would be a better place if everyone in the west could understand this one thing about Russia: it sacrificed more than y'all could possibly realise in WWII, and we are the beneficiaries. Its impossible to fathom how many young brilliant people Russia lost in Stalingrad, and in the Death Camps. The Nazis were absolute monsters. More importantly, its very hard to imagine Roosevelt or Churchill committing to the Battle of Berlin with the horrific losses it entailed. Before the US showed up late, the Russians were carrying the can for the rest of us. Put Stalin's insanity to the side for a moment. Whether we like it or not, there is a degree of debt that each of us carry to the Soviet Union because of its contributions and sacrifices in fighting fascism. It'll be a tragedy if we never come to terms with the extent of that sacrifice.

And I say all this because I disagree with your take on this conflict Ferbs. This history makes what Putin's doing right now even worse for the Russian people, it doesn't make their lives better in any rational way.

 

[B4Bear]

He said this:

The goals of the "Social-National Assembly", that he co-founded, are "the protection of the white race by creating an anti-democratic and anti-capitalist "nationocracy" system" and the eradication of "international Zionist speculative capital".[33] In 2010, Biletsky said that it was the Ukrainian nation's mission to "lead the white races of the world in a final crusade … against Semite-led Untermenschen".[34]

However, Biletsky declares that he is not racist or antisemitic. In an interview he explained that he regards Israel and Japan as role models for the development of Ukraine.

Phew. That's alright then. I spose he didn't call anyone a goat herder.

Here is an article, from a non Russian source, about his far right battalion of neo nazis in Ukraine:

Neo-Nazis and the Far Right Are On the March in Ukraine

Five years after the Maidan uprising, anti-Semitism and fascist-inflected ultranationalism are rampant.

www.thenation.com

And another:

Ukraine's dalliance with neo-Nazi forces: What the US and NATO do not want to talk about

Azov Battalion, a neo-Nazi and white supremacist organisation, is an integral part of the National Guard of Ukraine | OpIndia News

www.opindia.com

And another:

The reality of neo-Nazis in Ukraine is far from Kremlin propaganda

The media should acknowledge the existence of neo-Nazis in Ukraine as much as it acknowledges their existence in America.

thehill.com

And another:

Azov fighters are Ukraine's greatest weapon and may be its greatest threat

The battalion's far-right volunteers' desire to 'bring the fight to Kiev' is a danger to post-conflict stability

www.theguardian.com

I dunno who publishes this:

Canada's deputy PM caught holding pro-Nazi scarf at Ukraine rally

A photo taken of Canadian Deputy Prime Minister Chrystia Freeland at a Ukraine rally over the weekend caught her holding a red and black scarf

www.washingtonexaminer.com

Here's some merch in case you're interested.

This item is unavailable - Etsy

Find the perfect handmade gift, vintage & on-trend clothes, unique jewelry, and more… lots more.

www.etsy.com

Azov Battalion | T-Shirt | Revolt Noir

Azov Battalion T-Shirt | Azov Battalion is a Ukrainian National Guard regiment, formed during the 2014 Ukrainian crisis. We will donate proceeds from the sale of all Ukraine-themed products to support Azov and Ukraine against Russian invasion. A premium quality t-shirt that feels soft and...

www.revoltnoir.com

Just ****ing wow. You really have dug a hole and decided that your line in the sand with the war criminals will s where you want to plant your flag.

After all one dude’s statements are worth a regimental barrage of fuel air bombs that destroy a grid square of civilians.

Make no mistake, you sir, are a piece of self righteous motherfvcking piece of shit; who would happily see thw world burn if you thought you were in the moral right.

 

[ferball]

See all that Nazi stuff I posted?

Putin's no better. All thru the 00s he courted far right groups in Russia and promoted racist violence. Pushing Aleksander Durgin's nationalist fascism.

But this is far from as black and white and everyone says and the facts are that for nearly 20 years he has said Ukraine in NATO is a line in the sand and crossing it means war. You can pretend all you like that it didn't happen but it did. And just we went "okay" and pushed him to it. Now there is a war.

And like it or not neo nazis are fighting for Ukraine.

I've never been to Russia but my missus is into music and has been online mates with lot of obscure Belorussian, Russian and Ukrainian musos for over a decade. They hate their rulers and I've been hearing about the shit they do for years. None of them were any good except maybe Yulia Tymoshenko and she came from a colour revolution.

She is cursing Putin like a trooper and has been for days.

 

[ferball]

Just ******* wow. You really have dug a hole and decided that your line in the sand with the war criminals will s where you want to plant your flag.

After all one dude’s statements are worth a regimental barrage of fuel air bombs that destroy a grid square of civilians.

Make no mistake, you sir, are a piece of self righteous motherfvcking piece of sh*t; who would happily see thw world burn if you thought you were in the moral right.

He's the leader of the Azov Battalion. Ukraine's best anti Russian militia.

You call me a piece of shit because you want me to get into bed with Neo Nazis and I won't.

You're just as bad as them. No doubt if you had the opportunity you'd shut me up with a bullet.

 

[B4Bear]

He's the leader of the Azov Battalion. Ukraine's best anti Russian militia.

You call me a piece of sh*t because you want me to get into bed with Neo Nazis and I won't.

You're just as bad as them. No doubt if you had the opportunity you'd shut me up with a bullet.

Kill you?

Not at all, but happy to call you neo-fascist self righteousness out for what it is.

 

[Val Keating]

They can’t beat this. Real backs against the wall type stuff.

 

[Val Keating]

Worth a follow. His timeline is immense. https://twitter.com/jake_hanrahan?s=21

 

[Sopwiths North]

 

[Sopwiths North]

 

[Sopwiths North]

 

[Tectonic]

 

[B4Bear]

This is a web catch of the announcement by Russia of their new world order after taking over Ukraine. When it did not happen overnight, they removed this announcement. This beyond all else serves as a warning to the world of Putin's real intentions.

Russia restores its unity – the tragedy of 1991, this terrible catastrophe of our history, its unnatural dislocation, has been overcome. Yes, at a high price, yes, through the tragic events of the actual civil war, because now brothers are still shooting at each other, separated by belonging to the Russian and Ukrainian armies – but Ukraine as there will be no more anti-Russia. Russia is restoring its historical fullness by gathering the Russian world, the Russian people together – in all its totality of Great Russians, Belarusians and Little Russians. If we had abandoned this, if we had allowed the temporary division to take hold for centuries, we would not only have betrayed the memory of our ancestors, but we would have been cursed by our descendants for allowing the disintegration of the Russian land.

Vladimir Putin took upon himself, without a drop of exaggeration, historical responsibility, deciding not to leave the solution of the Ukrainian question to future generations. After all, the need to solve it would always remain the main problem for Russia – for two key reasons. And the issue of national security, that is, the creation of an anti-Russia from Ukraine and an outpost for the pressure of the West on us, is only the second most important among them.

The first would always be the complex of a divided people, a complex of national humiliation – when the Russian house first lost part of its foundation (Kiev), and then had to accept the existence of two states of not one, but two peoples. That is, either to abandon their history, agreeing with the insane versions that "only Ukraine is the real Rus", or to impotently gnash their teeth, remembering the times when "we lost Ukraine". To return Ukraine, that is, to turn it back to Russia, with each decade would be more and more difficult – recoding, de-Russification of Russians and turning against Russian Little Russians-Ukrainians, would gain momentum. And if the full geopolitical and military control of the West over Ukraine is consolidated, its return to Russia would become completely impossible – it would have to fight for it with the Atlantic bloc.

Now this problem does not exist – Ukraine has returned to Russia. This does not mean that its statehood will be liquidated, but it will be restructured, re-established and returned to its natural state part of the Russian world. Within what borders, in what form the union with Russia will be fixed (through CSTO and Eurasian Union or Union State Russia and Belarus)? This will be decided after the end is put to the history of Ukraine as an anti-Russia. In any case, the period of split of the Russian people is coming to an end.

And here begins the second dimension of the coming new era – it concerns Russia's relations with the West. Not even Russia, but the Russian world, that is, three states, Russia, Belarus and Ukraine, acting geopolitically as a single whole. These relations have entered a new stage – the West sees Russia's return to its historical borders in Europe. And he loudly resents this, although deep down he must admit to himself that it could not have been otherwise.

Is there anyone in the old European capitals, in Paris and Berlin, seriously believed that Moscow will refuse Kiev? That Russians will forever be a divided people? And at the same time, when Europe is uniting, when the German and French elites are trying to seize control over European integration from the Anglo-Saxons and assemble a united Europe? Forgetting that the unification of Europe became possible only through unification Germany, which happened by Russian good (albeit not very clever) will. To swing after that also on Russian lands is the height not even of ingratitude, but of geopolitical stupidity. The West as a whole, and even more so Europe individually, did not have the strength to keep in its sphere of influence, and even more so to take Ukraine for itself. Not to understand this, one had to be just geopolitical fools.

More precisely, there was only one option: to bet on the further collapse of Russia, that is, the Russian Federation. But the fact that it didn't work should have been clear twenty years ago. And fifteen years ago, after Putin's Munich speech, even a deaf person could hear that Russia was returning.

Now the West is trying to punish Russia for the fact that it returned, for not justifying its plans to profit at its expense, for not allowing the expansion of Western space to the east. In seeking to punish us, the West thinks that relations with it are of vital importance to us. But this is no longer the case – the world has changed, and this is well understood not only by Europeans, but also by the Anglo-Saxons who rule the West. No Western pressure on Russia will lead to anything. The losses from the escalation of confrontation will be on both sides, but Russia is ready for them morally and geopolitically. But for the West itself, an increase in the degree of confrontation carries huge costs – and the main ones are not economic at all.

Europe, as part of the West, wanted autonomy – the German project of European integration makes no strategic sense while maintaining Anglo-Saxon ideological, military and geopolitical control over the Old World. And it cannot be successful, because the Anglo-Saxons need a controlled Europe. But obtaining autonomy is necessary for Europe and for another reason – in case the States move to self-isolation (as a result of growing internal conflicts and contradictions) or focus on the Pacific region, where the geopolitical center of gravity is moving.

But the confrontation with Russia, in which the Anglo-Saxons are dragging Europe, deprives Europeans of even a chance of independence – not to mention the fact that in the same way they are trying to impose a break with Europe. China. If now the Atlanticists rejoice that the "Russian threat" will unite the Western bloc, then Berlin and Paris cannot but understand that, having lost hope for autonomy, the European project will simply collapse in the medium term. That is why independent-minded Europeans are now completely uninterested in building a new Iron Curtain on their eastern borders – realizing that it will turn into a corral for Europe. Whose century (or rather half a millennium) of global leadership is over anyway – but various options for its future are still possible.

Because the construction of a new world order – and this is the third dimension of current events – is accelerating, and its contours are becoming more and more clearly visible through the sprawling veil of Anglo-Saxon globalization. The multipolar world has finally become a reality – the operation in Ukraine is not able to rally anyone but the West against Russia. Because the rest of the world perfectly sees and understands that this is a conflict between Russia and the West, this is a response to the geopolitical expansion of the Atlanticists, this is Russia's return of its historical space and its place in the world.

China and India, Latin America and Africa, the islamic world and Southeast Asia No one believes that the West rules the world order, much less sets the rules of the game. Russia has not just challenged the West – it has shown that the era of Western global domination can be considered completely and finally over. The new world will be built by all civilizations and centers of power, of course, together with the West (united or not) – but not on its terms and not according to its rules."

Наступление России и нового мира

Новый мир рождается на наших глазах. Военная операция России на Украине открыла новую эпоху — причем сразу в трех измерениях. И конечно, в четвертом,... РИА Новости, 26.02.2022

web.archive.org

For those of you out there that think this is some anti-NATO thing, the above shows what the actual intentions are.

 

[Intothewind]

This is a web catch of the announcement by Russia of their new world order after taking over Ukraine. When it did not happen overnight, they removed this announcement. This beyond all else serves as a warning to the world of Putin's real intentions.

Russia restores its unity – the tragedy of 1991, this terrible catastrophe of our history, its unnatural dislocation, has been overcome. Yes, at a high price, yes, through the tragic events of the actual civil war, because now brothers are still shooting at each other, separated by belonging to the Russian and Ukrainian armies – but Ukraine as there will be no more anti-Russia. Russia is restoring its historical fullness by gathering the Russian world, the Russian people together – in all its totality of Great Russians, Belarusians and Little Russians. If we had abandoned this, if we had allowed the temporary division to take hold for centuries, we would not only have betrayed the memory of our ancestors, but we would have been cursed by our descendants for allowing the disintegration of the Russian land.

Vladimir Putin took upon himself, without a drop of exaggeration, historical responsibility, deciding not to leave the solution of the Ukrainian question to future generations. After all, the need to solve it would always remain the main problem for Russia – for two key reasons. And the issue of national security, that is, the creation of an anti-Russia from Ukraine and an outpost for the pressure of the West on us, is only the second most important among them.

The first would always be the complex of a divided people, a complex of national humiliation – when the Russian house first lost part of its foundation (Kiev), and then had to accept the existence of two states of not one, but two peoples. That is, either to abandon their history, agreeing with the insane versions that "only Ukraine is the real Rus", or to impotently gnash their teeth, remembering the times when "we lost Ukraine". To return Ukraine, that is, to turn it back to Russia, with each decade would be more and more difficult – recoding, de-Russification of Russians and turning against Russian Little Russians-Ukrainians, would gain momentum. And if the full geopolitical and military control of the West over Ukraine is consolidated, its return to Russia would become completely impossible – it would have to fight for it with the Atlantic bloc.

Now this problem does not exist – Ukraine has returned to Russia. This does not mean that its statehood will be liquidated, but it will be restructured, re-established and returned to its natural state part of the Russian world. Within what borders, in what form the union with Russia will be fixed (through CSTO and Eurasian Union or Union State Russia and Belarus)? This will be decided after the end is put to the history of Ukraine as an anti-Russia. In any case, the period of split of the Russian people is coming to an end.

And here begins the second dimension of the coming new era – it concerns Russia's relations with the West. Not even Russia, but the Russian world, that is, three states, Russia, Belarus and Ukraine, acting geopolitically as a single whole. These relations have entered a new stage – the West sees Russia's return to its historical borders in Europe. And he loudly resents this, although deep down he must admit to himself that it could not have been otherwise.

Is there anyone in the old European capitals, in Paris and Berlin, seriously believed that Moscow will refuse Kiev? That Russians will forever be a divided people? And at the same time, when Europe is uniting, when the German and French elites are trying to seize control over European integration from the Anglo-Saxons and assemble a united Europe? Forgetting that the unification of Europe became possible only through unification Germany, which happened by Russian good (albeit not very clever) will. To swing after that also on Russian lands is the height not even of ingratitude, but of geopolitical stupidity. The West as a whole, and even more so Europe individually, did not have the strength to keep in its sphere of influence, and even more so to take Ukraine for itself. Not to understand this, one had to be just geopolitical fools.

More precisely, there was only one option: to bet on the further collapse of Russia, that is, the Russian Federation. But the fact that it didn't work should have been clear twenty years ago. And fifteen years ago, after Putin's Munich speech, even a deaf person could hear that Russia was returning.

Now the West is trying to punish Russia for the fact that it returned, for not justifying its plans to profit at its expense, for not allowing the expansion of Western space to the east. In seeking to punish us, the West thinks that relations with it are of vital importance to us. But this is no longer the case – the world has changed, and this is well understood not only by Europeans, but also by the Anglo-Saxons who rule the West. No Western pressure on Russia will lead to anything. The losses from the escalation of confrontation will be on both sides, but Russia is ready for them morally and geopolitically. But for the West itself, an increase in the degree of confrontation carries huge costs – and the main ones are not economic at all.

Europe, as part of the West, wanted autonomy – the German project of European integration makes no strategic sense while maintaining Anglo-Saxon ideological, military and geopolitical control over the Old World. And it cannot be successful, because the Anglo-Saxons need a controlled Europe. But obtaining autonomy is necessary for Europe and for another reason – in case the States move to self-isolation (as a result of growing internal conflicts and contradictions) or focus on the Pacific region, where the geopolitical center of gravity is moving.

But the confrontation with Russia, in which the Anglo-Saxons are dragging Europe, deprives Europeans of even a chance of independence – not to mention the fact that in the same way they are trying to impose a break with Europe. China. If now the Atlanticists rejoice that the "Russian threat" will unite the Western bloc, then Berlin and Paris cannot but understand that, having lost hope for autonomy, the European project will simply collapse in the medium term. That is why independent-minded Europeans are now completely uninterested in building a new Iron Curtain on their eastern borders – realizing that it will turn into a corral for Europe. Whose century (or rather half a millennium) of global leadership is over anyway – but various options for its future are still possible.

Because the construction of a new world order – and this is the third dimension of current events – is accelerating, and its contours are becoming more and more clearly visible through the sprawling veil of Anglo-Saxon globalization. The multipolar world has finally become a reality – the operation in Ukraine is not able to rally anyone but the West against Russia. Because the rest of the world perfectly sees and understands that this is a conflict between Russia and the West, this is a response to the geopolitical expansion of the Atlanticists, this is Russia's return of its historical space and its place in the world.

China and India, Latin America and Africa, the islamic world and Southeast Asia No one believes that the West rules the world order, much less sets the rules of the game. Russia has not just challenged the West – it has shown that the era of Western global domination can be considered completely and finally over. The new world will be built by all civilizations and centers of power, of course, together with the West (united or not) – but not on its terms and not according to its rules."

Наступление России и нового мира

Новый мир рождается на наших глазах. Военная операция России на Украине открыла новую эпоху — причем сразу в трех измерениях. И конечно, в четвертом,... РИА Новости, 26.02.2022

web.archive.org

For those of you out there that think this is some anti-NATO thing, the above shows what the actual intentions are.

We knew all that from Rocky IV

 

[Makeshift Park]

There’s a good examination of the aerial dimension to this war here:

 

[Val Keating]

This is a web catch of the announcement by Russia of their new world order after taking over Ukraine. When it did not happen overnight, they removed this announcement. This beyond all else serves as a warning to the world of Putin's real intentions.

Russia restores its unity – the tragedy of 1991, this terrible catastrophe of our history, its unnatural dislocation, has been overcome. Yes, at a high price, yes, through the tragic events of the actual civil war, because now brothers are still shooting at each other, separated by belonging to the Russian and Ukrainian armies – but Ukraine as there will be no more anti-Russia. Russia is restoring its historical fullness by gathering the Russian world, the Russian people together – in all its totality of Great Russians, Belarusians and Little Russians. If we had abandoned this, if we had allowed the temporary division to take hold for centuries, we would not only have betrayed the memory of our ancestors, but we would have been cursed by our descendants for allowing the disintegration of the Russian land.

Vladimir Putin took upon himself, without a drop of exaggeration, historical responsibility, deciding not to leave the solution of the Ukrainian question to future generations. After all, the need to solve it would always remain the main problem for Russia – for two key reasons. And the issue of national security, that is, the creation of an anti-Russia from Ukraine and an outpost for the pressure of the West on us, is only the second most important among them.

The first would always be the complex of a divided people, a complex of national humiliation – when the Russian house first lost part of its foundation (Kiev), and then had to accept the existence of two states of not one, but two peoples. That is, either to abandon their history, agreeing with the insane versions that "only Ukraine is the real Rus", or to impotently gnash their teeth, remembering the times when "we lost Ukraine". To return Ukraine, that is, to turn it back to Russia, with each decade would be more and more difficult – recoding, de-Russification of Russians and turning against Russian Little Russians-Ukrainians, would gain momentum. And if the full geopolitical and military control of the West over Ukraine is consolidated, its return to Russia would become completely impossible – it would have to fight for it with the Atlantic bloc.

Now this problem does not exist – Ukraine has returned to Russia. This does not mean that its statehood will be liquidated, but it will be restructured, re-established and returned to its natural state part of the Russian world. Within what borders, in what form the union with Russia will be fixed (through CSTO and Eurasian Union or Union State Russia and Belarus)? This will be decided after the end is put to the history of Ukraine as an anti-Russia. In any case, the period of split of the Russian people is coming to an end.

And here begins the second dimension of the coming new era – it concerns Russia's relations with the West. Not even Russia, but the Russian world, that is, three states, Russia, Belarus and Ukraine, acting geopolitically as a single whole. These relations have entered a new stage – the West sees Russia's return to its historical borders in Europe. And he loudly resents this, although deep down he must admit to himself that it could not have been otherwise.

Is there anyone in the old European capitals, in Paris and Berlin, seriously believed that Moscow will refuse Kiev? That Russians will forever be a divided people? And at the same time, when Europe is uniting, when the German and French elites are trying to seize control over European integration from the Anglo-Saxons and assemble a united Europe? Forgetting that the unification of Europe became possible only through unification Germany, which happened by Russian good (albeit not very clever) will. To swing after that also on Russian lands is the height not even of ingratitude, but of geopolitical stupidity. The West as a whole, and even more so Europe individually, did not have the strength to keep in its sphere of influence, and even more so to take Ukraine for itself. Not to understand this, one had to be just geopolitical fools.

More precisely, there was only one option: to bet on the further collapse of Russia, that is, the Russian Federation. But the fact that it didn't work should have been clear twenty years ago. And fifteen years ago, after Putin's Munich speech, even a deaf person could hear that Russia was returning.

Now the West is trying to punish Russia for the fact that it returned, for not justifying its plans to profit at its expense, for not allowing the expansion of Western space to the east. In seeking to punish us, the West thinks that relations with it are of vital importance to us. But this is no longer the case – the world has changed, and this is well understood not only by Europeans, but also by the Anglo-Saxons who rule the West. No Western pressure on Russia will lead to anything. The losses from the escalation of confrontation will be on both sides, but Russia is ready for them morally and geopolitically. But for the West itself, an increase in the degree of confrontation carries huge costs – and the main ones are not economic at all.

Europe, as part of the West, wanted autonomy – the German project of European integration makes no strategic sense while maintaining Anglo-Saxon ideological, military and geopolitical control over the Old World. And it cannot be successful, because the Anglo-Saxons need a controlled Europe. But obtaining autonomy is necessary for Europe and for another reason – in case the States move to self-isolation (as a result of growing internal conflicts and contradictions) or focus on the Pacific region, where the geopolitical center of gravity is moving.

But the confrontation with Russia, in which the Anglo-Saxons are dragging Europe, deprives Europeans of even a chance of independence – not to mention the fact that in the same way they are trying to impose a break with Europe. China. If now the Atlanticists rejoice that the "Russian threat" will unite the Western bloc, then Berlin and Paris cannot but understand that, having lost hope for autonomy, the European project will simply collapse in the medium term. That is why independent-minded Europeans are now completely uninterested in building a new Iron Curtain on their eastern borders – realizing that it will turn into a corral for Europe. Whose century (or rather half a millennium) of global leadership is over anyway – but various options for its future are still possible.

Because the construction of a new world order – and this is the third dimension of current events – is accelerating, and its contours are becoming more and more clearly visible through the sprawling veil of Anglo-Saxon globalization. The multipolar world has finally become a reality – the operation in Ukraine is not able to rally anyone but the West against Russia. Because the rest of the world perfectly sees and understands that this is a conflict between Russia and the West, this is a response to the geopolitical expansion of the Atlanticists, this is Russia's return of its historical space and its place in the world.

China and India, Latin America and Africa, the islamic world and Southeast Asia No one believes that the West rules the world order, much less sets the rules of the game. Russia has not just challenged the West – it has shown that the era of Western global domination can be considered completely and finally over. The new world will be built by all civilizations and centers of power, of course, together with the West (united or not) – but not on its terms and not according to its rules."

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For those of you out there that think this is some anti-NATO thing, the above shows what the actual intentions are.

Is that real? How do you know if it’s real?

 

[B4Bear]

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Is that real? How do you know if it’s real?

Was taken from an archived copy of a Russian site before it was taken down. I am a member of a 'military' group where we have a lot of discussions on what is going on, what is real and what looks fake. The group has a lot of different NATO people in it who deal with this type of thing all the time, and they are not easily fooled.

If it is real, then it pretty much invalidates the entire 'defensive' mindset Putin's water carriers have been pushing.

If it is fake, and the general consensus is that it is not fake, then it is a brilliant piece of Information Operations (I/O).

I am guessing personal biases will come into effect here. I think it is most likely real, the signs have been there for years, we just ignored them.

 

[Val Keating]

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Was taken from an archived copy of a Russian site before it was taken down. I am a member of a 'military' group where we have a lot of discussions on what is going on, what is real and what looks fake. The group has a lot of different NATO people in it who deal with this type of thing all the time, and they are not easily fooled.

If it is real, then it pretty much invalidates the entire 'defensive' mindset Putin's water carriers have been pushing.

If it is fake, and the general consensus is that it is not fake, then it is a brilliant piece of Information Operations (I/O).

I am guessing personal biases will come into effect here. I think it is most likely real, the signs have been there for years, we just ignored them.

It reads like real conspiracy theory whack job type stuff. If that’s official they’ve lost the plot.