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It certainly didn't finish at midnight Perth time, but it was definitely a night game so likely a midnight finish Eastern Standard Time.
Yeah, I reckon it started at 7pm Perth time, 9pm AEST, but at some point it's been transposed to be 9pm Perth time and no-one's realised how farcical that sounds. Just don't have any proof. Anyway...
 

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Yeah, I reckon it started at 7pm Perth time, 9pm AEST, but at some point it's been transposed to be 9pm Perth time and no-one's realised how farcical that sounds. Just don't have any proof. Anyway...
Here's the TV guide from that night showing a 10:15pm (!) start in Melbourne - plus an interesting post-match report. Gee - a comfortable 30 point win over in the west, yet journalists laying the boots in about us being too slow :rolleyes:

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Here's the TV guide from that night showing a 10:15pm (!) start in Melbourne - plus an interesting post-match report. Gee - a comfortable 30 point win over in the west, yet journalists laying the boots in about us being too slow :rolleyes:

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I’m still haunted by the sounds of the Freo Heave Ho crap and the sight of inflatable anchors during the pregame stuff. The Freo fans were excellent though. Very welcoming to us and happy to chat.
 

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1910---SENSATION, SUCCESS & SCANDAL





BACKGROUND.



North were coming off some hard times as the year 1910 dawned. From 1901-06 they had finished in the top three, winning two premierships and being runners up once. But in 1907, with internal dissensions at the club affecting their performance, they finished second bottom with just two wins. It was then that they made their abortive attempt to get into the VFL, amalgamating with West Melbourne for that purpose. Both teams were expelled.

North re-formed under a new committee and were re-admitted at the beginning of 1908. But the late admission left the team unprepared, lacking training and without several of their players and they won only four games. The changes began in 1909 under dynamic new secretary Andy Curran. All but two of the team were dismissed, Hardy and Speakman being the survivors. Several good players were recruited, including one Syd Barker, and former premiership captain “Paddy” Noonan returned from a stint with Williamstown to lead the side and lend his experience.


SENSATIONAL PICK-UPS



As the season neared its beginning, VFL club Carlton found itself in turmoil. Their successful coach Jack Worrell had been pressured to resign after a player revolt. Some players, however, were supportive of him and would not play at Carlton without him. Andy Curran saw an opportunity and pounced, signing four of Carlton’s top players—George (Mallee) Johnson, Frank (Silver) Caine, Fred Jinks and Charles Hammond. After Carlton refused to clear them, all four appealed to the VFL and obtained clearances. None of the four would be at North longer than two seasons, but their impact would be felt in 1910 and greatly strengthen North. Besides these four, North also picked up Richmond captain J. Lawson and G.Kyme from Launceston. More about him later.
It was probably due to “Mallee” Johnson that North changed their jumpers to all navy blue with a white “N.M.” monogram Johnson took over as coach. Last season’s coach Paddy Noonan found a place on the committee.

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TO BE CONTINUED.............
 

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K7 delivers again.

This was purportedly a huge coup at the time, in a similiar vein to Davis, Wade, Rantall in the 70's.
 

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1910 (Continued)



A SUCCESSFUL SEASON



The season began well for North. There were a couple of narrow escapes, but after 15 rounds North were top of the table with 14 wins and a draw (against Essendon in Round 8). The “big four” were making their presence felt, “Mallee" Johnson leading the team well, and Caine the VFA’s leading goalkicker. But all of North’s other players were doing well—players from the previous season and the other new recruits.

North’s first loss came in Round 16 when Brunswick—the only team they would meet in the finals—came from behind to win by a solitary point. Then, after kicking a then record score against lowly Preston in Round 17, they came to grief against Essendon in Round 18 by 23 points. Essendon had also had a good season and the win put them level on points with North, who had a better percentage. Both were a game and a half clear of third placed Brunswick, who North would meet in a semi final.



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The second semi-final was an exciting match with Brunswick winning by a goal. Caine had an off day missing several marks and having only one shot at goal-which missed. So much was said about his poor performance that the club committee questioned him, but were satisfied with his explanation. The other three imports played well, as did Hardy, Speakman, Gibney, Hopkins, Homan and Elliott. Brunswick went on to defeat first semi-final winner Essendon in the final the following week and North, as minor premier, exercised their right to challenge them to a Grand Final.

The premiership decider was affected by a strong north wind, as were most matches at Arden St. But after quarter time North controlled the game by and large, winning comfortably by 29 points. Caine redeemed himself with five goals. Barker, Hammond and Hardy were North’s best. Pemberton also did well in keeping Brunswick danger man Chase quiet. The newly created Wolff-Schnapps trophy was awarded to the winners.
North had their third flag.


TO BE CONCLUDED..............
 

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I thought I heard on the radio today, but can't be sure as I only heard it very briefly, something about the AFL possibly adding VFL Premierships to the list of AFL Club Premierships. If this was the case, where would that leave us?
 

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I thought I heard on the radio today, but can't be sure as I only heard it very briefly, something about the AFL possibly adding VFL Premierships to the list of AFL Club Premierships. If this was the case, where would that leave us?

Unchanged. The proposal is to include premierships won from 1870 to 1896. North never won anything during this period. Carlton,Geelong and South Melbourne would be the biggest beheficiaries.
 
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1910 ..CONCLUDED




THE BRIBERY SCANDAL



On the day of the semi-final match against Brunswick, the North Melbourne committee received a report that North player Charles Hopkins had been approached some days before by a Brunswick player and immediately summoned Hopkins to appear before them. Hopkins admitted that he had been stopped in the street some ten days before by a Brunswick player, who he refused to identify, with an offer of ten pounds to “run stiff” in the match and induce another North player to do the same. He had not given the player a direct answer and was approached again after the Essendon-Prahran semi-final. The man reaffirmed that he could get a “tenner”. Again Hopkins did not give a definite reply and another appointment was made, which Hopkins did not keep. By now it was almost time for the match to start, and the committee told Hopkins that they knew all about it and he had better go out and “play for his life”. Hopkins was one of the best players on the day.

After the match, the committee met again, inviting VFA secretary T.J.Evans to attend (unofficially). Hopkins repeated his statement and, under pressure, revealed the name of the Brunswick player. Mr Evans said he would arrange a meeting of the VFA executive when he was officially advised of the matter. North secretary Andy Curran did so, by letter, the next day. Brunswick, meanwhile, conducted their own investigation with all their players, questioning them closely and were satisfied that nothing untoward had occurred.

The VFA convened a meeting on Friday 30th September, the night before the Final between Essendon and Brunswick. Both club secretaries were present as well as Hopkins and the Brunswick player in question—identified as George Kyme. Kyme had been recruited by North at the start of the season, but managed only one game before transferring to Brunswick after Round 6 just in time to line up against his old club in Round 7.

Hopkins repeated his story as outlined earlier, and another North player, Charles Hardy, and his brother, George Hardy, said that Hopkins had been called aside by Kyme after the football match they had attended. Kyme denied making any offer and that nothing he had said to Hopkins could be construed as such. He claimed that Hopkins had told him that four of his teammates wanted to get even with the Carlton men for not trying in the Essendon game. He replied to Hopkins that he had never done anything like that in his life. He later told Brunswick club officials that four North players could be bought, but was told they would have nothing to do with that sort of business. When he called Hopkins over after the football match, it was to tell him that the club secretary would have nothing to do with his suggestion.

After the committee considered the matter in private for about twenty minutes, the chairman announced that both players would be disqualified for life, saying that their conduct was not in the interest of VFA football. North waas satisfied with the decision. Brunswick were not,Kyme protesting his innocence. Neither player could play in the Grand Final the following week.

The case was reviewed, on appeal, in June 1911 and the sentences were commuted to one year. Both players would return to their respective clubs in 1912. Hopkins would play in North’s 1914 premiership side.
 

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So I am trying to figure out what Ron Barassi did that was different to Collingwood after the drawn 1977 Grand Final? I looked through 'The Coach' but there is not much in it. I remember that when the last 2010 Drawn GF occurred many media referred to Barass's attitude to the Replay, but Google is not helping.

Marstermind ?
 

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Ok, found the answer, he didnt whip them on the track.

Hafey did.

It was in the Snhinboners Book.
More or less. He also spoke to the wives and girlfriends asking for him to have their men for another week. He saw the week as a great opportunity given they were bloody awful in the draw, nearly won it anyway and then blew it. All positive.

In contrast, many Collingwood people blame Hafey for losing as he trained them harder than ever.
 

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