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I think you're right; the rule changes are flowing against their list management decisions and you'd think the tension between the two will break at some point
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The higher the cliff the bigger the fall
I do think they are playing bit of possum. Come business end of the season they'll start to play faster. They just can't sustain it the whole season. Still 2 big guns to come back in.
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Jeff can get fked, he fked over my dads friend Tyrone Vickery when he was suicidal
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Yep Jeff kicked him out when he came to him suicidal then another close friend of my dad Jake king had to step in to help Tyrone with a business deal or something along those lines. Cant quite remember what happened
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Vickery, ex-AFL player King arrested as part of extortion investigation
Hawthorn player Tyrone Vickery and ex-AFL player Jake King are arrested as part of an extortion investigation.
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I’d also try him forward (when others return) but his goal kicking wasn’t great in the past
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The bigger question is why don’t we do the same from kick outs instead of going short and inviting pressure that costs a goal almost every time
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Sydney boss Andrew Pridham says Victorian clubs bleating about the Swans’ academy system should look at their own generous AFL concessions first.
Sydney chairman Andrew Pridham has lashed out at critics of the club’s academy system, adamant the league would have to disband the father-son system before it watered down the Swans’ talent pathway.
Pridham told the Herald Sun Victorian clubs bleating about Sydney’s development were always silent about the huge advantages of their own father-sons and next generation academies.
No one wanted Sam Wicks, so the Swans swooped. Picture: AFL Photos/Getty Images
He said Geelong and Collingwood had accepted huge concessions regarding the draft and cost of living without complaint from rival sides.
Sydney must bid for their players in the same way as the father-son system, having injected $10 million into their own academy over 11 years.
The Swans have only drafted or rookied 13 of the 3000 players to go through that system, with Pridham saying the criticism was tired and predictable.
“Collingwood have five father-sons and another on the way and two next generation academy picks,” he told the Herald Sun.
“We have outrageously rookied a kid like Sam Wicks who no one else picked. Go figure. As for Geelong if you talk about advantages, my god they have (Patrick) Dangerfield, Jeremy Cameron, (Gary) Rohan, (Isaac) Smith, they are in a town that houses the Geelong Falcons. They have players keen to play there and it’s so cheap to live there. They are spending 300 bucks a week to live in an eight-bedroom house. The bottom line is it has never been a level playing field.
“So anyone who is attacking us and wants to see anything happen to the academies, you could say goodbye to the father-son system.”
Geelong coach Chris Scott said on Monday night he supported generating young talent in NSW but said the question was how much Sydney paid in draft value.
“If we look through it logically, a lot of the population is in Sydney and a lot of the talent is there and if they can harness the sporting talent – I think most of us would know who played when we were in Year 10 or 11, the best cricketers were also the best footy players, who are best rugby players,” he said.
“I think the key question for the competition is ‘what price do they pay?’’
The Swans secured best mates Braeden Campbell (pick 6) and Errol Gulden (pick 32) as academy selections this year, with Gulden’s father saying he wouldn’t be playing AFL if not for the academy.
Pridham said the only reason the academy system was introduced a decade ago was because there were barely any players being produced from out of NSW.
Carlton’s Luke Parks made his AFL debut this week having graduated from the Sydney academy.
“No kids were getting drafted from NSW or Queensland. So you have got to develop talent. They go into the draft and people can pick them up and if they don’t, they forever hold your peace,” he said.
“We have 780 kids in the academy. 480 are boys and the rest are girls. We have had 3000 kids through academies. And less than half of one per cent make their way to the AFL. So the rest go to local leagues, they umpire, some go to play SANFL or WAFL. Everyone has an academy and we actually do something for our kids.
“Strategically it’s pretty important and there was noise about it which is why the AFL brought in a bidding system. We have had some very limited success in winning three games and then clubs start throwing stones.
“The thing that has always frustrated me is that if you look at things through a Victorian lens, if it is seen to have advantaged non-Victorian clubs it’s an unfair advantage.
“If it benefits a club like Geelong or Collingwood, it’s tradition. Like the father-son system.”
AFL chief executive Gillon McLachlan backed the northern academies system last month.
“The debate in Victoria has been the price you pay. I think the success of the academies is there for everyone to see.”
Sydney chairman Andrew Pridham has lashed out at critics of the club’s academy system, adamant the league would have to disband the father-son system before it watered down the Swans’ talent pathway.
Pridham told the Herald Sun Victorian clubs bleating about Sydney’s development were always silent about the huge advantages of their own father-sons and next generation academies.
No one wanted Sam Wicks, so the Swans swooped. Picture: AFL Photos/Getty Images
He said Geelong and Collingwood had accepted huge concessions regarding the draft and cost of living without complaint from rival sides.
Sydney must bid for their players in the same way as the father-son system, having injected $10 million into their own academy over 11 years.
The Swans have only drafted or rookied 13 of the 3000 players to go through that system, with Pridham saying the criticism was tired and predictable.
“Collingwood have five father-sons and another on the way and two next generation academy picks,” he told the Herald Sun.
“We have outrageously rookied a kid like Sam Wicks who no one else picked. Go figure. As for Geelong if you talk about advantages, my god they have (Patrick) Dangerfield, Jeremy Cameron, (Gary) Rohan, (Isaac) Smith, they are in a town that houses the Geelong Falcons. They have players keen to play there and it’s so cheap to live there. They are spending 300 bucks a week to live in an eight-bedroom house. The bottom line is it has never been a level playing field.
“So anyone who is attacking us and wants to see anything happen to the academies, you could say goodbye to the father-son system.”
Geelong coach Chris Scott said on Monday night he supported generating young talent in NSW but said the question was how much Sydney paid in draft value.
“If we look through it logically, a lot of the population is in Sydney and a lot of the talent is there and if they can harness the sporting talent – I think most of us would know who played when we were in Year 10 or 11, the best cricketers were also the best footy players, who are best rugby players,” he said.
“I think the key question for the competition is ‘what price do they pay?’’
The Swans secured best mates Braeden Campbell (pick 6) and Errol Gulden (pick 32) as academy selections this year, with Gulden’s father saying he wouldn’t be playing AFL if not for the academy.
Pridham said the only reason the academy system was introduced a decade ago was because there were barely any players being produced from out of NSW.
Carlton’s Luke Parks made his AFL debut this week having graduated from the Sydney academy.
“No kids were getting drafted from NSW or Queensland. So you have got to develop talent. They go into the draft and people can pick them up and if they don’t, they forever hold your peace,” he said.
“We have 780 kids in the academy. 480 are boys and the rest are girls. We have had 3000 kids through academies. And less than half of one per cent make their way to the AFL. So the rest go to local leagues, they umpire, some go to play SANFL or WAFL. Everyone has an academy and we actually do something for our kids.
“Strategically it’s pretty important and there was noise about it which is why the AFL brought in a bidding system. We have had some very limited success in winning three games and then clubs start throwing stones.
“The thing that has always frustrated me is that if you look at things through a Victorian lens, if it is seen to have advantaged non-Victorian clubs it’s an unfair advantage.
“If it benefits a club like Geelong or Collingwood, it’s tradition. Like the father-son system.”
AFL chief executive Gillon McLachlan backed the northern academies system last month.
“The debate in Victoria has been the price you pay. I think the success of the academies is there for everyone to see.”
Someone may correct my old man memory but did not Shuey collect Patch high twice over there with some high " bumps " resulting in concussions and a premature end to his career ?
I remember one distinctly.
Is he talking about when Sydney oh so generously took son of North Melbourne 200+ gamer John Blakey off our hands? Sure, what an advantage the father-son rule has been for us...
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Father son - Open to ALL clubs.
Academy players - Not open to all clubs, especially if they’re Top 10 talent.
The ‘oh but the Vu c clubs have advantages...blah blah blah’ is the biggest red herring out there.
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