Opposition Camp The Non-North FOOTY DISCUSSION ONLY & Matchday Chat Thread III

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Very funny by Mr Bowers i bet he gets invited to the club and he and his children get spoilt with Dogs merchandise.

Hmmm anyone at North leaving or retiring? :D
 

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What a rough way to go out. Brutal environment to be in.

Imagine us doing that to the four last year.


Former West Coast defender Mitch Brown tells of pain after club repeatedly changed its mind on his future in 2016 trade period

FORMER West Coast defender Mitch Brown has told of his pain after the club repeatedly changed its mind over whether it wanted him to play on in 2017.
Brown was delisted at the end of the 2016 season and did not find another AFL home after playing 94 games in an injury-ravaged career for the Eagles. He was selected with Pick 16 in the 2006 national draft.

He missed the 2015 season with a full knee reconstruction and played four games in his final year at the club.

The third of those was in Round 17 against Carlton, ahead of which he had expressed his interest in playing on at the Eagles. But after a list management meeting, the club made the call not to offer him a new deal.

“I was preparing to play Carlton at the ‘G at the time and I felt betrayed,” Brown told The Outer Sanctum podcast.

“I was hurt by my family and my initial reaction was I’d totally been blindsided. I thought I was good for one more. I decided I wasn’t going to get bitter.

“I was going to use the last five weeks to celebrate my 10 years at the footy club.”

Brown played just one more game in Eagles colours — the losing elimination final against the Western Bulldogs — with his career drama coming as his wife Shae, a star netballer, became a free agent for the new Super Netball competition.

She was offered a contract with the West Coast Fever but was then recruited by Collingwood. Shae accepted the deal to move to Melbourne, but just half an hour later, the Eagles changed their mind about Mitch, offering him a new deal.

“For her it was a hard time because she loves her netball and we made the gutsy decision to say, ‘OK we’ll knock back the netball contract in Perth’,” Brown said.

“That was really hard for her to do because she grew up with that club and was loyal to the Fever, but she made the brave decision to sign with Collingwood.

“We’d finally decided that we were going to go to Melbourne and then this comes and hits us and we’re back to square one, where we were just confused what to do.”
As the trade period continued, the Eagles allowed Brown to take his time, with the defender eventually deciding to accept.

He told The Outer Sanctum that he was willing to play in the WAFL and live away from his wife.

But then came the shock Sam Mitchell recruitment, leading to West Coast again withdrawing its offer to Brown.

“Day one of the trade period I got a phone call while I was overseas. It was from the Eagles and they sounded a bit upset,” Brown said.

“I literally had the contract in my hands, I had it. Obviously a few things had developed pretty quickly with the Sam Mitchell stuff and, just like that, the contract was taken away from me and I couldn’t really do anything about it.

“I got off the phone incredibly upset and wondering how I was going to tell my wife. I didn’t know what to say. That was it.”

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It was a tough saga for Brown, who said he learned a lot about loyalty in elite sport through the process.

“As a footy club, loyalty is one of our core values,” he said.

“We have it written on the wall and the coaching staff, the club, they expect loyalty. They expect excellence and they expect us to go out on game day and give everything for them.

“What I felt that day was that they expected everything from me but when it was on the other hand, they don’t show it back.”

In 2017, Brown has played for St Kevin’s Old Boys in the top flight of the VAFA. The team earned its way through to the Grand Final on Saturday.
 

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What a rough way to go out. Brutal environment to be in.

Imagine us doing that to the four last year.


Former West Coast defender Mitch Brown tells of pain after club repeatedly changed its mind on his future in 2016 trade period

FORMER West Coast defender Mitch Brown has told of his pain after the club repeatedly changed its mind over whether it wanted him to play on in 2017.
Brown was delisted at the end of the 2016 season and did not find another AFL home after playing 94 games in an injury-ravaged career for the Eagles. He was selected with Pick 16 in the 2006 national draft.

He missed the 2015 season with a full knee reconstruction and played four games in his final year at the club.

The third of those was in Round 17 against Carlton, ahead of which he had expressed his interest in playing on at the Eagles. But after a list management meeting, the club made the call not to offer him a new deal.

“I was preparing to play Carlton at the ‘G at the time and I felt betrayed,” Brown told The Outer Sanctum podcast.

“I was hurt by my family and my initial reaction was I’d totally been blindsided. I thought I was good for one more. I decided I wasn’t going to get bitter.

“I was going to use the last five weeks to celebrate my 10 years at the footy club.”

Brown played just one more game in Eagles colours — the losing elimination final against the Western Bulldogs — with his career drama coming as his wife Shae, a star netballer, became a free agent for the new Super Netball competition.

She was offered a contract with the West Coast Fever but was then recruited by Collingwood. Shae accepted the deal to move to Melbourne, but just half an hour later, the Eagles changed their mind about Mitch, offering him a new deal.

“For her it was a hard time because she loves her netball and we made the gutsy decision to say, ‘OK we’ll knock back the netball contract in Perth’,” Brown said.

“That was really hard for her to do because she grew up with that club and was loyal to the Fever, but she made the brave decision to sign with Collingwood.

“We’d finally decided that we were going to go to Melbourne and then this comes and hits us and we’re back to square one, where we were just confused what to do.”
As the trade period continued, the Eagles allowed Brown to take his time, with the defender eventually deciding to accept.

He told The Outer Sanctum that he was willing to play in the WAFL and live away from his wife.

But then came the shock Sam Mitchell recruitment, leading to West Coast again withdrawing its offer to Brown.

“Day one of the trade period I got a phone call while I was overseas. It was from the Eagles and they sounded a bit upset,” Brown said.

“I literally had the contract in my hands, I had it. Obviously a few things had developed pretty quickly with the Sam Mitchell stuff and, just like that, the contract was taken away from me and I couldn’t really do anything about it.

“I got off the phone incredibly upset and wondering how I was going to tell my wife. I didn’t know what to say. That was it.”

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It was a tough saga for Brown, who said he learned a lot about loyalty in elite sport through the process.

“As a footy club, loyalty is one of our core values,” he said.

“We have it written on the wall and the coaching staff, the club, they expect loyalty. They expect excellence and they expect us to go out on game day and give everything for them.

“What I felt that day was that they expected everything from me but when it was on the other hand, they don’t show it back.”

In 2017, Brown has played for St Kevin’s Old Boys in the top flight of the VAFA. The team earned its way through to the Grand Final on Saturday.
That's the type of shit that sees players leave clubs and never return... campaigners act by Simmo and the list manager...
 

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The irony of Tiger supporters talking up their massive 'army' is that most will miss out on GF tickets if they make it. AFL club member allocation is 17000. That's a shame.
Imagine what you could make off them dumb campaigners if you had 5-6 tickets and scalped them... A free onsie with each ticket lol
 

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So it's being reported that part of Richmonds offer to get Martin to re-sign was that the Martin family was allowed to sell their story.


Surely that's classified as payments outside the salary cap? Which wouldn't be legal.
 

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What a rough way to go out. Brutal environment to be in.

Imagine us doing that to the four last year.


Former West Coast defender Mitch Brown tells of pain after club repeatedly changed its mind on his future in 2016 trade period

FORMER West Coast defender Mitch Brown has told of his pain after the club repeatedly changed its mind over whether it wanted him to play on in 2017.
Brown was delisted at the end of the 2016 season and did not find another AFL home after playing 94 games in an injury-ravaged career for the Eagles. He was selected with Pick 16 in the 2006 national draft.

He missed the 2015 season with a full knee reconstruction and played four games in his final year at the club.

The third of those was in Round 17 against Carlton, ahead of which he had expressed his interest in playing on at the Eagles. But after a list management meeting, the club made the call not to offer him a new deal.

“I was preparing to play Carlton at the ‘G at the time and I felt betrayed,” Brown told The Outer Sanctum podcast.

“I was hurt by my family and my initial reaction was I’d totally been blindsided. I thought I was good for one more. I decided I wasn’t going to get bitter.

“I was going to use the last five weeks to celebrate my 10 years at the footy club.”

Brown played just one more game in Eagles colours — the losing elimination final against the Western Bulldogs — with his career drama coming as his wife Shae, a star netballer, became a free agent for the new Super Netball competition.

She was offered a contract with the West Coast Fever but was then recruited by Collingwood. Shae accepted the deal to move to Melbourne, but just half an hour later, the Eagles changed their mind about Mitch, offering him a new deal.

“For her it was a hard time because she loves her netball and we made the gutsy decision to say, ‘OK we’ll knock back the netball contract in Perth’,” Brown said.

“That was really hard for her to do because she grew up with that club and was loyal to the Fever, but she made the brave decision to sign with Collingwood.

“We’d finally decided that we were going to go to Melbourne and then this comes and hits us and we’re back to square one, where we were just confused what to do.”
As the trade period continued, the Eagles allowed Brown to take his time, with the defender eventually deciding to accept.

He told The Outer Sanctum that he was willing to play in the WAFL and live away from his wife.

But then came the shock Sam Mitchell recruitment, leading to West Coast again withdrawing its offer to Brown.

“Day one of the trade period I got a phone call while I was overseas. It was from the Eagles and they sounded a bit upset,” Brown said.

“I literally had the contract in my hands, I had it. Obviously a few things had developed pretty quickly with the Sam Mitchell stuff and, just like that, the contract was taken away from me and I couldn’t really do anything about it.

“I got off the phone incredibly upset and wondering how I was going to tell my wife. I didn’t know what to say. That was it.”

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It was a tough saga for Brown, who said he learned a lot about loyalty in elite sport through the process.

“As a footy club, loyalty is one of our core values,” he said.

“We have it written on the wall and the coaching staff, the club, they expect loyalty. They expect excellence and they expect us to go out on game day and give everything for them.

“What I felt that day was that they expected everything from me but when it was on the other hand, they don’t show it back.”

In 2017, Brown has played for St Kevin’s Old Boys in the top flight of the VAFA. The team earned its way through to the Grand Final on Saturday.
Christ that would send anyone for a spin. It's good that they kept him updated on their plans during the year, but what benefit is that when they change every 5 minutes.
 

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Luke Beveridge and Western Bulldogs went from handball club to party club, writes Jon Ralph


JON RALPH, Herald Sun

LUKE Beveridge seems cut from the same cloth as the AFL’s longest serving coach Mick Malthouse.

A father figure, a confidante and a master motivator who didn’t seem overly fussed if his players burnt the candle at both ends.



If his players wanted a cheeky beer or an odd blowout after a victory, it didn’t matter as long as they went to war for him on a weekly basis.

One of the many take-outs from the Western Bulldogs’ premiership hangoveris that an isolated group of his players took that rope and ran with it.

The last time there was this much chatter about the Dogs, the fallout was dramatic.

They sacked their coach, lost their Brownlow Medallist, traded their captain and saw their CEO depart just months later.

Now the club which won a premiership off the back of those dramatic decisions has again become the subject of an off-season whispering campaign.

They might ship their best forward, there are rumours about administrative changes, the list manager is unsigned, the fan base is unsettled.

The team that started the Handball Club seems more intent on being the Party Club.

The club’s recent history shows events are never as bad as they seem, that one poor season can be the launching pad for success.

But only if those issues are identified and immediately rectified instead of swept under the carpet.

Luke Beveridge’s decision to trade Jake Stringer is the warning shot across the bows of his entire list.

Beveridge’s issues run far deeper than Stringer when it comes to on-field issues.

A simple snapshot: the Dogs were 15th for points for, 18th for goals per inside 50, 18th for kicking efficiency, 18th for centre clearance ranking and 17th for hit-outs to advantage.

Simple question — who kicks all of the Dogs’ goals if Stringer leaves?

The Dogs want a pick for Stringer instead of players, with Essendon and Geelong strong early suitors and St Kilda, Collingwood and North Melbourne interested.

But as flighty and inconsistent and infuriating as Stringer is, he is a goalkicker.

Despite being dropped last year, despite a knee and two hamstring issues this year, he has 122 goals from 2015-2017.

In that time Marcus Bontempelli has 63 goals, Liam Picken 54, Jack Redpath 54, Luke Dahlhaus 39 and Tom Boyd 36.

Tory Dickson kicked 101, but at 30 and with just 11 of those goals coming this season, it’s hard to think he picks up the slack.

So Bevo needs to weed out the ratbags, find a better ruck set-up, weigh a trade for Stringer, fix his midfield, find more goalkickers.

A single entry on his resume — 2016 premiership coach — will have him shouted free beer in pubs west of North Melbourne for all his days.

But a long-lasting legacy comes from his capacity to drag this club back up the ladder again.
 
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North Ballarat have been informed their VFL license won't be renewed for the 2018 season by the AFL/VFL.





“After significant upheaval at board level in recent years at North Ballarat, AFL Victoria believes the current position the club finds itself from both a governance and on-field perspective doesn’t meet the key criteria needed for a continuation of the club’s VFL licence,” he said.

“AFL Victoria needs to ensure there is a sustainable team in Ballarat, and one that is representative of the region and is fully focussed on a state-league presence."
 
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North Ballarat have been informed their VFL license won't be renewed for the 2018 season by the AFL/VFL.





“After significant upheaval at board level in recent years at North Ballarat, AFL Victoria believes the current position the club finds itself from both a governance and on-field perspective doesn’t meet the key criteria needed for a continuation of the club’s VFL licence,” he said.

“AFL Victoria needs to ensure there is a sustainable team in Ballarat, and one that is representative of the region and is fully focussed on a state-league presence."
That's a shame. No doubt Footscray will play half their home games in Ballarat now. The AFL did go on to say NB can return to the VFL when they show their house is in order at least.
 

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North Ballarat have been informed their VFL license won't be renewed for the 2018 season by the AFL/VFL.





“After significant upheaval at board level in recent years at North Ballarat, AFL Victoria believes the current position the club finds itself from both a governance and on-field perspective doesn’t meet the key criteria needed for a continuation of the club’s VFL licence,” he said.

“AFL Victoria needs to ensure there is a sustainable team in Ballarat, and one that is representative of the region and is fully focussed on a state-league presence."
All started going pear shaped for them when they lost aaron black.
 
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