Opposition Camp The Non-North FOOTY DISCUSSION ONLY & Matchday Chat Thread III

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Nah GWS lost the game as they didnt work well in numbers. The umpiring didn't help.

Well Shiel was going great guns at the start too. Winning clearances....breaking away and driving the ball in.

No Mummy and Shiel hurt not being there as big bodies. Shiel may look smallish but he is solid as a rock.
 

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This year's two Grand Finalists are an excellent example of how development, excellent coaching and solid, reliable tactical set up can take you to success, instead of just stockpiling early draft picks. Adelaide are obvious, they haven't had a top 10 pick in more than 10 years and have developed a game plan that is aggressive, high scoring and takes risks to win the corridor. I love their old fashioned use of CHF and they have the perfect player to play that position in Walker.

But fair due has to be paid to Richmond as well. This is effectively the same team that finished 13th last season. Sure, the standard and number of truly quality teams in the AFL isn't great atm, but they've done well to improve by that much in the space of 12 months and it's pretty much all down to coaching. They cleared out all the assistants, got new ideas in, changed their gameplan from a poor facsimile of Hawthorn's at their best which their players couldn't execute, to one built around manic pressure and hard work. It's perfectly suited to their players abilities, giving limited players roles that are crucial in the system and compliment their strengths and weaknesses.

We can, and I hope we do, take a lot from how both of these teams have gone about their footy this season.
 
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This year's two Grand Finalists are an excellent example of how development, excellent coaching and solid, reliable tactical set up can take you to success, instead of just stockpiling early draft picks. Adelaide are obvious, they haven't had a top 10 pick in more than 10 years and have developed a game plan that is aggressive, high scoring and takes risks to win the corridor. I love their old fashioned use of CHF and they have the perfect player to play that position in Walker.

But fair due has to be paid to Richmond as well. This is effectively the same team that finished 13th last season. Sure, the standard and number of truly quality teams in the AFL isn't great atm, but they've done well to improve by that much in the space of 12 months and it's pretty much all down to coaching. They cleared out all the assistants, got new ideas in, changed their gameplan from a poor facsimile of Hawthorn's at their best which their players couldn't execute, to line built around manic pressure and hard work. It's perfectly suited to their players abilities, giving limited players roles that are crucial in the system and compliment their strengths and weaknesses.

We can, and I hope we do, take a lot from how both of these teams have gone about their footy this season.
Nah.

We'll stick with a system that doesn't play to our players strengths whilst backing in players who haven't played a good game for eight weeks.
 

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This year's two Grand Finalists are an excellent example of how development, excellent coaching and solid, reliable tactical set up can take you to success, instead of just stockpiling early draft picks. Adelaide are obvious, they haven't had a top 10 pick in more than 10 years and have developed a game plan that is aggressive, high scoring and takes risks to win the corridor. I love their old fashioned use of CHF and they have the perfect player to play that position in Walker.

But fair due has to be paid to Richmond as well. This is effectively the same team that finished 13th last season. Sure, the standard and number of truly quality teams in the AFL isn't great atm, but they've done well to improve by that much in the space of 12 months and it's pretty much all down to coaching. They cleared out all the assistants, got new ideas in, changed their gameplan from a poor facsimile of Hawthorn's at their best which their players couldn't execute, to one built around manic pressure and hard work. It's perfectly suited to their players abilities, giving limited players roles that are crucial in the system and compliment their strengths and weaknesses.

We can, and I hope we do, take a lot from how both of these teams have gone about their footy this season.
Not really. They were very aggressive during last year's trade period and it has paid huge dividends. Caddy, Prestia and Nankervis have all been great for them this year.
I think what you mean is that they're getting much better outcomes from a lot of the same players given different applications. Which is true but their recruitment team also deserves kudos.
 

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Not really. They were very aggressive during last year's trade period and it has paid huge dividends. Caddy, Prestia and Nankervis have all been great for them this year.
I think what you mean is that they're getting much better outcomes from a lot of the same players given different applications. Which is true but their recruitment team also deserves kudos.
Those three players aren't the reason they jumped from 13th to Grand Finalists though. This might be a little unfair on Prestia, but none of them are stars and Caddy in particular has been a laughing stock on here and elsewhere on BF. They're limited role players who have been given duties that play to their strengths and mitigate their weaknesses. The same can be said for a whole host of players in that team, most which have formed the core of that side over the last few years: Vlastuin, Grimes, Astbury, Townsend, McIntosh, Lambert, Grigg, Houli, Graham, Broad, Castagna, Edwards, Butler, Ellis and Rioli. All those players played yesterday and probably all of them will be Grand Finalists next week. You don't get there with that group of players without excellent coaching.

They obviously have 4 genuine guns in Martin, Cotchin, Rance and Riewoldt who do their fair share of carrying them at different times, but the improvement of the rest this season can entirely be put down to good coach and tactical application while playing to their strengths. That has come in the change of game plan from the last few seasons, to the far more effective one they've implemented this year.
 
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