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Only 3 players have done it in Shield cricket - Tim Wall (fast bowler, test player from the 1930s), Peter Allan (fast bowler, one test in the 1960s) and Ian Brayshaw (father of James), who is in the list of 'best cricketers never to play a test match'.

It happened A LOT in county cricket pre- the wars. I think Tich Freeman (played a few tests 1920s) did it at least 3 times.
https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/content/records/209288.html
 
Only 3 players have done it in Shield cricket - Tim Wall (fast bowler, test player from the 1930s), Peter Allan (fast bowler, one test in the 1960s) and Ian Brayshaw (father of James), who is in the list of 'best cricketers never to play a test match'.

It happened A LOT in county cricket pre- the wars. I think Tich Freeman (played a few tests 1920s) did it at least 3 times.
https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/content/records/209288.html


Tim Wall - haven't heard that name for a long long time. Useless trivia: He was the grandfather of Brett Swain, fast bowler from the sensational Andrew Eime/Mark Harrity era of South Australian mediocrity
 
Can someone make me the best side where all the batsmen have a first class 300 and all the bowlers have taken 10 wickets in an innings? Just a random thought I had but can't be bothered putting it together.
Hanif Mohammad
Graham Gooch
Donald Bradman
Brian Lara
Gary Sobers
Wally Hammond
Kumar Sangakkara (wk)
George Giffen
Gubby Allen
Anil Kumble
Jim Laker

Top 7 are all based on Test 300's. The two bowlers who took 10 wickets in a Test are also included (Laker, Kumble).

Opening batting spots were a bit tough, plenty to choose from - Sehwag, Simpson, Taylor, Warner, Gayle, Hutton, Hayden.

Bowling would be Allen, Giffen, Sobers, Hammond, Kumble & Laker.
 

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Hanif Mohammad
Graham Gooch
Donald Bradman
Brian Lara
Gary Sobers
Wally Hammond
Kumar Sangakkara (wk)
George Giffen
Gubby Allen
Anil Kumble
Jim Laker

Top 7 are all based on Test 300's. The two bowlers who took 10 wickets in a Test are also included (Laker, Kumble).

Opening batting spots were a bit tough, plenty to choose from - Sehwag, Simpson, Taylor, Warner, Gayle, Hutton, Hayden.

Bowling would be Allen, Giffen, Sobers, Hammond, Kumble & Laker.

Outstanding. The only criticism would be the lack of an out and out fast bowler, but not sure many of those have taken 10 in an innings.
 
Obviously I’m biased because I want to have children with one of them and quite liked the other but I’d have given preference to Gayle and Sehwag simply because they had two triples each (and a 294 in Sehwag’s case)
 
A team of Englishmen with first class cricket experience who became better-known in other fields


Lord Dunglass: the only British prime minister (1963-64) to play first class cricket, he played 10 first class matches
Sir Arthur Conan Doyle: author who created Sherlock Holmes, Doyle played 10 first class matches, and as many would know, claimed the wicket of WG Grace as his sole first class victim.
Spencer Gore: The first winner of Wimbledon in 1877, he played 5 first class games
Henry Blofeld: my dear old things, Henry played 17 first class matches before making his name as a cricket author and commentator.
Sir Geoff Hurst: Hurst played one first class game for Essex and scored 0 not out and 0 before gaining fame as a soccer player whose big moment was scoring a hat trick in England’s World Cup triumph of 1966
John Wisden: Wisden was a gun-bowler during the pre-Test cricket era and took 1109 first class wickets before launching that chunky yellow book which comes out each year.
Sir John Brocklebank: famous for having been the chairman of the Cunard Shipping Company between 1959 and 1965, Brocklebank placed the order for the construction of the QE2. He played 21 first class matches.
Sir Douglas Bader: World War II pilot who was given artificial legs after a flying accident. Bader played one first class game for the RAF shortly before his accident and scored 65 and 1.
Lord Sheffield: the man who donated the Sheffield Shield to Australia played one first class match and scored a pair.
Dickie Bird: Bird played 93 first class games before umpiring 66 Tests, 69 one-dayers and 503 first class matches.
Thomas Lord: Lord played 60 first class games in the pre-Test era before becoming the founder of Lord’s cricket ground.

twelfth man
Samuel Beckett: Irish playwright who wrote Waiting for Godot and won the Nobel Prize for Literature in 1969. Beckett played 2 first class games for Dublin University.
 
A team of Englishmen with first class cricket experience who became better-known in other fields


Lord Dunglass: the only British prime minister (1963-64) to play first class cricket, he played 10 first class matches
Sir Arthur Conan Doyle: author who created Sherlock Holmes, Doyle played 10 first class matches, and as many would know, claimed the wicket of WG Grace as his sole first class victim.
Spencer Gore: The first winner of Wimbledon in 1877, he played 5 first class games
Henry Blofeld: my dear old things, Henry played 17 first class matches before making his name as a cricket author and commentator.
Sir Geoff Hurst: Hurst played one first class game for Essex and scored 0 not out and 0 before gaining fame as a soccer player whose big moment was scoring a hat trick in England’s World Cup triumph of 1966
John Wisden: Wisden was a gun-bowler during the pre-Test cricket era and took 1109 first class wickets before launching that chunky yellow book which comes out each year.
Sir John Brocklebank: famous for having been the chairman of the Cunard Shipping Company between 1959 and 1965, Brocklebank placed the order for the construction of the QE2. He played 21 first class matches.
Sir Douglas Bader: World War II pilot who was given artificial legs after a flying accident. Bader played one first class game for the RAF shortly before his accident and scored 65 and 1.
Lord Sheffield: the man who donated the Sheffield Shield to Australia played one first class match and scored a pair.
Dickie Bird: Bird played 93 first class games before umpiring 66 Tests, 69 one-dayers and 503 first class matches.
Thomas Lord: Lord played 60 first class games in the pre-Test era before becoming the founder of Lord’s cricket ground.

twelfth man
Samuel Beckett: Irish playwright who wrote Waiting for Godot and won the Nobel Prize for Literature in 1969. Beckett played 2 first class games for Dublin University.
Beckett won't like you lumping him with the poms
 
A team of Englishmen with first class cricket experience who became better-known in other fields


Lord Dunglass: the only British prime minister (1963-64) to play first class cricket, he played 10 first class matches
Sir Arthur Conan Doyle: author who created Sherlock Holmes, Doyle played 10 first class matches, and as many would know, claimed the wicket of WG Grace as his sole first class victim.
Spencer Gore: The first winner of Wimbledon in 1877, he played 5 first class games
Henry Blofeld: my dear old things, Henry played 17 first class matches before making his name as a cricket author and commentator.
Sir Geoff Hurst: Hurst played one first class game for Essex and scored 0 not out and 0 before gaining fame as a soccer player whose big moment was scoring a hat trick in England’s World Cup triumph of 1966
John Wisden: Wisden was a gun-bowler during the pre-Test cricket era and took 1109 first class wickets before launching that chunky yellow book which comes out each year.
Sir John Brocklebank: famous for having been the chairman of the Cunard Shipping Company between 1959 and 1965, Brocklebank placed the order for the construction of the QE2. He played 21 first class matches.
Sir Douglas Bader: World War II pilot who was given artificial legs after a flying accident. Bader played one first class game for the RAF shortly before his accident and scored 65 and 1.
Lord Sheffield: the man who donated the Sheffield Shield to Australia played one first class match and scored a pair.
Dickie Bird: Bird played 93 first class games before umpiring 66 Tests, 69 one-dayers and 503 first class matches.
Thomas Lord: Lord played 60 first class games in the pre-Test era before becoming the founder of Lord’s cricket ground.

twelfth man
Samuel Beckett: Irish playwright who wrote Waiting for Godot and won the Nobel Prize for Literature in 1969. Beckett played 2 first class games for Dublin University.


ok Bad Taste alert:

Peter Roebuck is better known to people of my generation as several things before he's remembered as a cricketer.
 
A team of Englishmen with first class cricket experience who became better-known in other fields


Lord Dunglass: the only British prime minister (1963-64) to play first class cricket, he played 10 first class matches
Sir Arthur Conan Doyle: author who created Sherlock Holmes, Doyle played 10 first class matches, and as many would know, claimed the wicket of WG Grace as his sole first class victim.
Spencer Gore: The first winner of Wimbledon in 1877, he played 5 first class games
Henry Blofeld: my dear old things, Henry played 17 first class matches before making his name as a cricket author and commentator.
Sir Geoff Hurst: Hurst played one first class game for Essex and scored 0 not out and 0 before gaining fame as a soccer player whose big moment was scoring a hat trick in England’s World Cup triumph of 1966
John Wisden: Wisden was a gun-bowler during the pre-Test cricket era and took 1109 first class wickets before launching that chunky yellow book which comes out each year.
Sir John Brocklebank: famous for having been the chairman of the Cunard Shipping Company between 1959 and 1965, Brocklebank placed the order for the construction of the QE2. He played 21 first class matches.
Sir Douglas Bader: World War II pilot who was given artificial legs after a flying accident. Bader played one first class game for the RAF shortly before his accident and scored 65 and 1.
Lord Sheffield: the man who donated the Sheffield Shield to Australia played one first class match and scored a pair.
Dickie Bird: Bird played 93 first class games before umpiring 66 Tests, 69 one-dayers and 503 first class matches.
Thomas Lord: Lord played 60 first class games in the pre-Test era before becoming the founder of Lord’s cricket ground.

twelfth man
Samuel Beckett: Irish playwright who wrote Waiting for Godot and won the Nobel Prize for Literature in 1969. Beckett played 2 first class games for Dublin University.

A team of Englishmen with first class cricket experience who became better-known in other fields


Lord Dunglass: the only British prime minister (1963-64) to play first class cricket, he played 10 first class matches
Sir Arthur Conan Doyle: author who created Sherlock Holmes, Doyle played 10 first class matches, and as many would know, claimed the wicket of WG Grace as his sole first class victim.
Spencer Gore: The first winner of Wimbledon in 1877, he played 5 first class games
Henry Blofeld: my dear old things, Henry played 17 first class matches before making his name as a cricket author and commentator.
Sir Geoff Hurst: Hurst played one first class game for Essex and scored 0 not out and 0 before gaining fame as a soccer player whose big moment was scoring a hat trick in England’s World Cup triumph of 1966
John Wisden: Wisden was a gun-bowler during the pre-Test cricket era and took 1109 first class wickets before launching that chunky yellow book which comes out each year.
Sir John Brocklebank: famous for having been the chairman of the Cunard Shipping Company between 1959 and 1965, Brocklebank placed the order for the construction of the QE2. He played 21 first class matches.
Sir Douglas Bader: World War II pilot who was given artificial legs after a flying accident. Bader played one first class game for the RAF shortly before his accident and scored 65 and 1.
Lord Sheffield: the man who donated the Sheffield Shield to Australia played one first class match and scored a pair.
Dickie Bird: Bird played 93 first class games before umpiring 66 Tests, 69 one-dayers and 503 first class matches.
Thomas Lord: Lord played 60 first class games in the pre-Test era before becoming the founder of Lord’s cricket ground.

twelfth man
Samuel Beckett: Irish playwright who wrote Waiting for Godot and won the Nobel Prize for Literature in 1969. Beckett played 2 first class games for Dublin University.

Left out Julius Caesar - emperor of rome
 

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2020/21 SoO:

NSW:

1. Usman Khawaja
2. David Warner
3. Kurtis Patterson (c)
4. Steve Smith
5. Nic Maddinson
6. Moises Henriques
7. Matthew Gilkes (+)
8. Mitchell Starc
9. Pat Cummins
10. Nathan Lyon
11. Josh Hazlewood

Qld:

1. Bryce Street
2. Joe Burns
3. Marnus Labuschagne (c)
4. Matthew Renshaw
5. Ben McDermott
6. Jimmy Peirson (+)
7. Jack Wildermuth
8. Michael Neser
9. Mark Steketee
10. Cameron Gannon
11. Mitchell Swepson

SA:

1. Jake Weatherald*
2. Conor McInerney
3. Travis Head (c)
4. Alex Carey
5. Harry Nielson (+)
6. Liam Scott
7. Tom Andrews*
8. Joe Mennie
9. Kane Richardson*
10. Chadd Sayers
11. Lloyd Pope

Tas:

1. Alex Doolan
2. Caleb Jewell
3. Matthew Wade (c)
4. Mac Wright
5. Beau Webster
6. Tim Paine (+)
7. Jack White
8. Sam Rainbird
9. Lawrence Neil-Smith
10. Gabe Bell
11. Riley Meredith

Vic:

1. Matthew Short
2. Will Pucovski
3. Peter Handscomb (c)
4. Aaron Finch
5. Glenn Maxwell
6. Seb Gotch (+)
7. Ashton Agar
8. Will Sutherland
9. James Pattinson
10. Peter Siddle
11. Jon Holland

WA:

1. Sam Whiteman
2. Marcus Harris
3. Shaun Marsh
4. Mitchell Marsh (c)
5. Marcus Stoinis
6. D'Arcy Short*
7. Josh Inglis (+)
8. Jhye Richardson
9. Joel Paris
10. Matthew Kelly
11. Liam O'Connor

*Given the nature of NT cricket I let them play where they originally adopted themselves to.

And just for fun, a CA XI that missed out. Are they better than the weak looking SA/Tassie sides? I think yes (because of that bowling...)

1. Cameron Bancroft
2. Daniel Hughes (c)
3. Nick Larkin
4. Sam Heazlett
5. Ashton Turner
6. Sam Harper (+)
7. Sean Abbott
8. Nathan Ellis
9. Brendan Doggett
10. Scott Boland
11. Wil Parker
 
2020/21 SoO:

NSW:

1. Usman Khawaja
2. David Warner
3. Kurtis Patterson (c)
4. Steve Smith
5. Nic Maddinson
6. Moises Henriques
7. Matthew Gilkes (+)
8. Mitchell Starc
9. Pat Cummins
10. Nathan Lyon
11. Josh Hazlewood

Qld:

1. Bryce Street
2. Joe Burns
3. Marnus Labuschagne (c)
4. Matthew Renshaw
5. Ben McDermott
6. Jimmy Peirson (+)
7. Jack Wildermuth
8. Michael Neser
9. Mark Steketee
10. Cameron Gannon
11. Mitchell Swepson

SA:

1. Jake Weatherald*
2. Conor McInerney
3. Travis Head (c)
4. Alex Carey
5. Harry Nielson (+)
6. Liam Scott
7. Tom Andrews*
8. Joe Mennie
9. Kane Richardson*
10. Chadd Sayers
11. Lloyd Pope

Tas:

1. Alex Doolan
2. Caleb Jewell
3. Matthew Wade (c)
4. Mac Wright
5. Beau Webster
6. Tim Paine (+)
7. Jack White
8. Sam Rainbird
9. Lawrence Neil-Smith
10. Gabe Bell
11. Riley Meredith

Vic:

1. Matthew Short
2. Will Pucovski
3. Peter Handscomb (c)
4. Aaron Finch
5. Glenn Maxwell
6. Seb Gotch (+)
7. Ashton Agar
8. Will Sutherland
9. James Pattinson
10. Peter Siddle
11. Jon Holland

WA:

1. Sam Whiteman
2. Marcus Harris
3. Shaun Marsh
4. Mitchell Marsh (c)
5. Marcus Stoinis
6. D'Arcy Short*
7. Josh Inglis (+)
8. Jhye Richardson
9. Joel Paris
10. Matthew Kelly
11. Liam O'Connor

*Given the nature of NT cricket I let them play where they originally adopted themselves to.

And just for fun, a CA XI that missed out. Are they better than the weak looking SA/Tassie sides? I think yes (because of that bowling...)

1. Cameron Bancroft
2. Daniel Hughes (c)
3. Nick Larkin
4. Sam Heazlett
5. Ashton Turner
6. Sam Harper (+)
7. Sean Abbott
8. Nathan Ellis
9. Brendan Doggett
10. Scott Boland
11. Wil Parker

Act must be close to fielding decent side; Lyon, berendoff, Winter, Rogers, Hunt, Ross
 
And an all time one:

NSW:

1. Bob Simpson
2. Arthur Morris
3. Don Bradman
4. Steve Smith
5. Steve Waugh
6. Allan Border (c)
7. Adam Gilchrist (+)
8. Richie Benaud
9. Allan Davidson
10. Ray Lindwall
11. Glenn McGrath

Qld:

1. Bill Brown (c)
2. Matthew Hayden
3. Marnus Labuschagne
4. Greg Ritchie
5. Peter Burge
6. Shane Watson
7. Ian Healy (+)
8. Mitchell Johnson
9. Michael Kasprowicz
10. Craig McDermott
11. Bert Ironmonger

SA:

1. Clem Hill
2. Greg Blewett
3. Ian Chappell
4. Greg Chappell (c)
5. George Giffen
6. Darren Lehmann
7. Wayne Phillips (+)
8. Neil Hawke
9. Tim May
10. Jason Gillespie
11. Tim Wall

Tas:

1. David Boon
2. Michael Di Venuto
3. Ricky Ponting (c)
4. Matthew Wade
5. Alex Doolan
6. James Faulkner
7. Tim Paine (+)
8. Max Walker
9. Ted McDonald
10. Ben Hilfenhaus
11. Doug Ring

Vic:

1. Bill Ponsford
2. Bill Lawry (c)
3. Warwick Armstrong
4. Neil Harvey
5. Dean Jones
6. Kaith Miller
7. Darren Berry (+)
8. Hugh Trumble
9. Shane Warne
10. Rodney Hogg
11. Merv Hughes

WA:

1. Justin Langer
2. Geoff Marsh
3. Kim Hughes (c)
4. Michael Hussey
5. Shaun Marsh
6. Simon Katich
7. Rod Marsh (+)
8. Bruce Yardley
9. Dennis Lillee
10. Terry Alderman
11. Bruce Reid
 
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2020/21 SoO:

NSW:

1. Usman Khawaja
2. David Warner
3. Kurtis Patterson (c)
4. Steve Smith
5. Nic Maddinson
6. Moises Henriques
7. Matthew Gilkes (+)
8. Mitchell Starc
9. Pat Cummins
10. Nathan Lyon
11. Josh Hazlewood

Qld:

1. Bryce Street
2. Joe Burns
3. Marnus Labuschagne (c)
4. Matthew Renshaw
5. Ben McDermott
6. Jimmy Peirson (+)
7. Jack Wildermuth
8. Michael Neser
9. Mark Steketee
10. Cameron Gannon
11. Mitchell Swepson

SA:

1. Jake Weatherald*
2. Conor McInerney
3. Travis Head (c)
4. Alex Carey
5. Harry Nielson (+)
6. Liam Scott
7. Tom Andrews*
8. Joe Mennie
9. Kane Richardson*
10. Chadd Sayers
11. Lloyd Pope

Tas:

1. Alex Doolan
2. Caleb Jewell
3. Matthew Wade (c)
4. Mac Wright
5. Beau Webster
6. Tim Paine (+)
7. Jack White
8. Sam Rainbird
9. Lawrence Neil-Smith
10. Gabe Bell
11. Riley Meredith

Vic:

1. Matthew Short
2. Will Pucovski
3. Peter Handscomb (c)
4. Aaron Finch
5. Glenn Maxwell
6. Seb Gotch (+)
7. Ashton Agar
8. Will Sutherland
9. James Pattinson
10. Peter Siddle
11. Jon Holland

WA:

1. Sam Whiteman
2. Marcus Harris
3. Shaun Marsh
4. Mitchell Marsh (c)
5. Marcus Stoinis
6. D'Arcy Short*
7. Josh Inglis (+)
8. Jhye Richardson
9. Joel Paris
10. Matthew Kelly
11. Liam O'Connor

*Given the nature of NT cricket I let them play where they originally adopted themselves to.

And just for fun, a CA XI that missed out. Are they better than the weak looking SA/Tassie sides? I think yes (because of that bowling...)

1. Cameron Bancroft
2. Daniel Hughes (c)
3. Nick Larkin
4. Sam Heazlett
5. Ashton Turner
6. Sam Harper (+)
7. Sean Abbott
8. Nathan Ellis
9. Brendan Doggett
10. Scott Boland
11. Wil Parker
I think Joe Mennie is a NSWman Ethy.
 
I think Joe Mennie is a NSWman Ethy.
Jesus, that makes it a struggle for SA. Maybe Alex Gregory? Hasn't played FC cricket but is a seamer from SA...
 
2020/21 SoO:

NSW:

1. Usman Khawaja
2. David Warner
3. Kurtis Patterson (c)
4. Steve Smith
5. Nic Maddinson
6. Moises Henriques
7. Matthew Gilkes (+)
8. Mitchell Starc
9. Pat Cummins
10. Nathan Lyon
11. Josh Hazlewood

Qld:

1. Bryce Street
2. Joe Burns
3. Marnus Labuschagne (c)
4. Matthew Renshaw
5. Ben McDermott
6. Jimmy Peirson (+)
7. Jack Wildermuth
8. Michael Neser
9. Mark Steketee
10. Cameron Gannon
11. Mitchell Swepson

SA:

1. Jake Weatherald*
2. Conor McInerney
3. Travis Head (c)
4. Alex Carey
5. Harry Nielson (+)
6. Liam Scott
7. Tom Andrews*
8. Joe Mennie
9. Kane Richardson*
10. Chadd Sayers
11. Lloyd Pope

Tas:

1. Alex Doolan
2. Caleb Jewell
3. Matthew Wade (c)
4. Mac Wright
5. Beau Webster
6. Tim Paine (+)
7. Jack White
8. Sam Rainbird
9. Lawrence Neil-Smith
10. Gabe Bell
11. Riley Meredith

Vic:

1. Matthew Short
2. Will Pucovski
3. Peter Handscomb (c)
4. Aaron Finch
5. Glenn Maxwell
6. Seb Gotch (+)
7. Ashton Agar
8. Will Sutherland
9. James Pattinson
10. Peter Siddle
11. Jon Holland

WA:

1. Sam Whiteman
2. Marcus Harris
3. Shaun Marsh
4. Mitchell Marsh (c)
5. Marcus Stoinis
6. D'Arcy Short*
7. Josh Inglis (+)
8. Jhye Richardson
9. Joel Paris
10. Matthew Kelly
11. Liam O'Connor

*Given the nature of NT cricket I let them play where they originally adopted themselves to.

And just for fun, a CA XI that missed out. Are they better than the weak looking SA/Tassie sides? I think yes (because of that bowling...)

1. Cameron Bancroft
2. Daniel Hughes (c)
3. Nick Larkin
4. Sam Heazlett
5. Ashton Turner
6. Sam Harper (+)
7. Sean Abbott
8. Nathan Ellis
9. Brendan Doggett
10. Scott Boland
11. Wil Parker
Overseas born team would be handy.

Usman Khawaja
Matt Renshaw
Marnus Labuschagne
Meg Lanning (capt)
Moises Henriques
Hilton Cartwright
Sam Whiteman (wk)
Michael Neser
Aaron Hardie
Fawad Ahmed
Steven O'Keefe
 

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