The obscure XI's you've always wanted to make but never found the appropriate place thread

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eth-dog said:
An Aussie XI in players by the best in that fielding position (That I've seen, for the opening bowlers, who will be McGrath and Lee)

Keeper: Adam Gilchrist
1st slip: Matthew Hayden
2nd slip: Ricky Ponting
3rd slip: Steve Smith
Gully: Michael Hussey
Point: Michael Clarke
Mid-off: Patrick Cummins
Mid-on: Nathan Lyon
Short Leg: Cameron Bancroft
Fine Leg: Lee/McGrath

In an XI format:

Cameron Bancroft
Matthew Hayden
Ricky Ponting
Steve Smith
Michael Clarke
Michael Hussey
Adam Gilchrist
Patrick Cummins
Brett Lee
Nathan Lyon
Glenn McGrath

Obviously Bancroft is the weak link in there. I was tempted to go Marnus short leg, Lyon at point and Warner at mid-on but eh, Bangers is the better SL
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Okay, doing this for a "still playing" group (in FC cricket minimum)

Keeper: Tim Paine
1st slip: Matthew Renshaw
2nd slip: Steven Smith
3rd slip: Aaron Finch
Gully: Peter Handscomb
Point: Nathan Lyon
Mid-off: Patrick Cummins
Mid-on: Glenn Maxwell
Short Leg: Cameron Bancroft
Fine Leg: Pattinson/Hazlewood

Renshaw
Bancroft
Smith
Handscomb
Finch
Maxwell
Paine
Cummins
Pattinson
Lyon
Hazlewood

Talk about Finch/Hank with the stick all you like, both have fantastic hands in the cordon.
 

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Mediocre New Zealand "bits and pieces" cricketers eleven from the last 30 or so years
1) Matt Horne 35 tests bat ,28.38
2) Blair Pocock 15 tests bat 22.93
3) Matthew bell 18 tests bat 24.30
4) Matt Sinclair 33 tests at 32.05. (take out his single 200 he averages 28)
5) ken Rutherford 57 tests bat 27.09
6) Chris Harris 23 tests bat 20.45 bowl 73.13
7) Lee germon (c) 12 tests bat 21.22
8) Dipak Patel 37 tests bat 20.69 bowl 42.05
9) Chris Pringle 14 tests bowl 48.30
10) Paul Wiseman 25 tests bowl 47.59
11) Geoff Allott 10 tests bowl 58.47
 
The 'I started following the domestic scene in 2011 and these guys were my early faves' One Day XI

Aaron Finch
Michael Klinger
Callum Ferguson
David Hussey
Moises Henriques
Matthew Wade (WK)
Dan Christian
James Faulkner
Pat Cummins
Nathan Coulter-Nile
Kane Richardson
 
A squad of players with Bert derivations in their names

Arthur Robert Morris
Herbert Sutcliffe
Cuthbert Gordon Greenidge
Robert Baddeley Simpson
Bert Sutcliffe
Robert Graeme Pollock
William Gilbert Grace
Clive Hubert Lloyd
Allan Robert Border
Robert Neil Harvey
Leslie Ethelbert George Ames
Albert Ernest Edward Vogler
Jeffrey Robert Thomson
Frederick Robert Spofforth
Robert George Dylan Willis
 
worbod said:
A squad of players with Bert derivations in their names

Arthur Robert Morris
Herbert Sutcliffe
Cuthbert Gordon Greenidge
Robert Baddeley Simpson
Bert Sutcliffe
Robert Graeme Pollock
William Gilbert Grace
Clive Hubert Lloyd
Allan Robert Border
Robert Neil Harvey
Leslie Ethelbert George Ames
Albert Ernest Edward Vogler
Jeffrey Robert Thomson
Frederick Robert Spofforth
Robert George Dylan Willis
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Disgusted by the absence of Vasbert Drakes
 
A "great Shield XI that never played test cricket" XI

Michael di Venuto
Jamie Cox (c)
Sam Trimble
Jamie Siddons
David Hussey
Michael Klinger
James Hopes
Ashley Noffke
Darren Berry (+)
Damien Wright
Fawad Ahmed

Because Berry is so bad with the bat for a keeper I was tempted to have a part time keeper in diva and play the extra bowler. Noffke and Wright would obviously take the new ball, and I couldn't find an uncapped spinner as good as Fawad.
 
eth-dog said:
A "great Shield XI that never played test cricket" XI

Michael di Venuto
Jamie Cox (c)
Sam Trimble
Jamie Siddons
David Hussey
Michael Klinger
James Hopes
Ashley Noffke
Darren Berry (+)
Damien Wright
Fawad Ahmed

Because Berry is so bad with the bat for a keeper I was tempted to have a part time keeper in diva and play the extra bowler. Noffke and Wright would obviously take the new ball, and I couldn't find an uncapped spinner as good as Fawad.
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disappointed with the lack of Nobesy
 
eth-dog said:
A "great Shield XI that never played test cricket" XI

Michael di Venuto
Jamie Cox (c)
Sam Trimble
Jamie Siddons
David Hussey
Michael Klinger
James Hopes
Ashley Noffke
Darren Berry (+)
Damien Wright
Fawad Ahmed

Because Berry is so bad with the bat for a keeper I was tempted to have a part time keeper in diva and play the extra bowler. Noffke and Wright would obviously take the new ball, and I couldn't find an uncapped spinner as good as Fawad.
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Ian Brayshaw.
 

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eth-dog said:
A "great Shield XI that never played test cricket" XI

Michael di Venuto
Jamie Cox (c)
Sam Trimble
Jamie Siddons
David Hussey
Michael Klinger
James Hopes
Ashley Noffke
Darren Berry (+)
Damien Wright
Fawad Ahmed

Because Berry is so bad with the bat for a keeper I was tempted to have a part time keeper in diva and play the extra bowler. Noffke and Wright would obviously take the new ball, and I couldn't find an uncapped spinner as good as Fawad.
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Wayne Prior unlucky to miss out.
 
FredLeDeux said:
Better batting and bowling record than each of Hopes, Nofke and Wright.
In his day he was generally described as the best player never to play for Aus.
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Okay, let's look at their bowling records in the Shield:

Noffke: 75 matches, 254 wickets (3.39/match), ave 28.79, er 2.95, sr 58.4, 12 five-fors, 0 ten-fors
Wright: 86 matches, 282 wickets (3.28/match), ave 29.47, er 2.70, sr 65.3, 10 five-fors, 0 ten-fors
Hopes: 104 matches, 296 wickets (2.85/match), ave 26.75, er 2.47, sr 64.7, 11 five-fors, 0 ten-fors
Brayshaw: 101 matches, 178 wickets (1.76/match), ave 25.08, er 2.30, sr 65.3, 7 five-fors, 2 ten-fors

Sure he has a better average and economy rate but he played over 100 games for well less than 200 wickets. I didn't see him but his record, if better than the above, is marginal at best.

And since you want to talk about the batting as well, let's compare him and Hopes (including tour games for hopes due to not having his shield stats alone)

Hopes: 108 matches, 175 innings', 5402 runs, ave 31.77, 5 centuries, 34 fifties.
Brayshaw: 101 matches, 161 innings', 4325 runs, ave 31.80, 3 centuries, 26 fifties.

So by better batting record you mean far fewer runs at a marginally better average that if rounded to the first decimal place like most do is the same, with less centuries and less fifties in a very similar amount of games?
 
All time "regional" squad grouping (Asia, South Pacific, Africa, North Atlantic)

Asia (Ind/SL/Pak/Ban/Afg)

Sunil Gavaskar
Virender Sehwag
Kumar Sangakkara (+)
Sachin Tendulkar
Younis Khan
Mahela Jayawardena
Imran Khan (c)
Kapil Dev
Waqar Younis
Anil Kumble
Muttiah Muralidaran

Sanath Jayasuriya, Rahul Dravid, Mohammed Yousuf, Shakib Al Hasan, Wasim Akram, Chaminder Vaas, Rangana Herath

South Pacific (Aus/NZ)

Stewie Dempsey
Matthew Hayden
Ricky Ponting
Greg Chappell
Allan Border (c)
Steve Waugh
Adam Gilchrist (+)
Richard Hadlee
Shane Warne
Dennis Lillee
Glenn McGrath

Bob Simpson, Steve Smith, Kane Williamson, BJ Watling, Keith Miller, Alan Davidson, Clarrie Grimmett

Africa (SA/Zim)

Barry Richards
Graeme Smith (c)
Jacques Kallis
Graeme Pollock
AB de Villiers
Andy Flower (+)
Aubrey Faulkner
Shaun Pollock
Hugh Tayfield
Dale Steyn
Allan Donald

Gary Kirsten, Hashim Amla, Dudley Nourse, Eddie Barlow, Heath Streak, Paul Pollock, Bert Vogler

North Atlantic (Eng/WI)

Jack Hobbs (c)
Herbert Sutcliffe
George Headley
Wally Hammond
Garfield Sobers
Vivian Richards
Clyde Walcott (+)
Malcolm Marshall
Jim Laker
Curtly Ambrose
James Anderson

Gordon Greenidge, Denis Compton, Everton Weekes, Rohan Kanhai, Michael Holding, Ian Botham, Lance Gibbs

Yes I deliberately left Bradman off. Kind of cheating with Walcott and Hammond as keepers but I really don't care. I included Streak just because I didn't want it to be South Africa plus Flower.

I think North Atlantic would hold the edge given how much quality they have everywhere. Went with Compton as the back up allrounder due to Sobers' versatility.
 
Nightwatchmans XI

Eddie Hemmings
Harold Larwood
Jason Gillespie
Nasim Ul-Ghani
Mark Boucher (+)
Jack Russell
Alex Tudor
Tony Mann
Siyed Kirmani
Peter Taylor
Jack Leach
 
Steve Smith 1984 version...
Richard Austin WSC Windies player
Ken McEwan
Robbie Langer
Jeff Crows
Clive Rice
Peter Sleep
Roger Wolley
Garth Le Roux
Denis Hickey
Franklyn Stephenson
 
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