The off topic thread #2

[SM]

Also, good luck Jod, hope you get it!



Well, I can think of at least five films [Without mentioning Peter Pan, Sleeping Beauty, 101 Dalmatians, or Tarzan]; (The Little Mermaid, Aladdin, The Rescuers [This one if it is anything like Down Under, I think will be brilliantly done], Pocahontas (Redemption), and the Emperor's New Groove] that would be better suited.

The Lion King's big problem is well, it doesn't really have any 'human' elements, which I think would best highlight the LA format. Jungle Book meets the minimum requirements since the story focuses on Mowgli and his interactions with the animals. The Lion King is just all animals, and only that. Sure, they might do some fancy set pieces and some brill scenery, but I think it kinda misses the point on the reimagination front, which is, you want the CG element make it feel like it can be a part of the human element. You're going to get more of a connection with Mogwli then you are going to with Simba, and that's the magic of the reimgination of the movie comes in.

That why I think a film like Pete's Dragon benefits better from this reimgination then the Lion King.

Beauty and the Beast makes perfect sense as it is the right balance between human and CG elements, and I would say the next logical movie would either be The Little Mermaid or Aladdin from there.

Unless there is some other developments in story or characters that will be explored, I can't see how they will fully recapture the magic (also remembering that Lion King came out in 1994!)

Better suited? They just made a hugely successful - critically and commercially - live action movie focussed around creatures in The Jungle Book, why wouldn't the next logical step be their other hugely successful movie focussed around animals?

Don't think having no humans will be an issue. I don't think you'd get more connection with Mowgli. I thought Baloo and Bagira were done pretty well and there was enough depth to their characters.

 

[Jatz]

The Emperors New Groove is one of my all time favs.

 

[jod23]

The thing I dont like about the possible Lion King remake and where it differs to The Jungle Book is that the Jungle Book has been done to death. It also has source material which is Kipling's original book.

The book turned into the 1967 original animated version. Then there was the live action 1994 movie starting Jason Scott Lee. Then the 2014 animated version out of the Netherlands. Then finally this years 2016 version.

The Lion King has no source material. It's an original movie. It's also never been touched. It sits alone as a classic. Sure there was a shitty straight to DVD sequel that nobody cared about but apart from the sequel the original remains untouched.

I think they should leave it alone. But Hollywood gonna Hollywood.

 

[bok_party]

There's a kids show aswell called the lion pride I think

 

[Cooldude]

Lion Guard, I show that to my niece all the time, in fact I brainwash my niece with Disney coz I want her to turn out just like I am, coz I am awesome

 

[SM]

The thing I dont like about the possible Lion King remake and where it differs to The Jungle Book is that the Jungle Book has been done to death. It also has source material which is Kipling's original book.

The book turned into the 1967 original animated version. Then there was the live action 1994 movie starting Jason Scott Lee. Then the 2014 animated version out of the Netherlands. Then finally this years 2016 version.

The Lion King has no source material. It's an original movie. It's also never been touched. It sits alone as a classic. Sure there was a shitty straight to DVD sequel that nobody cared about but apart from the sequel the original remains untouched.

I think they should leave it alone. But Hollywood gonna Hollywood.

It's actually pretty similar to a 60s cartoon I think. And, y'know, the whole basing the plot on Hamlet.

So what are your thoughts on Beauty and the Beast?

 

[Art Vandelay_]

What a nice day off. Apart from the rain that is.
Playing my first ever werewolf game whilst Fox has a popup Star Wars channel for a nice marathon and chilling listening to some Fleetwood Mac for the last couple of hours.

Would love to go for a jog but yeah vic weather strikes again.

 

[SM]

What a nice day off. Apart from the rain that is.
Playing my first ever werewolf game whilst Fox has a popup Star Wars channel for a nice marathon and chilling listening to some Fleetwood Mac for the last couple of hours.

Would love to go for a jog but yeah vic weather strikes again.

Why don't you play on the SFA board?

 

[Art Vandelay_]

Why don't you play on the SFA board?

Well this is my introduction to it so I may from now on.

 

[Cruyff14]

What a nice day off. Apart from the rain that is.
Playing my first ever werewolf game whilst Fox has a popup Star Wars channel for a nice marathon and chilling listening to some Fleetwood Mac for the last couple of hours.

Would love to go for a jog but yeah vic weather strikes again.

Fleetwood Mac are great. Favourite song(s)?

 

[Art Vandelay_]

Fleetwood Mac are great. Favourite song(s)?

Seven Wonders, You make Lovin(g) Fun, Landslide.
So many more, could list a few from Rumors, Mirage and Tango in the Night albums in truth.

 

[Cruyff14]

Seven Wonders, You make Lovin(g) Fun, Landslide.
So many more, could list a few from Rumors, Mirage and Tango in the Night albums in truth.

They were awesome live.

 

[Art Vandelay_]

They were awesome live.

Was unfortunate the last time. Iirc they had Tuesday, Thursday and Friday night shows at Rod Laver.
Was out of the state for the Tuesday and Thursday shows. Was at an engagement party for the Friday show.

They were later added late to the line up for A Day on the Green in Geelong but being a Saturday event I had not bothered to get a ticket knowing I'd be playing cricket (wouldn't have bought one with them not playing). So unlucky.

 

[Cruyff14]

Nah, it was on the Monday before Cup Day. And definitely a Friday.

 

[Quivorir]

You dirty liar Doctor Gero

 

[Art Vandelay_]

You dirty liar Doctor Gero

About what exactly Quiverwhore?

 

[BluesMan]

StevieDewar forgot to mention how good our girl was... Montaigne is queen, what a voice.

Just listened to Sticky Fingers new album, went in with lowish expectations, came out thrilled. Really loved it

 

[Loonerty]

Montaigne is playing at my uni next Friday. $20. Worth?

 

[Quivorir]

The dates above.

 

[Art Vandelay_]

 

[BluesMan]

Montaigne is playing at my uni next Friday. $20. Worth?

So worth it, was only 20 for me also. The theatrics in her voice are crazy, and its better live

 

[jod23]

It's actually pretty similar to a 60s cartoon I think. And, y'know, the whole basing the plot on Hamlet.

So what are your thoughts on Beauty and the Beast?

Wasnt keen on that either but it's going ahead. I grew up on The Lion King, Beauty and the Beast, Aladdin, The Little Mermaid etc... I want them untouched.

Emma Watson though.

 

[Fryer Tuck]

Better suited? They just made a hugely successful - critically and commercially - live action movie focussed around creatures in The Jungle Book, why wouldn't the next logical step be their other hugely successful movie focussed around animals?

Don't think having no humans will be an issue. I don't think you'd get more connection with Mowgli. I thought Baloo and Bagira were done pretty well and there was enough depth to their characters.

Commercial success was always going to be the easy part, they will at least get the Kudos for making the story better from a film that is really only known for their characters and songs rather then anything else about it. I can see why they would do the Jungle Book for a live action version, and they did a good job in combining both elements. Lion King will need a lot more going for it Live Action Wise to make people think more of it.

That's why Beauty and the Beast as well as Aladdin would be better logical steps.

That's pretty much where the magic of the medium comes from, seeing humans interact with animals that fits in well with the environment, there's a certain element about it:


I don't think it will work quite as well with the animal dominated Lion King.

It's actually pretty similar to a 60s cartoon I think. And, y'know, the whole basing the plot on Hamlet.

So what are your thoughts on Beauty and the Beast?

Ha ha, Kimba the White Lion:


Fun Fact: Matthew Broadrick was convinced he was doing the Disney Adaptation of Kimba, so much so that he thought the name of his character was Kimba.

There are some notable similarities from characters to events, though as noted, The Lion King is basically Hamlet as done by the animal kingdom.

 

[WealstoneRaider]

I've never seen the Lion King. Was around 20 when it was released and wasn't interested in going to watch Disney films at that age. It's rarely on TV (as the same with most Disney films) and never caught it when it has.

 

[jod23]

I've never seen the Lion King. Was around 20 when it was released and wasn't interested in going to watch Disney films at that age. It's rarely on TV (as the same with most Disney films) and never caught it when it has.