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Well he's taken umbrage to being called a leftie, when I thought he was the proudest socialist on here! I'm genuinely taken abackWR-SM is the new Jatz-SM
Which in my eyes is taking them to a level that is far worse than publishing a list of names. The a league fans as a whole are mild and well mannered. Shame the one side who isn't so mild has a % of fans that are completely what is wrong with society. Any % is too high so even if it is 5% who partake it's 5 too many!
Well he's taken umbrage to being called a leftie, when I thought he was the proudest socialist on here! I'm genuinely taken aback
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WR-SM is the new Jatz-SM
And surely societies wellbeing, and that of a functioning democracy, is an individuals right to a fair trial, the presumption of innocence and a sense of justice for victims of a crime. A justice that is the responsibility of the judicial system to administer, not at the hands of a mob or a lone wolf that have got their hands on a list of criminals and feel it is their own prerogative to deal out the justice that they see fit, and not one in the best interests of society or the victims themselves.Unfortunately mistakes happen - you can only try to limit them and put things right afterwards. What mustn't be compromised though is societies well being as a whole - and that's probably what this woman thought she was doing publishing this list. You have to protect the victims of crime and not be a wishy-washy liberal about it by placing barriers that will only benefit the crim's
Shut up you crazy lefty.
And surely societies wellbeing, and that of a functioning democracy, is an individuals right to a fair trial, the presumption of innocence and a sense of justice for victims of a crime. A justice that is the responsibility of the judicial system to administer, not at the hands of a mob or a lone wolf that have got their hands on a list of criminals and feel it is their own prerogative to deal out the justice that they see fit, and not one in the best interests of society or the victims themselves.
Those things are surely independent of whatever side of the political fence you prefer and are instead tenets of a successful democracy.
I'll continue to disturb you more then.
I agree - was just putting the other point out as I was getting fed up with SM's typically soft, naive, liberal stance. Truth is there is a balance that needs to be struckAnd surely societies wellbeing, and that of a functioning democracy, is an individuals right to a fair trial, the presumption of innocence and a sense of justice for victims of a crime. A justice that is the responsibility of the judicial system to administer, not at the hands of a mob or a lone wolf that have got their hands on a list of criminals and feel it is their own prerogative to deal out the justice that they see fit, and not one in the best interests of society or the victims themselves.
Those things are surely independent of whatever side of the political fence you prefer and are instead tenets of a successful democracy.



I think you've lost the plot. Stop trying so hard to twist everything and we might get somewhereI find it amazing that someone has come into a discussion having admitted he has 2/5ths of **** all knowledge about the subject matter and is trying to cast aspersions and defend a criminal act by having a go at someone else claiming that they're... defending a criminal act.
I think you've lost the plot. Stop trying so hard to twist everything and we might get somewhere
Low blow. I actually think your car accident might have damaged your brain. You seem incapable of logical discussion and seem to entirely forget about statements you made previously. I've noticed it a lot with you recentlyI don't think I'm the one that's lost the plot mate. Think that vampire bite did more damage to you than initially thought.
Tory voter or more likely UKIP.Is WelchstoneRaider a Liberal voter?
Typical, the Libs can't keep their word either.
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Low blow. I actually think your car accident might have damaged your brain. You seem incapable of logical discussion and seem to entirely forget about statements you made previously. I've noticed it a lot with you recently

Vampire and car accident
15-15 first set!
I haven't even been in a car accident though haha, he's losing it.
I voted strategically to keep Labour out of my borough - so UKIPTory voter or more likely UKIP.