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So when you said we should all hug and hold hands and accept each other's different opinions, you mean what?
Gotta be singing kumbaya
 
What ones has he backed out of? I think he's relented on using torture after military advice but not aware of any others.
All it takes is to google the words "Trump campaign promises backed out" and you will find a list. The irony of this is that it's actually a good thing he hasn't gone through with them. The Muslim ban is the obvious one which was shown to be unconstitutional before the election and has (surprise surprise) been blocked by various judges.

He has debunked most of the shit being flung at him. None of it has stuck. As I said it's spin, and as he isn't experienced in the political field he's not playing by their rules. Some (like you) think that's a bad thing, others (like me) who are fed up with the way politicians spin shit anyway are quite enjoying this new approach. I don't think it will last but I'd say just sit back and enjoy the show - we've not seen anything like it before.
I don't want politics to be a "show" or for entertainment. That's the reason why we want experienced, educated professionals in politics, because they know what they are doing, as the lives of millions of people depend on their decisions.

I didn't dismiss it, I said it was spin. What I find funny though is your, as a so-called liberal minded person, objection to anyone who supports Trump. Ironically, that's pretty narrow-minded.
You dismissed it by saying it was spin, the two are congruous.

I don't have an objection to people who support Trump, I disagree with their justification for their support of Trump and their justifications for his actions which is what I am arguing with you. If you could justify your position in supporting Trump to a satisfactory degree I would accept that, however I disagree with almost everything you say on the topic.
 

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It's occurred to me in recent weeks that despite their choice in football team, most of the Arsenal-supporting members of this board really are excellent posters tbh.

It's frustrating because it makes me not dislike most of you like I so desperately want to. :p

Best set of fans in terms of posters IMO, with us Reds just behind them ;)
 
All it takes is to google the words "Trump campaign promises backed out" and you will find a list. The irony of this is that it's actually a good thing he hasn't gone through with them. The Muslim ban is the obvious one which was shown to be unconstitutional before the election and has (surprise surprise) been blocked by various judges.
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Once his nomination Judge Gorsuch has been appointed to the Supreme Court then he will get things pushed through, so the so-called "muslim ban" will not get blocked - it's more on hold. Lets also remember that Obama banned refugees from Iraq for six months in 2011 before you start claiming this ban as unconstitutional.

I don't want politics to be a "show" or for entertainment. That's the reason why we want experienced, educated professionals in politics, because they know what they are doing, as the lives of millions of people depend on their decisions.

Trump was elected President - that's the only thing that counts. The electorate believed him to be the right man, and therefore have the credentials you state to take the country forward. That's democracy.

You dismissed it by saying it was spin, the two are congruous.

I don't have an objection to people who support Trump, I disagree with their justification for their support of Trump and their justifications for his actions which is what I am arguing with you. If you could justify your position in supporting Trump to a satisfactory degree I would accept that, however I disagree with almost everything you say on the topic.

I've never explicably said why I support Trump on here, so I'm unsure how you can argue against my justifications for doing so. Politics will always divide opnion though, but at least have some form of debate before you judge someone because of their political ideal
 
Once his nomination Judge Gorsuch has been appointed to the Supreme Court then he will get things pushed through, so the so-called "muslim ban" will not get blocked - it's more on hold. Lets also remember that Obama banned refugees from Iraq for six months in 2011 before you start claiming this ban as unconstitutional.
That is incorrect. Obama never banned refugees from entering, he changed the process which still allowed them to enter although through a more complex screening process. Trump has banned anyone from 7 countries from even attempting to enter the US. They are very different.

Trump was elected President - that's the only thing that counts. The electorate believed him to be the right man, and therefore have the credentials you state to take the country forward. That's democracy.
It's also democracy for people to publicly state they think it was a mistake, and for the press to criticise the president, and for the democrats to criticise the president, and for the public to criticise the president. Just because he is elected president does not mean he is immune from criticism. The entire concept behind the role of being president is to represent ALL of the people, not just the ones that voted for you. He is not above society, and he should be held to a higher standard because of his position.

I've never explicably said why I support Trump on here, so I'm unsure how you can argue against my justifications for doing so. Politics will always divide opnion though, but at least have some form of debate before you judge someone because of their political ideal
I can only make judgement on the evidence provided, so don't criticise me for the way I judge you as a Trump supporter if you withhold your reasons for supporting him. Based on what you have posted here I disagree with your justification, and that's all you can reasonably expect me to do.
 
Once his nomination Judge Gorsuch has been appointed to the Supreme Court then he will get things pushed through, so the so-called "muslim ban" will not get blocked - it's more on hold. Lets also remember that Obama banned refugees from Iraq for six months in 2011 before you start claiming this ban as unconstitutional.



Trump was elected President - that's the only thing that counts. The electorate believed him to be the right man, and therefore have the credentials you state to take the country forward. That's democracy.



I've never explicably said why I support Trump on here, so I'm unsure how you can argue against my justifications for doing so. Politics will always divide opnion though, but at least have some form of debate before you judge someone because of their political ideal

Doesn't Gorsuch also oppose the ban?
 
I'm pretty sure welly is a trump fan for his beautiful business mind and how he handled Trump Tahj Mahal. If a casino can rack up $3b worth of debt in a year then its owner is definitely the man to lead a country
 
I recently bought Quantum Leap and Deadwood on BluRay from Amazon.com. Pretty pumped about re-watching both these great series again. I still have QL on DVD but couldn't resist not upgrading to HD. It will be several years since I've seen either of them.

Has anyone watch either or both of them? Highly recommended if not.


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I recently bought Quantum Leap and Deadwood on BluRay from Amazon.com. Pretty pumped about re-watching both these great series again. I still have QL on DVD but couldn't resist not upgrading to HD. It will be several years since I've seen either of them.

Has anyone watch either or both of them? Highly recommended if not.


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Deadwood is awesome. Criminal that it didn't get a proper ending, the movie rumours never seem to amount to anything.
 
Deadwood is awesome. Criminal that it didn't get a proper ending, the movie rumours never seem to amount to anything.

It's a shame they've kept it so long, might even be too late at this stage. The cast are more than likely all busy and Ian McShane is turning 75 with not even a movie script sight. Not saying he can't step back into the role (he is a badass actor after all) but the older he gets, the harder it is.


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It's occurred to me in recent weeks that despite their choice in football team, most of the Arsenal-supporting members of this board really are excellent posters tbh.

It's frustrating because it makes me not dislike most of you like I so desperately want to. :p
Thanks mate. :thumbsu:

Record collecting is kind of my hobby. Time consuming and expensive, but the rewards for digging through crates for hours and finding a gem are worth it :D
My old man has about 300. What's your most prized?

I have a signed Born To Run in frame. Definitely the favourite thing I own.

Sheeran's album's good, like the last one better but this one's a solid effort with something different
I can't get into Ed. A-Team was good, and while he is talented, he's just a bit blah. I personally think he doesn't know what he wants to be, so just tries and meshes all different music together.
 

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I can't get into Ed. A-Team was good, and while he is talented, he's just a bit blah. I personally think he doesn't know what he wants to be, so just tries and meshes all different music together.

He is very watered down but that's probably why I like him, just a good variety. I'm not a fan of his rapping, but he does that cheesy ballad thing well, but you can't really do that for a whole album and sell nowadays.

Funny you said that coz the latest album has a ridiculous amount of styles in it, which I don't necessarily mind. I think people like Sheeran because anyone who can play an instrument and actually sing is better than those ****ing button pressing DJ no talent campaigners like Chainsmokers
 
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