Mega Thread The Official Bigfooty NBA Week 5 Thread - Where's Kyrie?

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What a load of garbage. Irving was 23 about the same as as the Knicks current first round pick.

He hit the championship winning shot and is very good as basketball.
Of course. Then got the sack to up and run to another team rather than run it back. Not reliable. Not sure why this is difficult to understand?
 

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4 seemed to work alright at the dubs. 5 with a fit boogie.
Boogie rarely played, Steph and Klay aren't ball dominant and Green is more like Rodman. KD wasn't fighting for possessions, left when personalities clashed. 80s Lakers and Celtics and 90s Bulls are a better example of "working"
 

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Won't be hitting championship winning threes or have the best handles on earth. Probably not doing key figure forums on social justice either.

Just some dumb flog talking meme worthy rubbish
My friend, you are a classic example of contemporary basketball fandom of highlights basketball. How many chips does Kyrie have without Bron? How many does Bron have without Kyrie? That's why he is not welcome in Lakerland.
 

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No, that they were a better basketball fit than Nets. Simple connection really...
Kd and harden and two of the best offensive players in history and in one game look alright together.

Irving is in a boat not too far behind and if he gets right and is happy being the third option they could do a lot of damage.
 

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My friend, you are a classic example of contemporary basketball fandom of highlights basketball. How many chips does Kyrie have without Bron? How many does Bron have without Kyrie? That's why he is not welcome in Lakerland.
With respect what a bizarre combination of words. Kyrie is 8 years younger and not in the goat convo. No one is arguing he is as good as james. Yet the generally anti irving narrative is underestimating him imo.

He is probably very capable of contributions to success with players of the quality of harden and durant.

Like he did with love and james.

Assuming brooklyn keep him like they probably will as he helped build the roster - they will probably trade or get FAgents to help round out the 5 and bench..
 

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Kd and harden and two of the best offensive players in history and in one game look alright together.

Irving is in a boat not too far behind and if he gets right and is happy being the third option they could do a lot of damage.
You are not getting it, MP. There is only one basketball. Kyrie, Harden and KD all want it because dribble like this want the highlights. Dubs were brilliantly unselfish because the moved WITHOUT the basketball and shot the lights out while having a killer to finish the game. They won without KD too.

Nets will struggle unless KD is the alpha male. He is top 2 or 3 in the game while Kyrie and Harden are highlight factories. Harden is actually really boring to watch.

Bottom line. Kyrie would be bad for the Lakers.
 

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You are not getting it, MP. There is only one basketball. Kyrie, Harden and KD all want it because dribble like this want the highlights. Dubs were brilliantly unselfish because the moved WITHOUT the basketball and shot the lights out while having a killer to finish the game. They won without KD too.

Nets will struggle unless KD is the alpha male. He is top 2 or 3 in the game while Kyrie and Harden are highlight factories. Harden is actually really boring to watch.

Bottom line. Kyrie would be bad for the Lakers.
They warriors were going to lose to the rockets before the cp3 happy snapped.

They should have spammed the curry kd pick and roll in stead of trying to play pretty passing game
 

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With respect what a bizarre combination of words. Kyrie is 8 years younger and not in the goat convo. No one is arguing he is as good as james. Yet the generally anti irving narrative is underestimating him imo.

He is probably very capable of contributions to success with players of the quality of harden and durant.

Like he did with love and james.

Assuming brooklyn keep him like they probably will as he helped build the roster - they will probably trade or get FAgents to help round out the 5 and bench..
And then ran because he wanted to be the man and didn't want to be a sidekick. The "bizarre combination" you refer to proves that Bron knows how to develop successful outcomes, not that he is necessarily better or worse individually. Look beyond the highlight reel.
 

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They warriors were going to lose to the rockets before the cp3 happy snapped.

They should have spammed the curry kd pick and roll in stead of trying to play pretty passing game
That's a supposition. Sliding doors don't prove anything. CP is an injury waiting to happen anyway. I'd have backed the championship level defence to hold up and beat the Brickets who always choke in the big games.

Pick and roll highlight flogging. Lakers played very little pick and roll last year and won. Triangle killed everybody when it had the right talent.
 

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Phoenix postponed 3 games because they played the Wizards

Now there's COVID issues with the Grizzlies... hopefully it's postponed so we don't end up postponing another week of games.
 

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It existed cause kd took afairlu big pay cut to join. Either way it's proof it works.

Thru had the ability to max kd and the end too. And keep the big 4. But kd had enough.
It works if the styles work. Dubs are an anomaly because of Steph salary making them deep as hell and the salary cap bump allowed them to sign KD. They were completely unselfish personalities, particularly Steph. 2 time MVP, once unanimous, who took less times and shots to fit KD in so the team could continue to win. When given the same opportunity, Kyrie ran. That's why Bron wouldn't want him.

Big 3s have always worked: Russell Cousey and Jones, Bird Michael Parish, Magic Karen Worthy, Bron Wade Bosh, when the styles and personalities work.
 

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It works if the styles work. Dubs are an anomaly because of Steph salary making them deep as hell and the salary cap bump allowed them to sign KD. They were completely unselfish personalities, particularly Steph. 2 time MVP, once unanimous, who took less times and shots to fit KD in so the team could continue to win. When given the same opportunity, Kyrie ran. That's why Bron wouldn't want him.

Big 3s have always worked: Russell Cousey and Jones, Bird Michael Parish, Magic Karen Worthy, Bron Wade Bosh, when the styles and personalities work.
Even after the curry supermax they were able to sign all of the big 4 on max deals. Under nba rules and the owners being happy to.

It didn't happen cause kd wanted out.

My understanding is the nets blokes are mates and they are great players. It will likely work
 

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Even after the curry supermax they were able to sign all of the big 4 on max deals. Under nba rules and the owners being happy to.

It didn't happen cause kd wanted out.

My understanding is the nets blokes are mates and they are great players. It will likely work
They all signed, Green for less than the max, but it cost them their primary weapon, Strength in Numbers. Westbrook and Harden were mates, how'd that go?

It's about how their styles mesh. They are all ball dominant. It will take miracle worker to get them to fit. That's why Pop stayed away. Nash is unproven and seems to have a roll the ball out approach.

Not gonna' be able to do it - J Rose.
 

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Kyrie was only compatible with Bron then because he was a perennial loser who was elevated by Bron.
lol. He'd played 3 seasons before LeBron got there. I guess LeBron was a "perennial loser" as well being that he made the playoffs only once in his first three seasons.

MJ too. Never had a 500 record in his first 3 seasons. Total of 1 playoff game win. And he was 2 years older.
 

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Another triple by Doncic and another loss...

Cuban its time to go all in and get Beal or Lavine.
We're missing 6 of our best 8 rotation players, plus KP coming back from a big lay off.
Definitely not the game to making rash decisions about.

Let's see what we look like once we get our full squad together.
 

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lol. He'd played 3 seasons before LeBron got there. I guess LeBron was a "perennial loser" as well being that he made the playoffs only once in his first three seasons.

MJ too. Never had a 500 record in his first 3 seasons. Total of 1 playoff game win. And he was 2 years older.
Then Bron made the finals in 07 with what has been labelled the worst tram ever to make the finals.

Anyway, this was never meant to be a Bron v Kyrie debate, just a rebuttal on why Bron wouldn't want Kyrie to be a Laker.

I'm sure you watched MJ doc, Chicago sucked before he got there, blah...
 

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Then Bron made the finals in 07 with what has been labelled the worst tram ever to make the finals.

Anyway, this was never meant to be a Bron v Kyrie debate, just a rebuttal on why Bron wouldn't want Kyrie to be a Laker.

I'm sure you watched MJ doc, Chicago sucked before he got there, blah...
Probably the only one to be fair
 
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