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I'd like to congratulate Brad on our biggest ever loss to Freo.

This to back up his round 1 biggest loss to Adelaide

And to go alongside such honours as:

Biggest losses to Collingwood and West Coast (which was a final)

But we finally got there it took us 141 years but we managed to get beaten by 100 points against St Kilda.

Fun doesn't stop there though because we can go a couple of years better, it took 143 years to be beaten by 100 points by Hawthorn.

This bloke needs to win us a flag.
Mate, do you think dropping every player and sacking the coach will mean we win the next ten flags? Because that's what it sounds like you're saying.
 

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Mate, do you think dropping every player and sacking the coach will mean we win the next ten flags? Because that's what it sounds like you're saying.
I have at no point said sack the coach.

Nor have I called for more than a couple of people to be dropped.

What I have said is that there is issues with the way the team is selected.

There is the backing of some players and the ignoring of others VFL form.

And that Brad has over seen the some of the biggest losses in our history, so we are getting beaten more badly than we ever has so I hope like f*** that there is something around the corner that makes these losses worth it.

I believed, I really did, but we just keep on racking up shitful losses.
 

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I have at no point said sack the coach.

Nor have I called for more than a couple of people to be dropped.

What I have said is that there is issues with the way the team is selected.

There is the backing of some players and the ignoring of others VFL form.

And that Brad has over seen the some of the biggest losses in our history, so we are getting beaten more badly than we ever has so I hope like f*** that there is something around the corner that makes these losses worth it.

I believed, I really did, but we just keep on racking up shitful losses.
Whose VFL form are we ignoring?
 

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Look I don't know what yous turkeys are on about - if we sack Scott and drop 16 players we will win this years premiership. If we sack Scott we will definately get a much better coach. Sacking a coach has worked well - just ask the Tigers. Sacking = flag - I know this as a fact. You need to get more serious and start to hate your life after each loss as that is the best way to turn the club around. Now come on turkeys - shake your fists at the TV and make an angry mad dog face.
Sack, angry, drop players, mad dog and we will win every flag forever. As long as we sack, get angry, drop players and mad dog every year.
Exactly. Winning isn't a priority. Having my Mrs slurp my 2 inch knob in sympathy is. :stern look
 

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McMahon, Daw and Mullett.

Liam Anthony and Ayden Kennedy before that.
You act like its fantasy that this has happend. It is consistent year on year.

Dumont and Wood for large parts of last year.

Greenwood for large parts of the year before.

Blokes are carried because they can on occasion choose to implement the game plan better than others. But it should be on them and they back up next week so its no problem that they'll have another shitful performance in the next 6 weeks.
 

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Wood has shown a bit of potential. But he is a long way off it. If he is not ready now - he wasn't ready last year.
Geez yeah he looked really out of it last year when he finally got to play.

And wow the other kids that we brought in weren't able to play any sort of meaningful role at all.

What if Black had Sugery last june when he needed it?

We'd have a fit Black in the side now.
 

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Right now Majak.

But it is relatively consistent.

Wood put up better numbers than Black ever had and got 1 game last year.
That is your outside view. The fact they played Brown and Turner in finals kind of debunks the favourites myth.

Great that Maj has got form, he will get his opportunity. Brad has shown previously he will give him his chance.
 

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That is your outside view.
THat Wood had better numbers than Black? My view, the stats view.

The fact they played Brown and Turner in finals kind of debunks the favourites myth.
Brown you mean the guy who was huge in finals and then left out in round 1?



Great that Maj has got form, he will get his opportunity. Brad has shown previously he will give him his chance.
He'll get his chance......

Unless waite comes up.
 

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THat Wood had better numbers than Black? My view, the stats view.



Brown you mean the guy who was huge in finals and then left out in round 1?





He'll get his chance......

Unless waite comes up.
there is never full endorsement of the changes on bigfooty (not just our board). Suggesting that scott ignores players demanding a game is not true IMO and most players have been given an opportunity.

My problem with his selection decisions is Jacobs. The guy can't handle pressure and will be found out again and again when the pressure is on. But then again, his VFL stats are killer.
 

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I'd like to congratulate Brad on our biggest ever loss to Freo.

This to back up his round 1 biggest loss to Adelaide

And to go alongside such honours as:

Biggest losses to Collingwood and West Coast (which was a final)

But we finally got there it took us 141 years but we managed to get beaten by 100 points against St Kilda.

Fun doesn't stop there though because we can go a couple of years better, it took 143 years to be beaten by 100 points by Hawthorn.

This bloke needs to win us a flag.
Last night was the 180th time NMFC lost a game by 10 goals or more. The club has played 1880 games so that's 9.57% of games resulting in a 10 goal loss.
Last night was the 15th time NMFC lost a game by 10 goals or more under Brad Scott. He's coached 122 games so that's 12.30% of his games resulting in 10 goal loss.
Only John Kennedy coached NMFC to more 10 goal losses than Brad Scott.

Coaches who have coached NMFC for >50 games and their 10 goal losses
Paddy Scanlon (1935-37) 54 games - 12 10 goal losses = 22.22%
Bob McCaskill (1941-47) 102 games - 3 10 goal losses = 2.94%
Wally Carter (1948-62) 208 games - 11 10 goal losses = 5.29%
Allan Killigrew (1963-66) 70 games - 5 10 goal losses = 7.14%
Keith McKenzie (1967-1970) 82 games - 9 10 goal losses = 10.98%
Ron Barassi (1973-80) 198 games - 2 10 goal losses = 1.01%
Barry Cable (1981-84) 76 games - 6 10 goal losses = 7.89%
John Kennedy (1985-89) 113 games - 16 10 goal losses = 14.16%
Wayne Schimmelbusch (1990-92) 66 games - 10 10 goal losses = 15.15%
Denis Pagan (1993-2002) 240 games - 14 10 goal losses = 5.83%
Dean Laidley (2003-09) 149 games - 14 10 goal losses = 9.40%
Brad Scott (2010- ) 122 games - 15 10 goal losses = 12.30%

Not sure if anything can be read into these stats, the coaches and their team. They are what they are. The Schimma/Kanga era surprises me. The Barassi era must have been remarkable for consistent competitiveness (There were 4 losses between 50-60pts. NMFC didn't lose a game by 50+ for 128 games between R7, 1973 and R9, 1978).
 

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Wood has shown a bit of potential. But he is a long way off it. If he is not ready now - he wasn't ready last year.
Nobody is ever 100% sure if a player is completely ready and to be frank it's very rare for a young guy to come in and begin dominating from the get-go. Most players and quite often the very good one's as well require significant time to get up to AFL speed. The notion of a player "isn't ready" based off only a handful games as credible evidence of not being up to it isn't entirely accurate.
 

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My problem with his selection decisions is Jacobs. The guy can't handle pressure and will be found out again and again when the pressure is on. But then again, his VFL stats are killer.
The majority of our team get found out when the pressure is on, which has been well and truly proven over the last nine weeks. The majority of our team is more experienced than Jacobs, so why does he always cop the stick?

Regardless, it's not about dominating VFL. It's about setting standards. I'd be happy for Max Warren to get a game in the seniors just based on him doing his job in the twos and doing team things, because it would illustrate the non-negotiables which are seemingly very negotiable right now. I'd be equally happy for someone other than Jacobs/Wright/Wood/Nahas to get dropped too, because again it would send a message that players aren't safe and comfortable in the seniors.

You don't have to drop half the side at all, but you can't argue that our VFL/AFL promotion/demotion under Scott has been very predictable, and many players in the seniors quite clearly aren't held to account for poor displays.
 
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Last night was the 180th time NMFC lost a game by 10 goals or more. The club has played 1880 games so that's 9.57% of games resulting in a 10 goal loss.
Last night was the 15th time NMFC lost a game by 10 goals or more under Brad Scott. He's coached 122 games so that's 12.30% of his games resulting in 10 goal loss.
Only John Kennedy coached NMFC to more 10 goal losses than Brad Scott.

Coaches who have coached NMFC for >50 games and their 10 goal losses
Paddy Scanlon (1935-37) 54 games - 12 10 goal losses = 22.22%
Bob McCaskill (1941-47) 102 games - 3 10 goal losses = 2.94%
Wally Carter (1948-62) 208 games - 11 10 goal losses = 5.29%
Allan Killigrew (1963-66) 70 games - 5 10 goal losses = 7.14%
Keith McKenzie (1967-1970) 82 games - 9 10 goal losses = 10.98%
Ron Barassi (1973-80) 198 games - 2 10 goal losses = 1.01%
Barry Cable (1981-84) 76 games - 6 10 goal losses = 7.89%
John Kennedy (1985-89) 113 games - 16 10 goal losses = 14.16%
Wayne Schimmelbusch (1990-92) 66 games - 10 10 goal losses = 15.15%
Denis Pagan (1993-2002) 240 games - 14 10 goal losses = 5.83%
Dean Laidley (2003-09) 149 games - 14 10 goal losses = 9.40%
Brad Scott (2010- ) 122 games - 15 10 goal losses = 12.30%

Not sure if anything can be read into these stats, the coaches and their team. They are what they are. The Schimma/Kanga era surprises me. The Barassi era must have been remarkable for consistent competitiveness (There were 4 losses between 50-60pts. NMFC didn't lose a game by 50+ for 128 games between R7, 1973 and R9, 1978).
In his 122 games, Brad Scott has coached for 57 losses so roughly a quarter of the times his side loses they lose by 10 goals.

Schimma lost 35 games so his 10 goal losses are about 30% of his losses.

Mckenzie lost 57 games so his 10 goal losses are just under 15%.

There is a problem.
 
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And here is the comparison of the players who played for each team on Saturday:

Total games between all players
Fremantle 2,855
NM 2,676

Average age of players
Fremantle 26 years 339 days
NM 26 years 160 days

200 gamers
Fremantle 5
NM 3

100 gamers
Fremantle: 13
NM: 12

50 games or less
Fremantle 2
NM 4

Career goals
Fremantle 2064
NM 2132

200 goals or more players
Fremantle 1
NM 4

100 goals or less players
Fremantle 16
NM 16
 

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Changes v pies:

Out. Jacobs
In. Turner

That will be the sum of the changes made by b Scott and this imaginary match committee...

Oh unless Waite doesn't get up, then we will bring in Black who is under done and not performing as well as Maj, or maybe BBB will be ok :confused:
 

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This coach is killing my love for the Roos. Last year I dropped my membership from Schimma to Archer. Next year it will be Archer to GA. If they reappoint Scott next year it will be GA to no membership.

Scott is the Passion Killer
 

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In his 122 games, Brad Scott has coached for 57 losses so roughly a quarter of the times his side loses they lose by 10 goals.

Schimma lost 35 games so his 10 goal losses are about 30% of his losses.

Mckenzie lost 57 games so his 10 goal losses are just under 15%.

There is a problem.
About a quarter hey you what that means?

For the kids playing along at home that means that we get to watch two more ten goal floggings this very year.

I for one can't wait.

But it's not Scott's fault It's on the players.
 
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