The Official Western Conference Oh God Who The Hell Do I Go For Finals Thread

[2006_Eagles]

What did he have to say post game?

Saying Durant shouldn't leave because Sonics have the most talent in the league

See how mad Kev got when Robertson passed up the most wide open three of the whole playoffs?

he mad

 

[QuietB]

Three-point shooting in the games Golden State won:

Thunder - 30/103 @ 0.291
Warriors - 60/134 @ 0.448

Curry - 21/42 @ 0.500
Thompson - 21/46 @ 0.457

There's your difference - OKC could have played so much smarter rather than jacking up s**t that their opponent does so much better.

Is it actually possible to beat a team that is capable of scoring that many 3's at that percentage unless you do the same thing yourself?

Going by the above stats, GSW are scoring 45pts per game at a shooting percentage that the opposition can't even match from the paint.

So they are basically scoring 50% more points than you for say half their shots at the same shooting percentage. Adjusted to include 2pt shots GWS are scoring maybe 20-25% more points from each shot than their opposition without losing anything on shooting percentage.

From a statistics point of view it is not possible to beat that.

 

[2006_Eagles]

Is it actually possible to beat a team that is capable of scoring that many 3's at that percentage unless you do the same thing yourself?

Going by the above stats, GSW are scoring 45pts per game at a shooting percentage that the opposition can't even match from the paint.

So they are basically scoring 50% more points than you for say half their shots at the same shooting percentage. Adjusted to include 2pt shots GWS are scoring maybe 20-25% more points from each shot than their opposition without losing anything on shooting percentage.

From a statistics point of view it is not possible to beat that.

All time talent pisses on your measley 'statistics'

 

[QuietB]

All time talent pisses on your measley 'statistics'

wat

 

[tigs2010]

This thread will be funny when Warriors win in 7

 

[2006_Eagles]

wat

Lol I was trying to say something along the lines of you can throw away statistical probabilities as a means of determining an outcome when you have all time shooters like Klay and Steph

 

[calyam]

Is it actually possible to beat a team that is capable of scoring that many 3's at that percentage unless you do the same thing yourself?

If any team is capable of hitting that many threes, at a similar percentage, it's the Cavs. Until today's game they were not only leading the league in 3-point makes, despite playing fewer games, but also percentage. So far they are hitting 43% of their 3-point shots on unprecedented volumes.

 

[kozi]

This thread will be funny when Warriors win in 7

 

[Westy Bogan]

Dion Waiters +7 for the game....

Not sure why you would ever take him out of the game... EVER

Max player?

 

[bourbons]

See how mad Kev got when Robertson passed up the most wide open three of the whole playoffs?

he mad

Yeah that was just weird, been shooting the 3 surprisingly well and that was prob his easiest look all series when they really needed one, instead passed it straight to someone being guarded. Like most of his team in the 2nd half, that didn't look great mentally.

 

[Primetime Pricey]

Dion Waiters +7 for the game....

Not sure why you would ever take him out of the game... EVER

Max player?

lol Westy

 

[PP34]

Anyone else get the feeling that the Durant we saw the past three games is a different prospect to that MVP one?

 

[Look2Me4Guidance]

Must be nice seeing Green celebrating hey haters?

Gerald?

GG Dubs. Proved a great team will never go away.

Had so many chances to win the series which hurts the most.

But bring on next season. With the improvement of Roberson, Waiters, Adams, Payne,etc. hopefully we'll back up better than the 2012 finals. (With no injuries fingers crossed).

The improvement they need to come is mentally and sadly it never will.

Superb stuff Dubs. Hat tipped

 

[FreoRicci]

Anyone else get the feeling that the Durant we saw the past three games is a different prospect to that MVP one?

Big time. Couldn't get open shots and when he shot 3s was often contested or off balanced. Westbrook clearly has the game made for playoffs atm.

 

[stewie griffen]

Big time. Couldn't get open shots and when he shot 3s was often contested or off balanced. Westbrook clearly has the game made for playoffs atm.

I call bullshit

Rusty has the game made for making his coach commit suicide

 

[stewie griffen]

Because Pricey is a premature campaigner, the thread is here, but the OP is bare

https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/the-official-james-jones-6-in-a-row-finals-thread.1134240/

Go nuts

 

[kozi]

Anyone else get the feeling that the Durant we saw the past three games is a different prospect to that MVP one?

He was the man during his MVP season. For the last two he has been playing second fiddle to Wesbrook. That kind of change has a big effect on the mentality and therefore the performance of any player. He's still brilliant, but the difference is it's more so in patches these days whereas in 2013/2014 it was consistent almost every minute he was on the floor. Westbrook averaged his lowest PPG in the last 6 years that season which shows how much of a backseat he was taking to KD night in night out.

It's a shame they couldn't work out how to share the load without either of them having to be dominant over the other. However that side of the story starts and ends with W'brook and his alpha male mentality. The ball starts in his hands so he's the one dictating who takes the shots. Last season he attempted 5 more shots per game which should never have happened if OKC were serious about winning the title. This season it was about even which is better but still not good enough as KD should obviously be the one taking more shots. It appears no coach will ever have any meaningful influence over the situation. This is the main reason why imo we've just seen KD's last game for OKC.

 

[QuietB]

Lol I was trying to say something along the lines of you can throw away statistical probabilities as a means of determining an outcome when you have all time shooters like Klay and Steph

But that is kind of the point I am making, Steph and Klay are shooting at the same percentage as everyone else on the floor but they are doing it from anywhere on the floor. No one can compete with that.

Yesteryear coaches would accept sub 40% 3 point shooting because they knew the extra point was worth it. Even low 30's% was ok as it was equivalent to high 40's% shooting. Steph is 44.3% career shooting from the 3pt line which is equivalent to 66.5% shooting with the extra point. Klay is 42% which is equivalent to 62% shooting.

To put Steph's 3pt shooting % in perspective;

Kobe career shooting % was 44.7% (32.9% from 3pt)
Jordan's career shooting% was 49.7% (32.7% from 3pt)​

The 3pt numbers are insane. And no one can defend it. To be able to reach those numbers with the insane quick release that both of them have is simply not human.

It is interesting that Steve Kerr leads 3pt shooting % all time

 

[calyam]

Anyone else get the feeling that the Durant we saw the past three games is a different prospect to that MVP one?

His play throughout the entire playoffs was well below his output throughout the season. His performance throughout the regular season wasn't that far off his MVP season, particularly given the increased role of Westbrook since then.

During the playoffs though he has struggled, particularly with his 3-point shot. He did play against good defenders in each of the past two rounds but typically Durant isn't one to be greatly effected by opposing defenses given the options he has offensively.

 

[Westy Bogan]

Not enough love for Iggy...

Iggy was a monster... The shots KD made were really hard...


Lebron won't be happy that he has Iggy chasing him around again. Would have preferred Roberson.

 

[2006_Eagles]

But that is kind of the point I am making, Steph and Klay are shooting at the same percentage as everyone else on the floor but they are doing it from anywhere on the floor. No one can compete with that.

Yesteryear coaches would accept sub 40% 3 point shooting because they knew the extra point was worth it. Even low 30's% was ok as it was equivalent to high 40's% shooting. Steph is 44.3% career shooting from the 3pt line which is equivalent to 66.5% shooting with the extra point. Klay is 42% which is equivalent to 62% shooting.

To put Steph's 3pt shooting % in perspective;

Kobe career shooting % was 44.7% (32.9% from 3pt)
Jordan's career shooting% was 49.7% (32.7% from 3pt)​

The 3pt numbers are insane. And no one can defend it. To be able to reach those numbers with the insane quick release that both of them have is simply not human.

It is interesting that Steve Kerr leads 3pt shooting % all time

Kerr must have something to do with it. And the talent is obviously there. The work ethic to get better/world class too. And to be able to do it under the highest of pressure situations.

Some magical combination of the above.

 

[Bazza37]

Never in doubt !!!

 

[2006_Eagles]

Not enough love for Iggy...

Iggy was a monster... The shots KD made were really hard...


Lebron won't be happy that he has Iggy chasing him around again. Would have preferred Roberson.

He will be stoked that he has tons more help this time around.

Bench Delly will be a force to be reckoned with.

 

[PP34]

Not enough love for Iggy...

Iggy was a monster... The shots KD made were really hard...


Lebron won't be happy that he has Iggy chasing him around again. Would have preferred Roberson.

Definitely.

Watching Durant in 2014 though, he wouldn't just settle for contested jumpers when someone was defending him like that, and he seemed a lot cleaner with his ballhandling.

 

[fidstar]

It will be

That's nice of him to hold the trophy for Steph.