The old farts got Howard back- Roy Morgan poll

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As I suspected the old people that Howard scared out of their wits for 4 years Got him back in .

Post-Election Analysis – Retirees Won the Day for the L-NP
Finding No. 3801 - By Gary Morgan and Michele Levine: October 29, 2004


POST-ELECTION ANALYSIS —

RETIREES WON THE DAY FOR THE L-NP

A special Morgan Poll on election weekend and the following weekend showed the L-NP (52.5%) ahead of the ALP (47.5%) on a two-party preferred basis. While the vote was similar among men (L-NP 52.5% cf ALP 47.5%) and women (L-NP 52% cf ALP 48%), analysis by age showed the ALP was ahead among those under 25 (ALP 53% cf L-NP 47%). The L-NP had a high 62% of the over 65 vote (ALP 38%).

Primary voting intention showed 46.5% of electors said they would or had voted for the L-NP, 37.5% for the ALP and 16% for minor parties — including 7.5% Greens, 1.5% Australian Democrats, 1.5% One Nation and 5.5% Family First, Minor Parties and Independent Candidates.
The table below shows these findings are very close to the actual election results as of the latest counting.1

Table 1. Latest Federal Election Result and the latest Morgan Poll

First Preference Results from the Australian Electoral Commission
Oct 7/8

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Morgan Poll

Oct 28, 2004 Oct 9/10 & 16/17, 2004
Sample Size (1,845)
% %
L-NP 46.72 (5.90) 46.5 (5)
ALP 37.63 37.5
Aust Dem 1.24
1.5

Aust Dem 7.18
7.5

One Nation 1.20
1.5

Ind/Other 6.03*
5.5*

Total 100 100

Two-Party Preferred Vote
L-NP 52.59 52.5
ALP 47.41 47.5
Total 100 100


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This was the whole point of Medicare Gold.

Not necessarily to win the elderly vote, but to at least close the gap.
 

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we will have to wait until the rodent dies or retires whatever comes first because the geriatrics of this country love a racist.
 

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It's the pseuds who got Howard back.

Latham was following their agenda.

A spectacular pseud to the head and shoot.
What do you care - you couldn't even be bothered voting as I recall.
 

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What do you care - you couldn't even be bothered voting as I recall.
Was devastated by the result, particularly in Victoria. In my youth, MY twenties, the Stalinists had been in control of the Victorian ALP for more than a decade. It took seven long years of struggle before we got rid of them post 1969 and made Labor electable Federally. It took another 12 years to elect a State Labor govt in Victoria.

That long bitter experience demonstrated that Labor can only win and hold govt if it fulfills four critera (1) absolutely reliable on national security and the US alliance (b) economic prudence (c) a perception of concensus govt (d) keeping the unions and the pseudo left in line.

It's the pseuds who always bring down labor govts if they force or con Labor into adopting their agenda: the Whitlam govt post 1974, the Hawke govt (Keating executed Hawke with pseud support), the Cain/Kirner govt (Kirner IS a hopeless pseud) ..

Now the pseuds have succeeded in relecting Howard, giving him control of the Senate and handing him the Labor heartland in perpetuity.

In Victoria for the first time in my memory, there is NOT ONE marginal seat to be won.

Labor is destroyed. Latham revealed himself to be cynically pursuing pseud popularism on the day he said he'd bring the troops back from Iraq before Christmas ... and that was the end of that...the forests policy was nothing more than Latham and Faulkner continuation pandering to the pseud agenda. That's why I voted informal, that's why the base Labor vote fell into Howard's arms.

Thank you pseuds, one and all. Enjoy the next 20 years.
 

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this data proves that young people are generally a bit silly and gullible and easily taken in by notions of naughtiness, that's why so many youngsters support left-wing politics.......they want to upset their elders. when they get older and more mature and have some brains they tend to be more conservative.

with an ageing population this is good news for the rodent, it will under pin his iron grip on power for a generation.
 
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with an ageing population this is good news for the rodent, it will under pin his iron grip on power for a generation.

This is a key issue, and something I don't believe Labor have quite grasped. Its also a reason the Greens will be unlikely to become much more powerful than they are now.

Australia, like most Western nations, is ageing. And most people get more conservative as they get older.

They start out idealistic and eager for change, then they get a mortgage and children and start to crave stability and finally they get older and despise to much change too quickly. With the porportion of the population over 65 set to double by 2050, everyone should condition themselves to conservatism - be it the Liberal or Labor version thereof.

with the propori
 
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I actually started out redical right but became more conservative left after the loonie Thatcher destroyed jobs and my rights once I had one.

So as I got more sensible and realised you have no hope 'negotiating on your own against large companies, and that sometimes pooled resources is better than private services I became rusted on labour.

Luckily Howard realises he has to stay slightly to the left of Keating to stay in power. His need to be in power is stronger than his right wing ideals
 
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demon_dave said:
we will have to wait until the rodent dies or retires whatever comes first because the geriatrics of this country love a racist.
Thats a spot on observation. Remember how the "grey heads" flocked to the racist one nation?
 
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Labor is destroyed. Latham revealed himself to be cynically pursuing pseud popularism on the day he said he'd bring the troops back from Iraq before Christmas ... and that was the end of that...the forests policy was nothing more than Latham and Faulkner continuation pandering to the pseud agenda. That's why I voted informal, that's why the base Labor vote fell into Howard's arms.

Thank you pseuds, one and all. Enjoy the next 20 years.

Depressingly you are most likely right about Federal Labor but at least we still have State labor Governments in place and that wont change overnight.
 

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What is a pseud exactly?
It represents a pseudo lefty in GuruJanes eyes.My guess is she probably considers you a pseud.Anyway,I look forward to here response.I've forgotten her exact explanation.But it's a doozy! :p
 

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It represents a pseudo lefty in GuruJanes eyes.My guess is she probably considers you a pseud.Anyway,I look forward to here response.I've forgotten her exact explanation.But it's a doozy! :p
I may well be:)
 
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