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He's partly right though. Yes, the fans shouldn't be chanting the racist chants, that much is obvious. But to then go and antagonise them over it is not going to help anything and will always make it worse. It's like when your mate drags you from a potential fight at the bar.. and then you give the guy the finger.. what else is he going to do other than run at you? Best solution is to score and just run back... and score again.
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If a player is getting personally abused by the crowd and then provokes them after he scores he will get booked and widely condemned for it, I think that’s the point here. Pretty sure Bonucci or anyone believes racial abuse is unacceptable in a football stadium or anywhere else for that matter
 

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If a player is getting personally abused by the crowd and then provokes them after he scores he will get booked and widely condemned for it, I think that’s the point here. Pretty sure Bonucci or anyone believes racial abuse is unacceptable in a football stadium or anywhere else for that matter
Exactly my point.
 

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If a player is being racially vilified then that is unacceptable and unprovoked in every instance. Celebrating wildly to prove a point can draw abuse, but as long as it's the same abuse any other player would receive, there's no issue. Nothing that he did forced the fans to racially abuse him and it's moronic to suggest otherwise.
 

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If a player is being racially vilified then that is unacceptable and unprovoked in every instance. Celebrating wildly to prove a point can draw abuse, but as long as it's the same abuse any other player would receive, there's no issue. Nothing that he did forced the fans to racially abuse him and it's moronic to suggest otherwise.
You’ve just completely agreed with both me and Bradesmaen, so who’s being moronic?
 

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I was addressing Bonucci who has now walked back on his comments.

If you both agree he was an idiot and Kean was in no way at fault then that's good to hear.
No you were saying that there’s no excuse for racially targeting someone, which is obviously what both I and bradesmaen said. Of course Bonucci has had to backtrack on his comments. Even though he said there is no room for racism that didn’t stop the Twitterrati laying into him. Only one thought allowed remember - no grey areas also, everything gotta be black and white
 

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No you were saying that there’s no excuse for racially targeting someone, which is obviously what both I and bradesmaen said. Of course Bonucci has had to backtrack on his comments. Even though he said there is no room for racism that didn’t stop the Twitterrati laying into him. Only one thought allowed remember - no grey areas also, everything gotta be black and white
You now seem to be arguing with me. Perhaps send me a pm to clarify why that isn't moronic.
 

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Sorry but this is absolutely moronic and feeds into the same commentary about Bonucci.
No it doesn't. If this was about faith instead it'd be fine, but because it's race it is blown way out of proportion. Look at the Scott Brown comments for example. Same old same old in politics where the far left virtue signallers shout down people rather than helping solve the original problems. Cagliari should be forced to play the rest of the season behind closed doors, the racist supporters banned and a massive fine. Kean should be counselled. There are plenty of black players who have been racially vilified in football but have chosen to let their footballing speak for themselves and fight the good fight off the pitch.
 

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I get what some are saying that he may have provoked the crowd which is a bit of a flog thing to do in soccer as your just asking for trouble but he probably has done that because of the racist abuse he was copping from them in the first place, that sort of shit is not on in any circumstances and really serie a should be singling out these guys and gals and be handing out life bans to all of them
 
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