I don't think anyone has implied that for quite some time.
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If he was playing for Barcelona or Real Madrid he would have won, simple as thatVVD incredibly stiff. Pivotal in Liverpool winning the CL and losing only one league game this year. Plus he helped Holland get to the Nation's League final.
If he can't win with the year he's had then what hope do any defenders have of being recognised as player of the year.
Lewandowski 8th? Ridiculous
When you up against someone like Messi I don't think that's a bad thing.VVD incredibly stiff. Pivotal in Liverpool winning the CL and losing only one league game this year. Plus he helped Holland get to the Nation's League final.
If he can't win with the year he's had then what hope do any defenders have of being recognised as player of the year.
Scored easily most goals. Messi and Ronaldo are voted on due to reputationYeah not sure how you be top 10 when you’re as much of a big game flop as him.
VVD incredibly stiff. Pivotal in Liverpool winning the CL and losing only one league game this year. Plus he helped Holland get to the Nation's League final.
If he can't win with the year he's had then what hope do any defenders have of being recognised as player of the year.
While I think Van Dijk deserved it, it was always going to be a close run thing between he and Messi. Both outstanding and I tend to agree with moomba that Messi has redefined the benchmark for ‘normal’.
4 in the top 7, 6 in the top 20. Proud night for the club. Well earned acknowledgement for a phenomenal year.
Don't mean to be bias but of course Vidic in 2009 who had a better season stats wise than VVD somehow only managed 16th spot yet VVD gets 2nd.While I think Van Dijk deserved it, it was always going to be a close run thing between he and Messi. Both outstanding and I tend to agree with moomba that Messi has redefined the benchmark for ‘normal’.
4 in the top 7, 6 in the top 20. Proud night for the club. Well earned acknowledgement for a phenomenal year.
My only obvious disagreement would be as good as Vidic was (and he was a beast) he was Torres' bunny.Don't mean to be bias but of course Vidic in 2009 who had a better season stats wise than VVD somehow only managed 16th spot yet VVD gets 2nd.
Don't get it twisted i take nothing from VVD i think he had an outstanding year and is easily the best defender in the world and it's not even close i'm just upset with the inconsistency of how the awards are dealt.
My only obvious disagreement would be as good as Vidic was (and he was a beast) he was Torres' bunny.
VVD doesn't have any striker that he doesn't match up on well or consistently beats him
Well I think Torres could do the same to VVD imo
He was that talented just unbelievable.
I’m still surprised that Bernardo Silva and Mahrez ranked higher than De Bruyne.
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Scored easily most goals. Messi and Ronaldo are voted on due to reputation
Scored easily most goals. Messi and Ronaldo are voted on due to reputation
My only obvious disagreement would be as good as Vidic was (and he was a beast) he was Torres' bunny.
the best part is seeing who voted for who. like togo voting lloris 3rd and messi 4th.
Don't mean to be bias but of course Vidic in 2009 who had a better season stats wise than VVD somehow only managed 16th spot yet VVD gets 2nd.
Don't get it twisted i take nothing from VVD i think he had an outstanding year and is easily the best defender in the world and it's not even close i'm just upset with the inconsistency of how the awards are dealt.
Reputation? Messi scored 51 goals in 50 games last season. He is still an absolutely phenomenal player. Still the best player in the world, although VVD would've deserved it as well for his season. Comparing the two is practically impossible, but people shouldn't forget that VVD plays in a better team than Messi, who is currently carrying a poorly managed Barcelona almost single-handedly.
Griezmann was third in the ballon d'or last year, Suarez, Rakitic, De Jong, Pique, ter Stegen, Umtiti, Vidal, Busquets & Alba are all super players too.
My god I have never seen a bunch of players regress so much within a a couple of weeks. Anyone would think the Barcelona squad is full if Sunday league players and Messithe way people have talked this week.
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So was Messi.Wasn't KdB injured?