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You finished below Tottenham and Newcastle that season. Enough said.

But you should feel honoured that you've given all teams, apart from Bayern/Real/Barca, genuine hope that they can emulate that feat no matter how terrible they are.

And that's your opinion which you're entitled too.

We beat Barca over 2 legs (with us having 10 men and no CB's for the majority of the 2nd leg) and beat Bayern at their home in the final. Greatest fairytale a supporter could witness. I do feel honoured.

I am not saying luck didn't go our way, but it wasn't a fluke.
 
Again, you're drawing a very very long bow.

West Ham could make the Cup Final and finish 12th, and their English lads would still get the benefit of Europe because of the Cup.

English players getting experience has nothing to do with this. You started by saying the FA Cup runners up getting in rewards a losing team, now you're saying it's about English players getting experience.
I believe it's both.
 
I believe it's both.

Still haven't told me why a team that finishes 7th and loses several matches during the season is a bigger loser than a side that finishes second in a Cup and loses only one match in that comp.

And still haven't told me why West Ham finishing 12th and being runners up in the FA Cup shouldn't play in Europe but West Ham finishing 7th should.
 

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Still haven't told me why a team that finishes 7th and loses several matches during the season is a bigger loser than a side that finishes second in a Cup and loses only one match in that comp.

And still haven't told me why West Ham finishing 12th and being runners up in the FA Cup shouldn't play in Europe but West Ham finishing 7th should.
They aren't as big a loser. That's your side of the coin.

Yes I have.

Go re read our conversation from the start. Either way, you're going to want to pick my opinion apart piece by piece.
 
They aren't as big a loser. That's your side of the coin.

Yes I have.

Go re read our conversation from the start. Either way, you're going to want to pick my opinion apart piece by piece.

7th isn't as big a loser as the runners up? That makes no sense.

No you haven't. You claim that rewarding 7th in some warped way helps the England set up which makes no sense when the side who finish second in the FA Cup could have more England representatives than the side who finish 7th.

If you didn't make so many strange statements it wouldn't be necessary.
 
And that's your opinion which you're entitled too.

We beat Barca over 2 legs (with us having 10 men and no CB's for the majority of the 2nd leg) and beat Bayern at their home in the final. Greatest fairytale a supporter could witness. I do feel honoured.

I am not saying luck didn't go our way, but it wasn't a fluke.
And in the end at least we have won it. Unlike some (all) other clubs in London.
 
And in the end at least we have won it. Unlike some (all) other clubs in London.

How many wasted rubles did it take you?

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7th isn't as big a loser as the runners up? That makes no sense.

No you haven't. You claim that rewarding 7th in some warped way helps the England set up which makes no sense when the side who finish second in the FA Cup could have more England representatives than the side who finish 7th.

If you didn't make so many strange statements it wouldn't be necessary.
I've already told you mate, it's my opinion. You don't need to pick it apart or agree with it, it's mine.

Let's once again agree to disagree and just move on.
 
I've already told you mate, it's my opinion. You don't need to pick it apart or agree with it, it's mine.

Let's once again agree to disagree and just move on.

I forgot we weren't allowed to challenge people's opinions on a message board. :confused:
 
I forgot we weren't allowed to challenge people's opinions on a message board. :confused:
You don't challenge. You pick it apart and then tell me I'm wrong.

I explained why I thought what I did and then you continue to pick it apart until we end up going in circles.

If you want to discuss it further, let me know via PM.
 

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Put the cat among the pigeons.

Give a Champions league spot to the FA Cup winners and a EUROPA League spot to the league cup winners.

Imagine the lols if a championship side fluked the FA Cup and made it into the champions league.
 
Imagine the lols if a championship side fluked the FA Cup and made it into the champions league.

If Wigan had beaten Arsenal on penalties last FA Cup they may well have beaten us and there ya go.

Cardiff made the final a few years ago as well didn't they?
 
Wigan were in the Europa league while in the Championship I thought? When they beat City in the final.

As were Birmingham after beating Arsenal a couple of seasons before that.
 

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That was a League cup wasn't it?

Yeah I think it must have been. Get the finalists mixed up sometimes.

Cardiff-Liverpool wasn't it?
 
The only fact is we won the cup, the rest is just opinions.

To say we fluked it is just ridiculous and disrespectful to the players and club involved. I am the first to admit luck went our way a few times (but there was a few chokes from the opposition too), but you can't fluke a UCL cup win.

Come on mate.

Let's be honest. I've never seen a fluking quite like it.
 
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