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The PL probably closing in on the CL. There's 6 sides who can actually win the PL whereas the CL despite having 32 sides in it only 3-4 are a chance each season
 

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The PL probably closing in on the CL. There's 6 sides who can actually win the PL whereas the CL despite having 32 sides in it only 3-4 are a chance each season

I'd say 5-6 sides have a chance with the UCL. Juve and to a smaller extent PSG both are capable of matching it with the top sides. Sevilla in Europe aren't bad either.
 
I'd say 5-6 sides have a chance with the UCL. Juve and to a smaller extent PSG both are capable of matching it with the top sides. Sevilla in Europe aren't bad either.
No doubting they can do well but I can't see PSG, Sevilla or Juve (anymore) winning it. Even Bayern have dropped off being a big chance to that next rung down.

For me it's RM, Barca, AM and then a big gap to Bayern. Then the sides who could if they get a good run do something PSG, Juve, Chelsea & maybe even City
 
No doubting they can do well but I can't see PSG, Sevilla or Juve (anymore) winning it. Even Bayern have dropped off being a big chance to that next rung down.

For me it's RM, Barca, AM and then a big gap to Bayern. Then the sides who could if they get a good run do something PSG, Juve, Chelsea & maybe even City

AM aren't even at the levels of Real and Barca right now. I'd say on paper that Bayern have the better side then Atletico too. Juve and PSG are level with Atletico. Sevilla on their day can beat anybody. Then there's still sides like Dortmund and Benfica who have strong sides to go far.
 
Of course a City fan would say this :$
I know plenty of blues that think otherwise. But for me the league is the ultimate, and I thought that long before we were a chance of winning it.

Cup competitions so much down to timing/luck/kind draws etc.
 

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It's getting increasingly hard for the English sides to win the Champions League.

Man City came close last season but I feel it's still dominated by Barca, Real, Bayern etc.
 
It's getting increasingly hard for the English sides to win the Champions League.

Man City came close last season but I feel it's still dominated by Barca, Real, Bayern etc.
close to what? having a shot on target?
 
I know plenty of blues that think otherwise. But for me the league is the ultimate, and I thought that long before we were a chance of winning it.

Cup competitions so much down to timing/luck/kind draws etc.

The Champions League is the ultimate trophy for clubs and as a supporter of a club with no chance in hell of winning anything, I feel I have impartiality on my side in saying that.
 

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The Champions League is the ultimate trophy for clubs and as a supporter of a club with no chance in hell of winning anything, I feel I have impartiality on my side in saying that.
You're entitled to your opinion, but it's wrong to infer that mine is based on any sort of bias or partiality.

We came closer to winning the champions league than the league last year, and are more likely to win the champions league than the league this year.

I just rate the league a greater accomplishment and the trophy of the two I would prefer.
 
You're entitled to your opinion, but it's wrong to infer that mine is based on any sort of bias or partiality.

We came closer to winning the champions league than the league last year, and are more likely to win the champions league than the league this year.

I just rate the league a greater accomplishment and the trophy of the two I would prefer.
Cup comps are just fun and a bit of luck goes into it. Winning the league after 38 games there's no question about the champion. Any cup win can have elements of luck with the draw or advancing over 2 legs
 
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