The on topic thread

[FAITH]

Lol I'm one of Zola's biggest fans but that is an outrageous great call

 

[Established1870]

Le Tiss may have been the best to watch but he would barely be in the best 25 attacking players in the PL era

Thank you for proving my point.

 

[Zidane98]

Lol I'm one of Zola's biggest fans but that is an outrageous call

She's just trying to earn brownie points from chef .

 

[typeclub]

Zola was 30 years old when he came to the Prem too.

 

[kangaspurs]

I always feel as though the defenders always get undersold in these types of debates. After all, defending is as valuable an art as scoring or being sublime on the ball. Would any of them go close to being the best player ever? I've only been watching football, let alone the PL, since about 2010 when I was 18, so I am in no way qualified to add anything significant, but would the likes of Vidic, Terry etc be worthy of being in the discussion?

Didn't Cruyffy and WR do a thread on the best PL players of all time only a few months ago, anyway?

 

[Bojan KantKick]

Will GNev ever manage a team again? Or was he that bad he'll never get another shot? Or is he too big shot to go down to a Leyton Orient and work his way up?

dont think he's in a big rush to get back into management. he's pretty busy with salford and punditry.

Whilst he wasn't great at valencia, it's a huge job for a rookie with a language barrier and more proven managers have failed spectacularly there.

 

[Bojan KantKick]

Whilst he isn't the definitive gospel for this, being one of the greatest mids of all time means what he says has merit in this particular conversation. That and almost everyone who's seen Scholes and Le Tissier live and in their primes say that they were the best midfielders they've ever in that time period.



Physically yes you have a point but technically they were about even from all accounts. One played for clubs consistently challenging for top honours whilst the other played for a club that wasn't getting past a particular level so of course one is going to be rated higher. Juan Carlos Valeron is considered by a lot Spaniards as their greatest ever player but Xavi and Iniesta will always be more highly regarded outside the country because they played for Barcelona instead of Deportivo La Coruna.



This will more than likely get my SAFC fandom revoked and have me hanged but Shear............can't do it.

Valeron was amazing for Depor. They had a great side in the early 00s but he really drove them.

 

[Bojan KantKick]

Le Tiss may have been the best to watch but he would barely be in the best 25 attacking players in the PL era

lol

 

[Bojan KantKick]

I always feel as though the defenders always get undersold in these types of debates. After all, defending is as valuable an art as scoring or being sublime on the ball. Would any of them go close to being the best player ever? I've only been watching football, let alone the PL, since about 2010 when I was 18, so I am in no way qualified to add anything significant, but would the likes of Vidic, Terry etc be worthy of being in the discussion?

Didn't Cruyffy and WR do a thread on the best PL players of all time only a few months ago, anyway?

Jaap Stam, Denis Irwin and Ashley Cole are the best prem defenders all time by a decent margin.

 

[Bojan KantKick]

Paul Scholes is the goat prem midfielder. The player every team tried to stop but nobody ever could.

 

[Bojan KantKick]

Established1870 bringing the real talk to this fred.

 

[Stan_Darsh72]

Jaap Stam, Denis Irwin and Ashley Cole are the best prem defenders all time by a decent margin.

Vidic and ferdinand also a good shout.

The only reason why shitty won in 2012 was because vida was injured

 

[Bojan KantKick]

Vidic and ferdinand also a good shout.

The only reason why shitty won in 2012 was because vida was injured

Vida and Rio were great but Jip Jaap in his prime was a ****ing beast.

Denis Irwin quite comfortably the goat full back in england. Never made a mistake and banged important goals.

 

[WealstoneRaider]

Denis Irwin lol

 

[Bojan KantKick]

would be spurs best ever player

 

[Stan_Darsh72]

Vida and Rio were great but Jip Jaap in his prime was a ******* beast.

Denis Irwin quite comfortably the goat full back in england. Never made a mistake and banged important goals.

Irwin was the goat fullback.

Cashley has nothing on him

 

[Stan_Darsh72]

Denis Irwin lol

Best lb and rb in pl history.

 

[WealstoneRaider]

I'm beginning to wonder when you guys started watching PL football, or any football for that matter. You certainly didn't have access to the PL when Irwin was playing so not sure how you can make that call. Similar thing to Cruyff's call on fat Ronaldo yesterday

 

[jod23]

Irwin is one of those terribly overrated players.

I love how all the best defenders in the history of everything are apparently United players, Stam, Vidic, Rio, Irwin.... yawn.

 

[Bojan KantKick]

I'm beginning to wonder when you guys started watching PL football, or any football for that matter. You certainly didn't have access to the PL when Irwin was playing so not sure how you can make that call. Similar thing to Cruyff's call on fat Ronaldo yesterday

umm when i was growing up in the uk 20 years ago floggo

 

[Bojan KantKick]

Irwin is one of those terribly overrated players.

I love how all the best defenders in the history of everything are apparently United players, Stam, Vidic, Rio, Irwin.... yawn.

better than Dalglish, Hansen and Souness combined imo.

Irwin was the man.

 

[Cooldude]

Irwin is one of those terribly overrated players.

I love how all the best defenders in the history of everything are apparently United players, Stam, Vidic, Rio, Irwin.... yawn.

Nah Irwin earned his rep, better than the rat IMO

 

[jod23]

Le Tiss may have been the best to watch but he would barely be in the best 25 attacking players in the PL era

I dont know about that, just off the top of my head.

Shearer
Henry
Owen
Fowler
Suarez
C.Ronaldo
Rooney
A.Cole
Yorke
Drogba
Bergkamp
Hasselbaink

That's 12 mainly strikers off the top of my head. RVP, RVN are another couple, but I think he fit somewhere between 15-25.

 

[WealstoneRaider]

umm when i was growing up in the uk 20 years ago floggo

Irwin was bog average, end of, flog

 

[jod23]

better than Dalglish, Hansen and Souness combined imo.

Irwin was the man.

Hahah ok.