The on topic thread

[moomba]

What was the point then? Genuinely asking as I can't see any other point to it.

I can think of three reasons why Liverpools wage bill has gone up by such a significant amount (at a guess up by 50% in the last 2 or 3 years).

Two of them would be pretty worrying to me if I was a Liverpool supporter.

But there may be a perfectly logical explanation, maybe someone in here can offer some insight.

If I wanted to make this into a City v Liverpool I wouldnt have chosen a chart that clearly says ours and figures for the other clubs arent like for like.

 

[moomba]

Yep. It'd be interesting to know how much of their wage billis accounted for outside the FC and why they do that.

I'll have a look at the amounts in the next couple of days.

Basically the marketing arm and the scouting arm of CFG do work for all the CFG clubs and third parties. Rather than having the costs borne by Man City for work done by other clubs, they are their own companies. They employ the staff and charge whoever uses them for their services. We're the biggest user of the services (or used to be anyway) so we pay the most.

 

[glenferry23]

Yep. It'd be interesting to know how much of their wage billis accounted for outside the FC and why they do that.

Yes I'm sure there's some creative accounting involved. But it just seems flawed from the outset.

I would have thought City would be on par (or thereabouts) with Chelsea behind United.

On face value, Liverpool's highest wage is Coutinho right, on approx £140k-£150k (correct me if I'm wrong).

Conversely, you've got a 3-4 players at City well ahead of that. I believe Yaya and Aguero are in the £220-£240k bracket.

Sterling is the ~£160kish category. I'd imagine KDB would be similar too. There might be more.

Even the base wage of their 'mid tier' players like Dinho, Stones, Sane etc etc you'd think would be on much higher base wages than Liverpool's.

It just doesn't appear correct.

 

[chef]

Yes I'm sure there's some creative accounting involved. But it just seems flawed from the outset.

I would have thought City would be on par (or thereabouts) with Chelsea behind United.

On face value, Liverpool's highest wage is Coutinho right, on approx £140k-£150k (correct me if I'm wrong).

Conversely, you've got a 3-4 players at City well ahead of that. I believe Yaya and Aguero are in the £220-£240k bracket.

Sterling is the ~£160kish category. I'd imagine KDB would be similar too. There might be more.

Even the base wage of their 'mid tier' players like Dinho, Stones, Sane etc etc you'd think would be on much higher base wages than Liverpool's.

It just doesn't appear correct.

Yeah, theres no doubt its a fair bit creative. I just dont get the need to do it.

 

[moomba]

Just seen that almost £16m of this years figures were redundancy costs. Accounts for some of the increase.

 

[ADL9798]

We've cleared a lot of players out over the last 2 seasons (hence the very low net spend figure). Wouldn't surprise if we had provided a few of them with some form of golden handshake to get them off the books.

 

[glenferry23]

Yeah, theres no doubt its a fair bit creative. I just dont get the need to do it.

Yes I don't see the logic behind it, sure there's an explanation somewhere. But all it does is invite questions and attract suspicion, something I don't see football club wanting.

 

[Stan_Darsh72]

We've cleared a lot of players out over the last 2 seasons (hence the very low net spend figure). Wouldn't surprise if we had provided a few of them with some form of golden handshake to get them off the books.

Thats a boring explaination

Needs more cocaine and crime.

 

[Magma]

chart of the top 20 goalscorers in the top 5 leagues with goals relative to times offside.

it hasnt been updated for last nights games. cos belotti scored 3 in i think 8 mins. he'll move to england in the summer, or at least should. absolute gun.

 

[moomba]

Yes I don't see the logic behind it, sure there's an explanation somewhere. But all it does is invite questions and attract suspicion, something I don't see football club wanting.

The benefit for us is that we don't pay the expense of staff doing work for other clubs. The services and marketing divisions charge us for the work they carry out for us, and they charge Melbourne City, New York City, YF Marinos etc for the work they carry out for them.

It's like charging out to a cost centre in a big organisation. The cost centre bears the expenses, but recharges their internal customers. City Football Services and City Football Marketing are just big cost centres.

FWIW City Football Services employed 63 people at a cost of just over 5m in the latest set of accounts. City Football Marketing employed 86 people at a cost of just under 6.5m.

As far as I know that's the extent of it.

I reckon the wage bill for CF Services will rise pretty significantly in the next set of figures with a big push on China.

 

[chef]

chart of the top 20 goalscorers in the top 5 leagues with goals relative to times offside.

it hasnt been updated for last nights games. cos belotti scored 3 in i think 8 mins. he'll move to england in the summer, or at least should. absolute gun.

If Diego is to go to China I'd be happy to throw all that cash at Belotti. Would be a perfect replacement.

 

[Zidane98]

chart of the top 20 goalscorers in the top 5 leagues with goals relative to times offside.

it hasnt been updated for last nights games. cos belotti scored 3 in i think 8 mins. he'll move to england in the summer, or at least should. absolute gun.

Pointless chart because United have a different offside rule this season compared to everyone else

 

[jod23]

How's Messi though. Never offside.

 

[Magma]

he drops deep so much. he's not playing on the shoulder of the defender, that's more suarez. messi basically these days plays as an attacking midfielder and then takes the piss out of any defender in front of him.

 

[jod23]

he drops deep so much. he's not playing on the shoulder of the defender, that's more suarez. messi basically these days plays as an attacking midfielder and then takes the piss out of any defender in front of him.

Whilst true he often gets clear of the last defender. His timing is immaculate.

 

[SM]

Surely a record?

 

[jod23]

Surely a record?

One you dont really want though.

 

[Cruyff14]

Well, if you're not a world beater, it's good career progression.

 

[Stan_Darsh72]

Also good when he can name drop himself at trivia nights at the pub

 

[SM]

One you dont really want though.

Huh?

 

[SM]

Well, if you're not a world beater, it's good career progression.

And not as if he's doing it the other way around..

 

[jod23]

Well, if you're not a world beater, it's good career progression.

He's done amazingly well.

 

[jod23]

Huh?

Well no professional player wants to play in League 2 and the Conference etc. Nobody wants that record but he's done amazing to climb the ladder. Kudos to him.

 

[SM]

Well no professional player wants to play in League 2 and the Conference etc. Nobody wants that record but he's done amazing to climb the ladder. Kudos to him.

Any player would be stoked to climb the leagues so rapidly and continue scoring as he goes. If he's "done amazing" I'm sure plenty of players would be happy to do amazing.

 

[jod23]

Any player would be stoked to climb the leagues so rapidly and continue scoring as he goes. If he's "done amazing" I'm sure plenty of players would be happy to do amazing.

Yeah but i mean if you had the choice tp have that record he does or just play your entire career at the top level then its an easy choice. As i said its a great record but not one you'd particularly want.