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[Art Vandelay_]

Hope he pulls through

 

[Latro]

Zanetti has admitted he once snubbed United to stay at Inter.

 

[Bojan KantKick]

loved Zanetti. Good on him for finishing up at Inter.

 

[Bojan KantKick]

 

[jod23]

Haha. He is loving his move to City.

 

[Bostonian]

Premier League clubs are set for a battle with ‘The Big Six’ over international TV rights at Thursday’s annual shareholders’ meeting.

Representatives from the 20 top-flight clubs will meet in Harrogate and high on the agenda will be the row over elite clubs’ demands for a greater share of money from games shown overseas.

It is estimated that around £3 billion of the current £8.3bn package is earned from overseas rights, which is shared equally, but the likes of Manchester City and Liverpool are pushing for a larger slice of the cash.

The other top four clubs, Manchester United, Arsenal, Chelsea and Tottenham Hotspur, are also expected to argue that the present allocation is unfair, claiming their popularity sells Premier League football worldwide.

The Premier League will require 14 votes from 20 for the proposals to stand any chance of success and an argument for change, yet it is understood a number of the less established clubs outside the top six will strongly oppose it.


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football...g-six-ready-fight-bigger-share-international/


Do they deserve more or do they need to be reminded there is no PL without the other 14 teams?

 

[Jatz]

Hope that get's turned down. Would only increase the gap between the big 6 and the rest.

 

[Magma]

shouldnt go through, wont go through.

 

[jd2010]

I can see where they are coming from but for the fairness of the comp that shouldn't get through

 

[SM]

I can see where they are coming from but for the fairness of the comp that shouldn't get through

The evenness of the league as a whole is what makes it so interesting to watch. So no I don't see where they're coming from.

 

[jd2010]

The evenness of the league as a whole is what makes it so interesting to watch. So no I don't see where they're coming from.

If people really cared about an even league they'd have tuned into Ligue 2 which had about a point separating the top few sides. People tune in not to see an even game between Swansea & WBA they tune into the story of the big teams. The ratings around the world for games not including the top 6-8 sides show that

 

[SM]

If people really cared about an even league they'd have tuned into Ligue 2 which had about a point separating the top few sides. People tune in not to see an even game between Swansea & WBA they tune into the story of the big teams. The ratings around the world for games not including the top 6-8 sides show that

People did pay a lot of attention to that though so your point is a bit moot.

I didn't mean people tune in to see Swansea v Stoke, but they tune in to see Bournemouth beat Liverpool, Hull beat Liverpool, Burnley - well, they tune in to see the minnows beating up on Liverpool and just the legitimate competitiveness of the title race because of this.

 

[jd2010]

People did pay a lot of attention to that though so your point is a bit moot.

I didn't mean people tune in to see Swansea v Stoke, but they tune in to see Bournemouth beat Liverpool, Hull beat Liverpool, Burnley - well, they tune in to see the minnows beating up on Liverpool and just the legitimate competitiveness of the title race because of this.

I agree with what you're saying but in terms of the # of viewers over the whole 38 game season the top 6 sides would smash the ratings of the rest of the comp and would be the basis of their case. It's basically how the domestic TV rights are split (by who gets the most televised games) but since all games are televised internationally their point is ratings on that whole lot of games being how the money is split.

Like I said for fairness of the comp going forward it shouldn't happen because it'll make the gap grow. But their point about being more watched internationally than a Burnley or Bournemouth is correct.

 

[SM]

I agree with what you're saying but in terms of the # of viewers over the whole 38 game season the top 6 sides would smash the ratings of the rest of the comp and would be the basis of their case. It's basically how the domestic TV rights are split (by who gets the most televised games) but since all games are televised internationally their point is ratings on that whole lot of games being how the money is split.

Like I said for fairness of the comp going forward it shouldn't happen because it'll make the gap grow. But their point about being more watched internationally than a Burnley or Bournemouth is correct.

I think we're agreeing but coming from two different sides to this, if the Top 6 got a bigger cut, the only games people would be interested in generally speaking would be games between the Top 6 which would harm the league in the long term.

 

[jd2010]

I think we're agreeing but coming from two different sides to this, if the Top 6 got a bigger cut, the only games people would be interested in generally speaking would be games between the Top 6 which would harm the league in the long term.

Nah I disagree with that. People will still care about Spurs v Bournemouth regardless because a good team is involved. The international rights are a lot smaller than the Sky/BT domestic rights iirc so it wouldn't be that big of a game changer that sides like Bournemouth are no longer competitive against the top 6. I think the top 6 sides are just after a more educated split than 1/20th each because their games are probably making up for 70-80% of total international ratings. The domestic rights aren't split 1/20th to everyone but is still fair so they'd be after something similar for the international rights

 

[Jatz]

If you start doing that then you end up with the La Liga system that is absolutely shite. There'll be some more clubs involved but that's basically what will happen. Will make the already unlikely Leicester title, nigh on impossible.

 

[RossFC]

I wish there was a way to make EPL clubs in Europe more competitive in Europe. But the EPL clubs from 8th-Last more competitive in the EPL.

 

[Bojan KantKick]

I wish there was a way to make EPL clubs in Europe more competitive in Europe. But the EPL clubs from 8th-Last more competitive in the EPL.

The FA could be nicer with fixturing like they are in Spain

 

[NUFC Tiger]

IMO, the appeal of the league is partly due to how competitive it is. A 'minnow' can knock off a 'big club' on their day. Plus the spectacle is generally more exciting for casuals who don't necessarily appreciate the more tactical aspect of the game. It's faster pace, more physical and less (generally speaking) build up play. I can easily watch a fixture between 2 smaller clubs and be engrossed in the match.

There is no PL without 14 other clubs so it should be shot down. We already have a bit of a gap between the 'elite' and the rest - this would only widen that gap.

 

[Bostonian]

The question I have is why do they need more money?

They are already splashing out on individual players that are worth as much as our whole squad.

 

[jd2010]

The question I have is why do they need more money?

They are already splashing out on individual players that are worth as much as our whole squad.

to compete with real and barca who dont share their tv money

 

[Bostonian]

to compete with real and barca who dont share their tv money

That has zero relevance to British football though. They don't play in the PL.

 

[SM]

That has zero relevance to British football though. They don't play in the PL.

They do play in the Champions League where the Top 4 do play.

 

[Bostonian]

They do play in the Champions League where the Top 4 do play.

That's just a bonus for doing well in the league AND earning more money others in the league will never have a chance too.

Should never be any kind reason to impact PL policies/deals.

 

[SM]

That's just a bonus for doing well in the league AND earning more money others in the league will never have a chance too.

Should never be any kind reason to impact PL policies/deals.

I'm not sure what you mean.

You asked why they would want more money, the answer is to better compete in the CL against other cashed up clubs.