The on topic thread

[Cruyff14]

Can't wait to see how WC tries to justify this.

 

[moomba]

I signed a petition against people buying diesel from Singapore and DR Congo fwiw.

 

[Zidane98]

I was actually wrong about that :

http://www.resilience.org/stories/2...esel-jet-fuel-imports-come-south-korea-japan/

Sorry to disappont!

 

[Established1870]

Not sure where the vanity project thing is coming from other than being a cliche of choice for anyone that doesn't like them foreign owners. It's an investment, and it's looking like a pretty good one.

1) If 1 game in 9 years doesn't say "vanity project" then I don't know what does.

2) There's nothing wrong with foreign investment. You get shitty people both local and foreign who own clubs (Oystons, Winkleman, Ken Bates). When your owners are responsible for massive human rights abuses then you're owners are shit people. That article Cooksen posted hits the nail on the head for a lot of things regarding City and your owners and yet you're still in denial.

I think we have three or four Abu Dhabi businesses on our books. Don't know if they are government owned or not. But we are a very popular team in the region, we do travel there regularly and our chairman and owner do have decent contacts in the region.

You're owned by the heads of Abu Dhabi and you're immensely popular in Abu Dhabi? I have to go to the laboratory to figure this one out.

 

[Cruyff14]

aaaaaaand there's the backtrack!

 

[jd2010]

I was actually wrong about that :

http://www.resilience.org/stories/2...esel-jet-fuel-imports-come-south-korea-japan/

Sorry to disappont!

But you were ok with Australia buying diesel from Singapore which shows how little you care about human rights regardless lol

 

[Art Vandelay_]

I was actually wrong about that :

http://www.resilience.org/stories/2...esel-jet-fuel-imports-come-south-korea-japan/

Sorry to disappont!

Aha! Japan the evil whaling country.
Another petition.

 

[Zidane98]

But you were ok with Australia buying diesel from Singapore which shows how little you care about human rights regardless lol

If you can show me that the company who exports diesel to Australia is responsible from human rights abuses I'll concede.

 

[TubbsFarquhar]

Aha! Japan the evil whaling country.
Another petition.

Then there's South Korea whose FA slipped FIFA some nice money under the table in 2002. It just gets worse and worse.

 

[Zidane98]

Aha! Japan the evil whaling country.
Another petition.

Japan is a great country. Respect & honour are the basis of their society.

 

[moomba]

1) If 1 game in 9 years doesn't say "vanity project" then I don't know what does.

2) There's nothing wrong with foreign investment. You get shitty people both local and foreign who own clubs (Oystons, Winkleman, Ken Bates). When your owners are responsible for massive human rights abuses then you're owners are shit people. That article Cooksen posted hits the nail on the head for a lot of things regarding City and your owners and yet you're still in denial.



You're owned by the heads of Abu Dhabi and you're immensely popular in Abu Dhabi? I have to go to the laboratory to figure this one out.

Someone buying as club as a vanity project would surely be there every week getting his face in the papers and taking the plaudits from the supporters. As he said from the outset he bought the club as a long term investment, and it's looking a pretty good one for him.

Like I said I believe the purchase was a personal investment, and I've seen no evidence to suggest otherwise. So I'll base my assessment of our owner on what he has done or been accused of doing. I presume if the writer of that article had anything on Mansour worth writing about he would have done so rather than focus on a relative that has no involvement in the club.

Have you signed a petition against the Liverpool Abu Dhabi academy? I presume that could only have been done as a partnership between club and government.

 

[jd2010]

If you can show me that the company who exports diesel to Australia is responsible from human rights abuses I'll concede.

You're ok with our country importing with a country below Qatar on the human rights list. If that's ok with you then it truly is just a front for man city hate.

Unless your protesting to the government for us to stop all our dealings with Singapore you don't have a leg to stand on pointing fingers elsewhere

 

[Zidane98]

You're ok with our country importing with a country below Qatar on the human rights list. If that's ok with you then it truly is just a front for man city hate.

Unless your protesting to the government for us to stop all our dealings with Singapore you don't have a leg to stand on pointing fingers elsewhere

It depends on who the company is. From what I can see most of the petroleum exporters in Singapore are worldwide corporations like Caltex. This is a football forum btw how you fill your car up is totally irrelevant.

 

[Zidane98]

Someone buying as club as a vanity project would surely be there every week getting his face in the papers and taking the plaudits from the supporters. As he said from the outset he bought the club as a long term investment, and it's looking a pretty good one for him.

Like I said I believe the purchase was a personal investment, and I've seen no evidence to suggest otherwise. So I'll base my assessment of our owner on what he has done or been accused of doing. I presume if the writer of that article had anything on Mansour worth writing about he would have done so rather than focus on a relative that has no involvement in the club.

Have you signed a petition against the Liverpool Abu Dhabi academy? I presume that could only have been done as a partnership between club and government.

Human Rights Watch believes the club is being used to promote UAE's image :


http://keirradnedge.com/2016/08/17/james-dorsey-mancity-owner/

I guess you'll claim that HRW are also biased.

 

[jd2010]

It depends on who the company is. From what I can see most of the petroleum exporters in Singapore are worldwide corporations like Caltex. This is a football forum btw how you fill your car up is totally irrelevant.

Not really irrelevant when human rights is what's being preached and a country worse than Qatar is deemed OK to import from

 

[moomba]

Human Rights Watch believes the club is being used to promote Yale's image :


http://keirradnedge.com/2016/08/17/james-dorsey-mancity-owner/

I guess you'll claim that HRW are also biased.

It's never been a secret that the club feel that how it is run reflects on Abu Dhabi. But I'm not sure of the logic behind that claim. The only publicity Abu Dhabi tends to get in relation to Man City is negative.

It's probably the reason Khaldoon and Simon Pearce are involved. It's almost certainly why Al Fahim was given the flick early in the piece. And explains a lot towards how we approach the media.

 

[moomba]

This is a football forum btw how you fill your car up is totally irrelevant.

:-D:-D:-D

 

[Magma]

i also enjoy picking and choosing when to be outraged.

 

[Zidane98]

Not really irrelevant when human rights is what's being preached and a country worse than Qatar is deemed OK to import from

Unless the company that Australia is importing from is involved in human rights abuse you have absolutely no point whatsover.

I buy clothing from the USA but cannot stand Trump and his government. The two things are completely separate.

 

[Zidane98]

It's never been a secret that the club feel that how it is run reflects on Abu Dhabi. But I'm not sure of the logic behind that claim. The only publicity Abu Dhabi tends to get in relation to Man City is negative.

It's probably the reason Khaldoon and Simon Pearce are involved. It's almost certainly why Al Fahim was given the flick early in the piece. And explains a lot towards how we approach the media.

Why do you think Human Rights Watch are concerned ?

 

[moomba]

Why do you think Human Rights Watch are concerned ?

Don't know.

 

[moomba]

i also enjoy picking and choosing when to be outraged.

I'm outraged at your flippancy. I feel a petition coming on.

 

[moomba]

Ha ha

https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...id-squires-on-manchester-city-football-utopia

 

[largebus]

We need Sheffield Wed or Sheffield Utd back the EPL. Why?

Any team being funded by jet fuel money will not be able to melt a team from the City of Steel Beams

 

[SM]

Elysse Perry has got me awe-struck too.

Went to school with my sister. Has a horrible voice, but other than that pretty perfect.