the scum are truly a waste land, not one player would want to end up down there, and i'm sure most clubs will help their players avoid carlton like the plague.. sure you stole stevens from us, but port are assholes at trade time... Bart will end up at the Dons or Pies if he is leaving(already rumors going around he wont go to carlton), only way you will get a gem like jimmy in the PSD is if their club is ********ed at him and wont make a trade for anything, like the stevens fiasco.. Another problem with the scum down the bottom is murphy, the poor kid, i would cut and run the brissy in a heart beat, hope he stays though for the pies sake, but we will still get ellis as the scum need ready made kids like hurn bad...