Solved The Original Night Stalker/East Area Rapist

[metic]

"I wouldn’t be surprised if after killing the guy, he’d changed his clothes and came in to join the search,” Ward said in hindsight.

Ward described DeAngelo as super smart and serious.

“Joe was kind of the black sheep of the family, standoffish, and he didn’t like to joke around,” he said.

Ward added that he thought DeAngelo had a master’s degree and wondered what he was doing working for a small town agency.

“He was a nice enough guy and friendly [with the other officers]. He was good at his job,” Ward said."

https://www.ourvalleyvoice.com/2018...ied-as-golden-state-killer-visalia-ransacker/

 

[metic]

Larry Pool , boss detective interview mentions 8000 suspects none of which was jj DeAngelo

 

[GreyCrow]

There has been some good discussion and content added in this thread. Thanks all

 

[tombomb]

What did they say about the actual arrest?

They said they chose to arrest him as he was leaving his home as they were concerned with what he might have planned if they tried to go into his home or if they intercepted him while driving. They also said that when the arrested him, he seemed to react like he had planned for this but didn’t have time to do anything.

 

[Hard Ball Get]

After listening to the casefile update, I'm really fascinated by what caused them to "look east"

 

[Hard Ball Get]

Larry Pool , boss detective interview mentions 8000 suspects none of which was jj DeAngelo

Thats amazing. Incredible to think that he only came on their radar a week ago.

 

[tombomb]

I find it interesting how they talk about him as if he is guilty without trial ..... not that I am saying for a second he isn’t. In Australia, the cops make an arrest and you dont hear anything for 2 years. Look at the Claremont serial killer, it’s close to 2 years (I think) since they made an arrest and we still know basically nothing at all.

 

[Hard Ball Get]

I find it interesting how they talk about him as if he is guilty without trial ..... not that I am saying for a second he isn’t. In Australia, the cops make an arrest and you dont hear anything for 2 years. Look at the Claremont serial killer, it’s close to 2 years (I think) since they made an arrest and we still know basically nothing at all.

His admission perhaps?

 

[Kurve]

Still haven’t heard why they thought to get DNA from him in the first place.

Have seen rumours on twitter that someone from his family might have tipped off law enforcement.

This by Vox

"... a discarded DNA sample, apparently generated as a result of a public tip, led police to DeAngelo."

https://www.vox.com/2018/4/25/17279...pist-suspect-identified-joseph-james-deangelo

 

[vast]

Still bloody hard to believe no one in his life suspected anything. And a public tip only came up a week ago. Is that right?

Why would someone sit on that for so long?

 

[GreyCrow]

If its a family member then it may be that they have had enough of possible domestic servitude or abuse, and anonymously tipped off the police.

 

[vast]

This is from a doco that came out this year. He remained in the area his whole life from where he committed the crimes pretty much.

 

[Kurve]

"In 1976, while working in Exeter, DeAngelo was promoted to sergeant and put in charge of an anti-burglary team with another sergeant from a nearby department, according to a newspaper article from the time. DeAngelo “will investigate burglaries and attempt to prevent them by informing the public about burglary prevention methods,” according to the article. The team was called “Joint Attack on Burglary.”

Shocker.

https://heavy.com/news/2018/04/joseph-james-deangelo/

 

[metic]

Neighbor from hell who turned out to be a 'serial killer': Stunned residents tell how the Golden State Killer would threaten to 'deliver a load of death' over dogs barking and yelled about lawn mowing

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...er-72-speak-shock.html?ico=amp_articleRelated

 

[GreyCrow]

Some of the thinking behind Zodiac and BTK is they accessed the house previously through utilities work. I wonder if they can link burglary reports prior to the attacks

"In 1976, while working in Exeter, DeAngelo was promoted to sergeant and put in charge of an anti-burglary team with another sergeant from a nearby department, according to a newspaper article from the time. DeAngelo “will investigate burglaries and attempt to prevent them by informing the public about burglary prevention methods,” according to the article. The team was called “Joint Attack on Burglary.”

Shocker.

https://heavy.com/news/2018/04/joseph-james-deangelo/

Can I get some love

 

[vast]

http://www.oxygen.com/joseph-james-deangelo-golden-state-killer-relative-rapes

His brother in law quoted below

Huddle recalled DeAngelo once casually bringing up the East Area Rapist case in the early 1970s.

"He actually asked me about it once," Huddle told Oxygen.com. "He said, 'What do you think of that East Area Rapist? What would you do, Jim?'"

Huddle said he told DeAngelo that he'd attack the rapist if he caught him.

Its like Dennis Rader seems his family didnt know.

 

[metic]

Short Interview with Paul Holes, cold case expert

 

[Dan Baker]

Was he highly transient? Or his resided in the same premises the whole time?

What was his new job post PD?

I am genuinely fascinated to understand how he got away with what he was doing.

The sheer volume and brazenness of the home invasions, especially the incidents in Sacramento are hard to comprehend

 

[Dan Baker]

Thats a nice cluster model. Where there is smoke, there is fire.
A good example of one persons capacity to do so much serial damage.

Some people say stop trying to connect crimes together.
Its actually trying to eliminate the crime. Finding an attribute that will eliminate that person from the crime.
Otherwise its just tunnel vision because a potential perp has not been tested against the crime.

Whats an attribute of Ted that would eliminate him from being the Zodiac?

Link back

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[Iworkthecircus]

Short Interview with Paul Holes, cold case expert

At 2.40 of the interview the investigators reaction sums of the value of actually doing detective work or lack there off.
And the 4 minute mark ...

 

[Kurve]

Well, someone in his family did dob him in without realising that's what they were doing.

Sacramento investigators tracked down East Area Rapist suspect Joseph James DeAngelo using genealogical websites that contained genetic information from a relative, the Sacramento County District Attorney’s Office confirmed Thursday.

The effort was part of a painstaking process that began by using DNA from one of the crime scenes from years ago and comparing it to genetic profiles available online through various websites that cater to individuals wanting to know more about their family backgrounds by accepting DNA samples from them, said Chief Deputy District Attorney Steve Grippi.

https://popularcrime.com/2018/04/26...racked-east-area-rapist-case-das-office-says/

 

[Kurve]

Criminology Podcast‏
Here's a segment of a profile done on the East Area Rapist / Golden State Killer See where the profile hit and missed with what we know about this offender now.

 

[metic]

Michelle McNamara interview 50min

 

[Bunk Moreland]

Well, someone in his family did dob him in without realising that's what they were doing.

Sacramento investigators tracked down East Area Rapist suspect Joseph James DeAngelo using genealogical websites that contained genetic information from a relative, the Sacramento County District Attorney’s Office confirmed Thursday.

The effort was part of a painstaking process that began by using DNA from one of the crime scenes from years ago and comparing it to genetic profiles available online through various websites that cater to individuals wanting to know more about their family backgrounds by accepting DNA samples from them, said Chief Deputy District Attorney Steve Grippi.

https://popularcrime.com/2018/04/26...racked-east-area-rapist-case-das-office-says/

One of those online DNA tests where they claim you can find out what part of the world you’re from?

Wow. Ol Joe will be wrapt with whichever family member did that

 

[MaddAdam]

That DNA element is pretty full on.

If you take what we've learned about Facebook and your private info and apply it to DNA, well, hmmm.