The Perth Thread - Part 4

[Scotland]

WA doing things a bit differently to other states for no apparent reason is what makes us us.

MWAGA.

 

[kane249]

And of course, Coventry Village was jam packed and it's difficult to see how they solve the constant car park and traffic issues for that place. I now park closer to the Galleria and the former Morley Markets and walk across the road if I must visit during peak times.

Solution might be to close that section of Walter Road and create parking there to connect it to the Galleria?

But would cause traffic chaos as you have to route everyone around.

Cost of sinking Walter Road there would be too expensive as well

 

[Billy ray]

WA doing things a bit differently to other states for no apparent reason is what makes us us.

MWAGA.

now its only Qld that doesnt have Kings bday in June

 

[Scotland]

now its only Qld that doesnt have Kings bday in June

You can have Katter Day in November.

 

[Billy ray]

You can have Katter Day in November.

he is our Sherriff

 

[JackOutback]

I thought Easter Saturday was already a public holiday. Used to get more for working it in retail.

Happy to have more public holidays but seems like a lot of unnecessary moving parts. Just needed to create a new one in November and be done with it.

What happens to Foundation Day derby? Foundation Day became WA Day and now WA Day is in November. Way to acknowledge history.

Neither the Premier, nor Opposition leader, could remember the details of the date. Zempilas thought it was the day Helena Dance cut down a tree to mark the beginning of the colony but got the date wrong, Cook knew it wasn't that but also got the month of the tree cutting down wrong. June 1 was the day Stirling proclaimed the Swan River Colony from a boat after striking a reef. Frankly, not sure it's history important enough to warrant a date.

The whole point of changing the name from Foundation Day to WA Day was because a proclamation to claim the land for the UK was hardly indicative of our overall history in the first pace.

 

[JackOutback]

You can have Katter Day in November.

Don't you say that! It irritates me. I've punched people in the mouth for saying that.

 

[Scotland]

Neither the Premier, nor Opposition leader, could remember the details of the date. Zempilas thought it was the day Helena Dance cut down a tree to mark the beginning of the colony but got the date wrong, Cook knew it wasn't that but also got the month of the tree cutting down wrong. June 1 was the day Stirling proclaimed the Swan River Colony from a boat after striking a reef. Frankly, not sure it's history important enough to warrant a date.

They are both idiots. Do they not have staff? Smartphones? Wikipedia? Not sure someone not remembering something is cause to change it. People think all sorts of historical inaccuracies about 26th January before you even get into objections over it.

The whole point of changing the name from Foundation Day to WA Day was because a proclamation to claim the land for the UK was hardly indicative of our overall history in the first pace.

It's really just appeasing the unappeasable. Change the name, then change the date... the history hasn't changed.

If the powers that be wanted to be more inclusive and have a Spring public holiday they could've done something around Kambarang rather than move King's Birthday to June (the current king is actually born in November not that it really matters) and create a new date for WA Day out of thin air.

Or......... keep all the usual suspects but you can have back King's Birthday and WA Day (neither of which anyone really cares about) and we get a day off for each Noongar season - which aren't tied to specific dates so can always be Mondays and Fridays? Good deal.

 

[Forward Press]

They are both idiots. Do they not have staff? Smartphones? Wikipedia? Not sure someone not remembering something is cause to change it. People think all sorts of historical inaccuracies about 26th January before you even get into objections over it.



It's really just appeasing the unappeasable. Change the name, then change the date... the history hasn't changed.

If the powers that be wanted to be more inclusive and have a Spring public holiday they could've done something around Kambarang rather than move King's Birthday to June (the current king is actually born in November not that it really matters) and create a new date for WA Day out of thin air.

Or......... keep all the usual suspects but you can have back King's Birthday and WA Day (neither of which anyone really cares about) and we get a day off for each Noongar season - which aren't tied to specific dates so can always be Mondays and Fridays? Good deal.

Even the current King's/Queen's Birthday in England itself was traditionally always in June due to better weather. There is no regal importance behind it, it is merely an excuse for a day off in possibly good weather.

I like these new public holidays even if it's effectively rebranding because people don't really care that much about why you have a day off - just that you have a day off. And I do support removing the last vestiges of Foundation Day by moving it from the Monday closest to June 4, 1829 which, unless you are a history buff or serially online to moan about woke, people actually have little idea what that date is about. There is no importance behind it any more, hasn't been since before 2012 or whenever it was officially changed.

If you want to complain about small businesses shelling out penalty rates for two extra holidays, whatever (as the Libs and Chamber of Commerce and Industry, surprise surprise, are doing), but I thought there wouldn't be much logical opposition to getting rid of the connection to Foundation Day once and for all.

 

[JackOutback]

They are both idiots. Do they not have staff? Smartphones? Wikipedia? Not sure someone not remembering something is cause to change it. People think all sorts of historical inaccuracies about 26th January before you even get into objections over it.



It's really just appeasing the unappeasable. Change the name, then change the date... the history hasn't changed.

If the powers that be wanted to be more inclusive and have a Spring public holiday they could've done something around Kambarang rather than move King's Birthday to June (the current king is actually born in November not that it really matters) and create a new date for WA Day out of thin air.

Or......... keep all the usual suspects but you can have back King's Birthday and WA Day (neither of which anyone really cares about) and we get a day off for each Noongar season - which aren't tied to specific dates so can always be Mondays and Fridays? Good deal.

It was an off-the-cuff question, not delivered in advance. And neither knew, not because they are idiots but because I think 99 out of 100 West Australians wouldn’t even know the name Helena Dance, let alone the story of the tree and date. I doubt the majority know the connection between WA Day and James Stirling any more. It was distanced from the event with the name change 12 years ago, by a Liberal government. Now it will be distanced more so by a date change from a Labor government. I don’t think there’s a culture war to be had here. No one was demanding it be changed in the same way as January 26.

The story of James Stirling is but one small part of WA’s story, we recognise it wasn’t the beginning of a society in this state. A random date is as good as any at this point.

 

[HitTheNailOnTheHead]

Neither the Premier, nor Opposition leader, could remember the details of the date. Zempilas thought it was the day Helena Dance cut down a tree to mark the beginning of the colony but got the date wrong, Cook knew it wasn't that but also got the month of the tree cutting down wrong. June 1 was the day Stirling proclaimed the Swan River Colony from a boat after striking a reef. Frankly, not sure it's history important enough to warrant a date.

To add to that, another ship, The Challenger commanded by Charles Fremantle, arrived in WA in late April and claimed the "Western Coast of New Holland" for the British Crown on May the 2nd. The Parmelia didn't arrive off the coast near Garden Island until 31 May and then struck a reef as you say near Carnac Island on the same day. Some accounts say that Stirling then officially proclaimed the establishment of the Swan River Colony while they were still stuck on the boat (on June 1) while others say he didn't officially proclaim the Colony until the 18th of June, so the dates are all over the place.

 

[Madas]

It was an off-the-cuff question, not delivered in advance. And neither knew, not because they are idiots but because I think 99 out of 100 West Australians wouldn’t even know the name Helena Dance, let alone the story of the tree and date. I doubt the majority know the connection between WA Day and James Stirling any more. It was distanced from the event with the name change 12 years ago, by a Liberal government. Now it will be distanced more so by a date change from a Labor government. I don’t think there’s a culture war to be had here. No one was demanding it be changed in the same way as January 26.

The story of James Stirling is but one small part of WA’s story, we recognise it wasn’t the beginning of a society in this state. A random date is as good as any at this point.

To add to that, another ship, The Challenger commanded by Charles Fremantle, arrived in WA in late April and claimed the "Western Coast of New Holland" for the British Crown on May the 2nd. The Parmelia didn't arrive off the coast near Garden Island until 31 May and then struck a reef as you say near Carnac Island on the same day. Some accounts say that Stirling then officially proclaimed the establishment of the Swan River Colony while they were still stuck on the boat (on June 1) while others say he didn't officially proclaim the Colony until the 18th of June, so the dates are all over the place.

So to save any confusion would a simpler title for the day be perhaps
“ F**k the Boss and Get On the Piss Day “?

 

[CakeEater]

So to save any confusion would a simpler title for the day be perhaps
“ F**k the Boss and Get On the Piss Day “?

Isnt that what its collequially called anyways?
That and spend 4 hrs coming through the Busselton bypass day?

 

[Channels]

Can’t see Myer closing - one of the staff was saying that it’s one of the busiest stores and given how hard it is to park at karrinyup and city, I’m not surprised

I don't understand who shops at Myer. Literally not a single reason for me to go in one.

 

[Madas]

I don't understand who shops at Myer. Literally not a single reason for me to go in one.

So you aren’t in the market for handbags and perfume?

 

[Beerfish]

 

[JackOutback]

Is it though?

 

[ioppolo]

I like the gradual easing into it rather than jumping straight to 30 then straight to 37+

 

[WA ROO]

Western Power are a pack of nuffies
7 hr scheduled shutdown now out to 31 hours with no power

 

[blueboy25]

Western Power are a pack of nuffies
7 hr scheduled shutdown now out to 31 hours with no power

I had a scheduled shutdown on sunday which was meant to be from 8am -5pm. Power was back on before midday.

 

[CakeEater]

Western Power are a pack of nuffies
7 hr scheduled shutdown now out to 31 hours with no power

in Kalvegas?

 

[WA ROO]

in Kalvegas?

Near Guilderton

 

[Kram]

Western Power are a pack of nuffies
7 hr scheduled shutdown now out to 31 hours with no power

With them it's usually 5 blokes standing around watching 2 blokes actually work.

 

[WA ROO]

With them it's usually 5 blokes standing around watching 2 blokes actually work.

Lol
Yesterday morning during the scheduled outage there was at least 10 shirkers and one worker onsite

 

[Scotland]

At this point Summer can be 40 for weeks on end for all I care.