The Perth Thread

[Teriyakicat]

Some people get stuck working 7-5 Mon-Sat in busy periods. The 7pm weekday closing for supermarkets was a godsend for me, actually had a chance to pop in for stuff once I made it home.

IGA is open every weekend and until 9/10pm every day in most suburbs. I don't see what the problem was wrt the staples.

Half the time the people now working 7am-9pm are the poor bloody shopkeepers and the staff that are rostered on every weekend for an enormous amount of businesses who are now open 7 days a week.

I feel sorry for the families who are now missing Mum or Dad every weekend when the kids play their sports, for the grandparents who now have to babysit weekends, as well as during the week or for the poor taxpayers who end up subsidising day care for these families- and for the workers themselves who miss out on being able to play footy/netball/soccer/ because they're working every Saturday or those who can't get a job because they can't commit to working every weekend.

 

[kfc1]

IGA is open every weekend and until 9/10pm every day in most suburbs. I don't see what the problem was wrt the staples.

That's the stupid thing. How can you be against Sunday trading but OK with IGA being open?

 

[Teriyakicat]

Aisle 6

Oh thanks, Kane! Somehow I never seem to get past the lolly aisle!

 

[Smeg Head]

Oh thanks, Kane! Somehow I never seem to get past the lolly aisle!

Mmmm licorice by the scoop.

 

[BALKAN]

IGA is open every weekend and until 9/10pm every day in most suburbs. I don't see what the problem was wrt the staples.

Half the time the people now working 7am-9pm are the poor bloody shopkeepers and the staff that are rostered on every weekend for an enormous amount of businesses who are now open 7 days a week.

I feel sorry for the families who are now missing Mum or Dad every weekend when the kids play their sports, for the grandparents who now have to babysit weekends, as well as during the week or for the poor taxpayers who end up subsidising day care for these families- and for the workers themselves who miss out on being able to play footy/netball/soccer/ because they're working every Saturday or those who can't get a job because they can't commit to working every weekend.

You're making the situation sound a lot more dire than what it really is IMO
These businesses are generally pretty flexible with their hours. Unless you are a Chinese family who owns a deli or newsagency in which case you have to practically live there.

 

[Illinois Nazi]

So what do we all do with ourselves on this "day of rest"? Given that nothing is open, no cafes, no bars, no restaurants, no theme parks, no sporting events? It's bad enough listening to everyone whinge their way through Good Friday once a year.

 

[The Speaker]

Lol @ people being against Sunday trading. #JustPerthThings

#JustParisThings
#JustMunichThings
#JustGenevaThings
#JustBudapestThings
#JustBarcelonaThings

 

[BALKAN]

So what do we all do with ourselves on this "day of rest"? Given that nothing is open, no cafes, no bars, no restaurants, no theme parks, no sporting events? It's bad enough listening to everyone whinge their way through Good Friday once a year.

The Speaker 's vision of utopian Perth

 

[The Speaker]

The Speaker 's vision of utopian Perth

Using a modified version of the 'oh but it's outdated' argument doesn't change the emptiness of such an argument.

 

[Illinois Nazi]

Using a modified version of the 'oh but it's outdated' argument doesn't change the emptiness of such an argument.

So what do you suggest we'll do on our day of rest then?

 

[Teriyakicat]

You're making the situation sound a lot more dire than what it really is IMO
These businesses are generally pretty flexible with their hours. Unless you are a Chinese family who owns a deli or newsagency in which case you have to practically live there.

Yeah- we have a middle aged Asian couple who own the deli near us. I see them working pretty hard. Mans my neighbours had a deli at Southlands when their kids were young- one parent left home at 5am, the other picked up the kids at 3, brought them to the shop for Parent 1 to take home and then parent 2 would finish at 9pm.

As for flexibility with the big companies, they want kids for weekend shifts and public holidays. I the kids aren't there when needed, the hours dry up pretty fast. Yeah, flexible to some extent but they don't want 100 kids on their books and have them all disappear at exam time or when the footy season comes around. And that is understandable. I can see it from the POV of both sides.

 

[The Speaker]

So what do we all do with ourselves on this "day of rest"? Given that nothing is open, no cafes, no bars, no restaurants, no theme parks, no sporting events? It's bad enough listening to everyone whinge their way through Good Friday once a year.

So what do you suggest we'll do on our day of rest then?

You've made quite a jump there, haven't you? This was about retail trading, which is where most of the impact of Sunday trading lies.

 

[kfc1]

Illinois Nazi probably remembers when you couldn't buy petrol on Sundays except at particular service stations which were rostered on. And maybe a little before his time you couldn't buy alcohol in Perth on a Sunday - only in country towns if you were a 'bonafide traveler' so people used to drive from Perth to Rockingham just to sink a few beers

 

[Teriyakicat]

So what do we all do with ourselves on this "day of rest"? Given that nothing is open, no cafes, no bars, no restaurants, no theme parks, no sporting events? It's bad enough listening to everyone whinge their way through Good Friday once a year.

Do we need to have someone give us something to keep us amused for every day of the year?
Whatever happened to people's creativity?
Coffee at home- buy a coffee machine.
Cook your own meals- no need for restaurants to be open.
Bars- you got a fridge? And a BBQ? Invite some friends over and drink your fridge dry.
Theme parks? Sporting events? You seriously need that EVERY single weekend?

 

[BALKAN]

Do we need to have someone give us something to keep us amused for every day of the year?
Whatever happened to people's creativity?
Coffee at home- buy a coffee machine.
Cook your own meals- no need for restaurants to be open.
Bars- you got a fridge? And a BBQ? Invite some friends over and drink your fridge dry.
Theme parks? Sporting events? You seriously need that EVERY single weekend?

Nobody goes to a theme park or sporting event every weekend, but wouldn't it be equally bad to have to do all that shit you listed every single weekend? Maybe you want to occasionally indulge in eating out or seeing a movie. BRB stay home campaigner and make your own coffee.

 

[Teriyakicat]

Nobody goes to a theme park or sporting event every weekend, but wouldn't it be equally bad to have to do all that shit you listed every single weekend? Maybe you want to occasionally indulge in eating out or seeing a movie. BRB stay home campaigner and make your own coffee.

IIRC, you were talking about doing these things on a "day of rest"- ie one day each week (I assumed). So so those things on the other day of the weekend, perhaps?

Who are you calling a campaigner anyway? I hope that wasn't directed at me.

 

[Smeg Head]

#JustBarcelonaThings

Spain / Catalan with their break through the middle of the day, dinner at 10pm and generally avoiding the middle of the day heat while doing stuff into the night. Now that would be brilliant here in summer considering the shared climate.

 

[Teriyakicat]

Spain / Catalan with their break through the middle of the day, dinner at 10pm and generally avoiding the middle of the day heat while doing stuff into the night. Now that would be brilliant here in summer considering the shared climate.

The Italians eat very late - and I think they also have a break in the middle of the day.
It'd take me forever to get used to that, I reckon!

 

[Drumroe]

I dont think Ive ever met a person who hates Sunday trading who is actually one the people 'forced' to work that so many people argue for. Dont think anyone 'has' to work it, people who do are usually happy to with penalty rates etc. People just get up in arms about issues that dont really affect them.

 

[Smeg Head]

The Italians eat very late - and I think they also have a break in the middle of the day.
It'd take me forever to get used to that, I reckon!

Not that late, but Im a late dinner type and a night owl when I dont have the early starts. I would do just fine.

 

[The Speaker]

Spain / Catalan with their break through the middle of the day, dinner at 10pm and generally avoiding the middle of the day heat while doing stuff into the night. Now that would be brilliant here in summer considering the shared climate.

Sure would. As would houses with high roofs.

 

[Smeg Head]

Sure would. As would houses with high roofs.

Oh god, urban planning is one of those random things that sets me off. **** new estates are the pits. Clear fell the lot, roof to roof with one shitty fake sculpted park. See some steeper angles occasionally, couple with the real snowy European A shaped peaks around.

 

[Teriyakicat]

I dont think Ive ever met a person who hates Sunday trading who is actually one the people 'forced' to work that so many people argue for. Dont think anyone 'has' to work it, people who do are usually happy to with penalty rates etc. People just get up in arms about issues that dont really affect them.

I have spoken to plenty of checkout chicks who'd rather not be working on weekends...

On the flip side- I've also spoken to a few (a much smaller proportion, however) who love the evening work after Uni and picking up weekend shifts. It depends on who you talk to, I guess.

 

[BALKAN]

I have spoken to plenty of checkout chicks who'd rather not be working on weekends...

If they're high school or Uni students then it's one of those things you just have to suck up.
If they're older and have families then it would be worse that they don't get the shifts they prefer.

 

[Teriyakicat]

If they're high school or Uni students then it's one of those things you just have to suck up.
If they're older and have families then it would be worse that they don't get the shifts they prefer.

That's true- and they do. They know if they don't show up, they won't have ANY shifts.

My son works in retail part time and his boss is really good but often forgets he isn't available on certain days that he attends Uni and my son is forever going in and giving them his available days. The boss is also very understanding when it comes to exam time, as well- and there's always a bit of give and take. e.g. my son tries to help out at short notice if he can, and the boss doesn't ask him to do more than one or two shorter shifts during study week.