The Perth Thread

[gaskin]

Supermarket Doughnuts > Krispy Kreme

 

[stormee]

Supermarket Doughnuts > Krispy Kreme

Perth's Krispy Kreme hysteria is one of those things where you're like 'people won't line up for it, surely... it's not that good.' Then when they start lining up you're like 'it'll be over soon, just a few bogans.' A couple of days later when people are camped out and the riot police are there trying to break things up you give up your optimism and just think 'ok perth, you've proved once again you're the bogan capital of the universe, I give up.'

 

[Catsmaninamerica]

Daylight saving is great unless you're a provincial idiot who hates it because the "Eastern states" do it.

You've just described half of Perth. Literally.

 

[Illinois Nazi]

Saw woman on the train with a couple of bags of Krispy Kreme's. Must have lined up on behalf of the whole office.

 

[Underdog]

I actually don't find any advantage in Daylight Savings. Only really disadvantages. I have young kids that go to bed by 7:30 so it's not like I can be out in the sunshine and I prefer dusk and the early evening anyway.

 

[Stronzo]

Daylight savings is over rated.

I always thought it would make more sense to do it in winter.

 

[Scotland]

Daylight savings is over rated.

I always thought it would make more sense to do it in winter.

Then the sun would rise at 8.15am. Pretty much everyone working business hours would be commuting to work in the dark.

 

[Stronzo]

Then the sun would rise at 8.15am. Pretty much everyone working business hours would be commuting to work in the dark.

That's why we have street lights.

 

[Scotland]

That's why we have street lights.

The reward at the other end of the day is sunset at 6.30 instead of 5.30. Not worth it.

 

[Kram]

If you have to work outside having it in winter would be even more annoying than summer.

 

[Stronzo]

The reward at the other end of the day is sunset at 6.30 instead of 5.30. Not worth it.

Rationing sunlight when it is plentiful doesn't make a great deal of sense to me, but rationing it when it's sparce does.

 

[Teriyakicat]

I find having the sun go down that 1 hour earlier in summer -with no DS - often makes all the difference between falling asleep quickly or tossing and turning restlessly in the heat.
I'm happy with the status quo but I won't be hitting the streets in protest if DS was brought back in. Sometimes you've just gotta suck it up, don't you?

 

[Teriyakicat]

Rationing sunlight when it is plentiful doesn't make a great deal of sense to me, but rationing it when it's sparce does.

Hmmm- not sure if you actually get what DS is...

 

[Scotland]

Rationing sunlight when it is plentiful doesn't make a great deal of sense to me, but rationing it when it's sparce does.

DLS is about making the most of the available sunlight.

In the middle of winter you basically have 7.15-5.30. In the middle of summer it's 5.15-7.30.

Most people are working (including commuting to and from work) between 7am and 6pm. Sunlight at 5am is wasted by anyone whose day starts at 7. If you make sunrise 6am then you get sunset at 8.30 in the evening, giving 2 hours+ of useable sunlight during the evening, so people playing tennis etc. aren't doing it under floodlights. Some like it, some don't - hence the endless referendums.

Doing it over winter doesn't achieve anything as there are only 10 hours of sunlight to work with in the first place.

 

[Teriyakicat]

I know a lot of people who prefer to do their exercise early in the morning before they go to work, rather than in the heat of the late afternoon. My daughter swims in the evening and the pool is overly warm with high chlorine at 5.30 PM (no DS) but lovely if she is training in the morning at 5.30 am. I can imagine it'd be even more uncomfortable in the evening if we had DS.

 

[Scotland]

Yep, DLS is far from a necessity. You can exercise in the morning/evening with or without DLS.

I couldn't think of anything worse than swimming at 5.30am, but each to their own.

 

[Kram]

Most jobs I've had even in Perth with a commute added I've generally got home at about 4-4.30 at the latest, when you then have to go to bed reasonably early I don't need or want anymore daylight when winding down.. It's just a personal and selfish preference what people like either way, what I find really funny is peanuts that make out it's somehow backwards not having it and that it's progressive or something fiddling with all the clocks. And the best they can come up with against 'no' people is incredibly lame jokes about curtains and cows.

 

[gaskin]

I don't want it because it doesn't improve my life. I can get everything I need or want done in the regular daylight hours.

 

[Kram]

I know a lot of people who prefer to do their exercise early in the morning before they go to work, rather than in the heat of the late afternoon. My daughter swims in the evening and the pool is overly warm with high chlorine at 5.30 PM (no DS) but lovely if she is training in the morning at 5.30 am. I can imagine it'd be even more uncomfortable in the evening if we had DS.

An outdoor pool? If so I don't think I've ever found it in SW WA too warm even for training.

 

[Teriyakicat]

Yep, DLS is far from a necessity. You can exercise in the morning/evening with or without DLS.

I couldn't think of anything worse than swimming at 5.30am, but each to their own.

It's the coaches who set the training times- and it's so the kids can finish at 7, shower, eat, then get to school.

 

[Teriyakicat]

An outdoor pool? If so I don't think I've ever found it in SW WA too warm even for training.

Nah- indoor. Training at Challenge, Riverton, South Lakes, Melville and others is all done indoors. A lot of pools don't have a suitable outdoor option. (I think Freo club swim outdoors all year around)

The problem in summer is that, as the water warms up, the chlorine levels must be increased and, as the number of bodies in the water increase, the chlorine levels increase even further.
Two years ago, one of the kids who trained regularly (6 sessions in the water), ended up with a burned oesophagus and other kids had troubled with breathing and eye irritations because of the really high Cl. Usually if it's really bad, the coach takes the kids outdoors and does dryland work instead but these kids are training for state and Nationals competitions so they need to be in the water as much as they can as per their training schedule. (They also have a separate gym component so extra dryland work isn't as beneficial as actual swimming would be- if that makes sense?)

 

[Underdog]

Most people are working (including commuting to and from work) between 7am and 6pm. Sunlight at 5am is wasted by anyone whose day starts at 7.

One of my biggest annoyances in this matter is the pro DLS crew banging on about 'wasted' sunlight (not having a go at you BTW). It's as if they can't comprehend that some like the evening.

I feel I already have enough sunlight after work, and in summer, I love the dusk and early evenings where it's slightly cooler and your not getting pounded by the sun. Additionally, if I go for jogs in summer, it's after the sun goes down, so all it does is push back my activity later into the night. That then can interrupt sleep patterns. I actually exercise less with DLS

 

[LukasTheGreat]

Daylight savings doesnt phase me. I just spend all day inside on BigFooty anyway.

 

[Bunk Moreland]

I quite like the short ferry trip across the Swan River.

A ferry trip across a river?

How about a bridge?

 

[Underdog]

A ferry trip across a river?

How about a bridge?

Do you understand how wide the Swan River is in parts? It's not the Yarra.