The Perth Thread

[Upgrayedd]

Drive to the station
#justperfthings

URg, used to park at the carlisle train station, Untill they started charging for you to park in the dirt a K down the road and your car would be broken into if you wern't back by sunset.

#justperfthings

 

[Teriyakicat]

URg, used to park at the carlisle train station, Untill they started charging for you to park in the dirt a K down the road and your car would be broken into if you wern't back by sunset.

#justperfthings

Noice, very noice!

 

[Teriyakicat]

Missus has a company parking bay in Ozzie Park. We calculated that it was cheaper to drive than it is to pay for two adults from Cockburn to Glendalough.

Then again, I am actually one of those guys that likes driving even if it is in a traffic jam

Weirdo!!
Cockburn was the station that I was speaking of, above.
It's kind of a challenge to get out of that place in peak hour with your sanity intact, isn't it?

 

[Nothing]

I think if the merging is done further back, it's smoother. If there are 20 cars parked at the obstruction, with nowhere to go, it forces the cars in the open lanes to stop to let them in, thus the domino effect is felt all the way back in the line.
Obviously, when the traffic is totally bogged down, neither merging closer or further back will make any difference but I was referring more to lighter traffic that is flowing leading up to the closed lane. Not sure if I've explained that very well.

So you end up with 1 empty lane and 1 lane of traffic 2km long. If people merged efficiently (therein lies the problem) by far the most efficient way to move traffic is for the traffic to occupy both lanes for as far as possible. Jeremy Clarkson has a rant about just this on Top Gear. It's 'polite' but really inefficient. The problem with it being considered 'polite' is that if you do what should happen people wont let you in because they think they have done the right thing.

 

[gaskin]

Weirdo!!
Cockburn was the station that I was speaking of, above.
It's kind of a challenge to get out of that place in peak hour with your sanity intact, isn't it?

Cockburn is my station as well and I concur, it's a shit of a place to get out of.

 

[Silent Alarm]

Bob Hope came to Australia forty years ago and said how Perth in the 70s reminded him of LA in the 50s. Everyone thought it was a huge compliment but in actuality it was a massive critique of our sprawl, lack of density, and obsession with cars.

Would even truer today.

 

[Illinois Nazi]

So you end up with 1 empty lane and 1 lane of traffic 2km long. If people merged efficiently (therein lies the problem) by far the most efficient way to move traffic is for the traffic to occupy both lanes for as far as possible. Jeremy Clarkson has a rant about just this on Top Gear. It's 'polite' but really inefficient. The problem with it being considered 'polite' is that if you do what should happen people wont let you in because they think they have done the right thing.

There's a balance. You want people to merge while still moving along, not coming to a stop and then pushing their way across and forcing the other lane to stop as well.

The problem really is that so many drivers don't appear to notice that the lane ahead is closed until their bonnet is touching the barrier.

 

[Kram]

hey, i resent that ... but i would still have to agree

haha, it must irritate you being Asian when half the muppets on the road believe in a stereotype and most of them are probably in reality crap drivers themselves.

 

[Nothing]

There's a balance. You want people to merge while still moving along, not coming to a stop and then pushing their way across and forcing the other lane to stop as well.

The problem really is that so many drivers don't appear to notice that the lane ahead is closed until their bonnet is touching the barrier.

Absolutely, which comes back to the inability of people to efficiently merge. But, ideally, you want to be merging as close to the barrier and whilst still moving.

 

[Teriyakicat]

So you end up with 1 empty lane and 1 lane of traffic 2km long. If people merged efficiently (therein lies the problem) by far the most efficient way to move traffic is for the traffic to occupy both lanes for as far as possible. Jeremy Clarkson has a rant about just this on Top Gear. It's 'polite' but really inefficient. The problem with it being considered 'polite' is that if you do what should happen people wont let you in because they think they have done the right thing.

I guess you're taking an example of the other extreme- but I'm not advocating merging that far back. In fact I'm pretty sure you couldn't even tell that far back that the road was actually closed anyway.
There's a middle ground there, which I think Illinois Nazi has expressed quite well.

 

[UFO Tatsu]

Weirdo!!
Cockburn was the station that I was speaking of, above.
It's kind of a challenge to get out of that place in peak hour with your sanity intact, isn't it?

Yup, made the mistake of picking up my wife from the Armadale side and end up stuck for around 45mins.

It is because of the stupid design of the exit. They should make the exit left turn only. Even though, you end up driving a long way around but at least you can get out of the freaking place.

haha, it must irritate you being Asian when half the muppets on the road believe in a stereotype and most of them are probably in reality crap drivers themselves.

Not really as I am probably one of those muppets "Stupid Asian driver" is a common phrase to come out of my mouth. The wife likes to point out the irony of my statement

But I am noticing that driving standards have definitely be worsening over the past 10 years and the main culprits aren't really Asian drivers.

 

[The_Reaper]

haha, it must irritate you being Asian when half the muppets on the road believe in a stereotype and most of them are probably in reality crap drivers themselves.

My mother's really sensitive about it. Everytime I complain about a bad driver or she hears about some bad driving she always asks "were they Chinese?"

 

[Teriyakicat]

Yup, made the mistake of picking up my wife from the Armadale side and end up stuck for around 45mins.

It is because of the stupid design of the exit. They should make the exit left turn only. Even though, you end up driving a long way around but at least you can get out of the freaking place.

Unfortunately I think I'll be moving before they fix that exit. I don't know why they can't make an exit coming out of the back carpark that leads to Cutler and out to the freeway, though I guess the right-turning drivers will use that back way to get out and turn onto Solomon anyway.
Hopefully the new road crossing the freeway from Nth Lake Rd will help.
(Just had a thought- they might close that whole entrance to Armadale Rd and force people to turn left and use the new road, once it's in place. Think it's meant to come out through Verde, just next to Cutler.)

You could ask your wife to walk over to the petrol station for pick up. I go north so sometimes ask my kids to walk to the truck place on the corner. Or tell them not to come home till after 6 PM

 

[Chris_6678]

I am in Hillarys and work in the CBD and catch the train each day, leave the office at 5pm and pretty much walk in the door at 5.40 in time fo the sport segment on the channel 10 news.

Have my head down reading a book for most of the trip but sometimes have a look out the window at the car park they call the mitchell freeway.

I work in North Perth and commute from Joondalup and all the people in the office laugh about me catching public transport but to be honest it isn't that bad at all i get a sit almost every time and just chill out playing games on my phone or read a book. Saves me a hell of lot of money on fuel and parking and the frustration of driving in.

 

[UFO Tatsu]

Unfortunately I think I'll be moving before they fix that exit. I don't know why they can't make an exit coming out of the back carpark that leads to Cutler and out to the freeway, though I guess the right-turning drivers will use that back way to get out and turn onto Solomon anyway.
Hopefully the new road crossing the freeway from Nth Lake Rd will help.
(Just had a thought- they might close that whole entrance to Armadale Rd and force people to turn left and use the new road, once it's in place. Think it's meant to come out through Verde, just next to Cutler.)

You could ask your wife to walk over to the petrol station for pick up. I go north so sometimes ask my kids to walk to the truck place on the corner. Or tell them not to come home till after 6 PM

We learnt to use the other side of the Cockburn station and if she is in a good mood, we might stop by Cockburn Gateway

 

[Teriyakicat]

We learnt to use the other side of the Cockburn station and if she is in a good mood, we might stop by Cockburn Gateway

Shouldn't that read if YOU'RE in a good mood? I'd think the lady would always be up for a bit of shopping

 

[UFO Tatsu]

Shouldn't that read if YOU'RE in a good mood? I'd think the lady would always be up for a bit of shopping

like that actually matters

 

[gaskin]

Yup, made the mistake of picking up my wife from the Armadale side and end up stuck for around 45mins.

It is because of the stupid design of the exit. They should make the exit left turn only. Even though, you end up driving a long way around but at least you can get out of the freaking place.

It should be 2 exit lanes- one turning right and one turning left.

 

[Forward Press]

Talking of Cockburn - what is the correct pronunciation? I know us Perthians/Perthites/Perthies? go by Coburn but I'd like the real historical intention of how it's meant to be pronounced.

inb4cockburndockerslol

 

[The Speaker]

Talking of Cockburn - what is the correct pronunciation? I know us Perthians/Perthites/Perthies? go by Coburn but I'd like the real historical intention of how it's meant to be pronounced.

inb4cockburndockerslol

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cockburn_(surname)

 

[Teriyakicat]

It should be 2 exit lanes- one turning right and one turning left.

Yeah, it'd be great if the left-turners could do so without having to wait for the R turners. You know what'd happen, though, the right turners would all go into the L turning lane, turn left, then try and do a U-turn a little further up...

Not sure where they'll get that lane space from, though- eat into Soltoggio's on the left or cut into an already overstuffed carpark?

Good plan, though- maybe the railways people could hire you on a contract to fix that. I'm sure you could nut out a better plan than the current model!

 

[Teriyakicat]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cockburn_(surname)

Thanks for clearing that up- so no K sound?

 

[Teriyakicat]

Talking of Cockburn - what is the correct pronunciation? I know us Perthians/Perthites/Perthies? go by Coburn but I'd like the real historical intention of how it's meant to be pronounced.

inb4cockburndockerslol

hahaha
That will provide endless amusement for the non-Perth AFL people
I drove past the area yesterday. Looks like it's mostly cleared away and flattened now. Did that land belong to Tony Ale once upon a time? I know he owned a huge area just around there.

 

[Kram]

No matter how many times I see the name I still often forget it's a silent k.

 

[Scotland]

It's not about forgetting, it's about ignoring.