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Probably someone was guessing at the time, the witnesses or Lees, who is the one that stated Murdoch moved the Kombi and that's when she ran for it. If I was in a life or death situation I wouldn't be looking at my watch, if I was wearing one. Also remember how dark it was so good luck checking the time. Don't forget that she'd been smoking dope not long before so who knows how out of it she was.You are emphasising my point thou? This doesn't make sense. If Murdoch moved the kombi immediately at the time of attack (around 8pm) why did 2 wittnesses at (10-midnight) see the Kombi on the side of the road?
Probably someone was guessing at the time, the witnesses or Lees, who is the one that stated Murdoch moved the Kombi and that's when she ran for it. If I was in a life or death situation I wouldn't be looking at my watch, if I was wearing one. Also remember how dark it was so good luck checking the time. Don't forget that she'd been smoking dope not long before so who knows how out of it she was.
Probably because it was there when they drove past.Not her thou. Why did 2 pensioners driving past see the Kombi on the side of the road?
Not her thou. Why did 2 pensioners driving past see the Kombi on the side of the road?
What do you think happened Run? I suspect you might have a theory skimming around in there ..
If the bang was a backfire, why all the blood at the scene? I also don't get why anyone thinks it wasn't Murdoch. A timeline thing? Watch this:
Nah, he was a suspect from early on and they needed his DNA to help prove their case. It just so happened that he was charged with the other matter in SA, which gave them the opportunity to get his DNA. That's pretty straightforward Shelly. They could have got his DNA by other means but being incarcerated in SA made it easier for them. Take the DNA out? Why?It seems to me from this (other reading) and was the defence from the start that Murdoch was set up on charges in SA which allowed the authorities to formally get his DNA so it could be used in the Falconio case. (How could they be so sure it would be a match to Lees T shirt unless they already had a sample independent of the scene? If so, where did they get it from, which lab processed it, was it the same lab that processed the T shirt, where was it held, where is it now?) The players in this are a bunch of self interested scumbags, including his mate Hepi who colluded with the police to pin the murder on Murdoch in exchange for a better deal in his own criminal proceedings. The events that led to his arrest and conviction are questionable and throws the whole thing into doubt from there. Take the tiny amount of DNA out of evidence, no conviction imo.
He isn't one of the good guys, he's rough, an unsympathetic character but justice isn't a popularity contest.
I'm not 100% on the DNA found and where it was, I understood the only DNA link was particles on Joanne Lees jacket, which Murdoch claimed he got by brushing against here in KFC? Or a chicken shop(but do they have that fellows DNA at the scene or know that he was there at around the time of the incident as they do with Murdoch?) .
We've also heard that he was allergic (or something) to chicken, so didn't eat it, but still, his DNA was found on her top, which is more than we can say for Heinze. There were also partial matches of his DNA found, which I believe means that the chance it was him (using just the partial matches) is less, but there's the rest of the evidence as well, so on the whole it points to him (in the eyes of the jury who heard it all, unlike us).I'm not 100% on the DNA found and where it was, I understood the only DNA link was particles on Joanne Lees jacket, which Murdoch claimed he got by brushing against here in KFC? Or a chicken shop
We've also heard that he was allergic (or something) to chicken, so didn't eat it, but still, his DNA was found on her top, which is more than we can say for Heinze. There were also partial matches of his DNA found, which I believe means that the chance it was him (using just the partial matches) is less, but there's the rest of the evidence as well, so on the whole it points to him (in the eyes of the jury who heard it all, unlike us).
Defence claimed it "could have come" from the type of contamination you describe, not that it did.
I'd like to know what evidence points to the other guy.
On the CoorongI'd like to know where Roman Heinze was when Peter Falconio was murdered.
On the Coorong
Nah, he was a suspect from early on and they needed his DNA to help prove their case.
It just so happened that he was charged with the other matter in SA, which gave them the opportunity to get his DNA.
So Hepi dobbed Murdoch in and in an amazing coincidence his DNA was found on Lees and partial matches inside the Kombi. There's also video of someone who looks like him in the area at the time. Lees is shown a lineup and picks him out. We're starting to build a case... Again, what do we have against Heinze?He wasn't a suspect at all until Hepi, facing criminal charges and a jail term, decided to make him a suspect and do a deal with the cops.
It's my understanding that the two women who accused Murdoch of rape (he was cleared) were friends of Hepi, it's said to be motivated by victims compensation up to $100,000 I think it is. The amounts paid varies from state to state.
So Hepi dobbed Murdoch in and in an amazing coincidence his DNA was found on Lees and partial matches inside the Kombi. There's also video of someone who looks like him in the area at the time. Lees is shown a lineup and picks him out. We're starting to build a case... Again, what do we have against Heinze?
I have an open mind on this but even this raises some questions. Heinze MO is weaker figures ie single women or 2 in the latest case. Yet this one included a fit male and female? Possible but I wonderJoanne, at first said it wasn't Murdoch from his image. Peter Falconio was either murdered over a drugs/money dispute or he was killed to take Joanne in a sexually motivated crime. Which one was it? If Joanne isn't lying and I don't think she is, this has Roman Heinze's psychopathy all over it.
I never said there was anything concrete against Heinze except for being a better physical fit in the CCTV images (used in evidence) than Murdoch is, his history of abducting backpackers and of travelling all over Australia, thousands of kilometres just to get one in his car, having lived in NT for several years with a cattle dog, owning handguns one a silver revolver, sex toys including manacles and this is a guy who clearly wouldn't have a problem killing people with the arrogance or proved experience in thinking he could effectively handle two people and get away with it.
If the Murdoch conviction is safe, why would there be an issue in just finding out where Roman Heinze was on the night Peter Falconio was murdered?
IMO
(I'll get to the DNA later)
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I have an open mind on this but even this raises some questions. Heinze MO is weaker figures ie single women or 2 in the latest case. Yet this one included a fit male and female? Possible but I wonder
It could have been a drug deal (afterall, the pair were using drugs and Murdoch is a trafficker) and then Murdoch decided to take advantage of the situation/location to turn it into a murder/sex crime.Joanne, at first said it wasn't Murdoch from his image. Peter Falconio was either murdered over a drugs/money dispute or he was killed to take Joanne in a sexually motivated crime. Which one was it? If Joanne isn't lying and I don't think she is, this has Roman Heinze's psychopathy all over it.
I never said there was anything concrete against Heinze except for being a better physical fit in the CCTV images (used in evidence) than Murdoch is, his history of abducting backpackers and of travelling all over Australia, thousands of kilometres just to get one in his car, having lived in NT for several years with a cattle dog, owning handguns one a silver revolver, sex toys including manacles and this is a guy who clearly wouldn't have a problem killing people with the arrogance or proved experience in thinking he could effectively handle two people and get away with it.
If the Murdoch conviction is safe, why would there be an issue in just finding out where Roman Heinze was on the night Peter Falconio was murdered?
IMO
(I'll get to the DNA later)
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It could have been a drug deal (afterall, the pair were using drugs and Murdoch is a trafficker) and then Murdoch decided to take advantage of the situation/location to turn it into a murder/sex crime.
If Heinze carries manacles (?) why use cable ties on Lees? As for finding out where he was on the night, nobody, including me, could tell you where I was that night. It's not necessarily being hidden.
Then you can see why she kept quietAgree it's possible. Then Joanne Lees has lied, the case could probably have been solved much faster, at far less cost and the chances of finding Peter Falconio's body greatly increased had she told the truth and been prepared to face the consequences, whatever they might be I imagine in the end none but small loss of reputation against what now could be perjury, a serious offence penalty prison and issues with proceeds of crime.
Andrew Fraser (disgraced lawyer) case for Murdoch's release "all burns down to attacking Joanne Lees personally".
'excuse me sir why do you have cable ties in your car?'I couldn't tell you where I was either that night but my bank records might, or phone records. If I was Heinze and realised my stupid handmade cable tie cuffs didn't just look ridiculous but were ineffective and mocked by every self respecting sexual sadist across Australia, I'd probably upgrade and buy a decent set too.
Then you can see why she kept quiet
'excuse me sir why do you have cable ties in your car?'
' mate you ever been stuck out in the middle of nowhere and something goes wrong?'
'Excuse me sir why do you have manacles in your car?'
I use it to highlight my point. Its never a reflection on the posterSelective highlighting in bold type isn't lost on me Mr Crow!
I use it to highlight my point. Its never a reflection on the poster
There was already a media backlash against her at the time of the murder , all because she didn't make herself accessible to the parasites, in much the same way they have turned on Schapelle.
Named and image in the press so, meet Roman Heinze the Salt Creek attacker and the photofit of Peter Falconio's murderer. #Uncanny.
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