pokies provide 300,000 jobs directly from thier revenue, not to mention indirect jobs such as bistro's, bottleshops etc.
That's some big numbers, I'm curious as to where you got them from.
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pokies provide 300,000 jobs directly from thier revenue, not to mention indirect jobs such as bistro's, bottleshops etc.
That's some big numbers, I'm curious as to where you got them from.
2% of the working population is directly employed by the pokies industry?pokies provide 300,000 jobs directly from thier revenue, not to mention indirect jobs such as bistro's, bottleshops etc.
Stuff your doctrine, common sense is the middle ground, if you need a doctrine maybe you just need to put your hand up for a bit of help.
2% of the working population is directly employed by the pokies industry?
Which also ignore the point that all the money not spent on the pokies doesn't just disappear. It will be spent else where in the economy creating new jobs. This could in fact be a net creator of jobs.PWC, in that very link Mitch provides, says only 15 000 jobs are contributed to the hotels industry by electronic gaming machines. That's extrapolated via modelling from things like proportions of revenue. And of course, pokies aren't going to be disappearing so it's not like all revenue and jobs from them will disappear, no matter how successful mandatory pre-commitment is.
So Pubs no longer serve food/drink. It is all 100% pokies.188,000 employed by pub-style hotels
that's pokies people
Yes but they could also spend money in areas which create more jobs per dollar spent than pokies. So what you should be actually saying it may cost an unspecified job in the hospitality industry while at the same time creating an unspecified amount of jobs new in the hospitality or other industry with the net effect being unknown.also, people would save money, not necessarily spend it, meaning jobs may not be created
So Pubs no longer serve food/drink. It is all 100% pokies.
no, I'm saying there is a garuntee of job loss and a loss of income to the government, in turn a greater strain on the Australian welfare systemYes but they could also spend money in areas which create more jobs per dollar spent than pokies. So what you should be actually saying it may cost an unspecified job in the hospitality industry while at the same time creating an unspecified amount of jobs new in the hospitality or other industry with the net effect being unknown.
Democratic Socialism IS common sense.
If you've got a (in your mind) reasonable criticism of it, I'm hardly stopping you from putting your point forward.
But if (as I suspect) you don't have s**t, stop posing. People that think they're above an ideology of some kind, are usually politically ignorant (i.e. they think that what THEY think hasn't been thought of before, which is just plain narcissism - my evaluation of you fits this, btw) or they're actually mentally ill (i.e. politics is out to get me, I know the truth etc etc)
To be fair Democratic Socialism is a very hard political doctrine to define, it is open to many interpretations that all in all confuse the **** out of me. Social democrat. democratic socialist?? Is the endgame still to achieve a socialist society??
To be fair Democratic Socialism is a very hard political doctrine to define, it is open to many interpretations that all in all confuse the **** out of me. Social democrat. democratic socialist?? Is the endgame still to achieve a socialist society??
On a personal note, I lost more than I want to acknowledge with pokies. However about 12 months ago decided enough is enough.
Have a family and all that and need to think of others than just my egotistical self.
Its been 1 year and 1 day since my last visit to the dreaded machines.
Here's to another clean year.
188,000 employed by pub-style hotels
that's pokies people
Disagree completely with this.Any pub or club that needs pokies to stay alive is a shitly run pub or club.
also, people would save money, not necessarily spend it, meaning jobs may not be created
Looking further through the report, ~25k of those are in WA, where there are no pokies (outside the casino), so your statement is clearly incorrect.
So instead of pumping money into the wallets of wealthy club owners, the money could actually be saved by the (on average) low income earners who use pokies?
And you think they would just hoard this money? Only the rich do that.
This money would invariably go to education for their children, or health insurance, or simply back into the economy via luxury spending.
The idea that the money just "disappears" from the economy simply because it isn't going into pokies...
well...
Its simply stupid at best, and at worst a lie.
Democratic Socialism IS common sense.
If you've got a (in your mind) reasonable criticism of it, I'm hardly stopping you from putting your point forward.
But if (as I suspect) you don't have s**t, stop posing. People that think they're above an ideology of some kind, are usually politically ignorant (i.e. they think that what THEY think hasn't been thought of before, which is just plain narcissism - my evaluation of you fits this, btw) or they're actually mentally ill (i.e. politics is out to get me, I know the truth etc etc)
well I'm going by the report given by aha to all pubs & clubs which stated it is worded to avoided conflicting with laws prohibiting gaming advertising. this was handed out in 2009 when the laws were amended to allow company (taberet, tatts) to advertise as long as there was no reference to gambling in the promotion