The positives thread

[BRAB]

He's a good bloke and played a brilliant game on the weekend. Had the highest disposal count of his career and while he was under pressure for nearly of of those disposals he did quite well. Also didn't look as easy to push around which is a definite plus.

Loved his game on the weekend. I didn't expect him to play as well as he did.

 

[Nunez]

Loved his game on the weekend. I didn't expect him to play as well as he did.

I did but I'd been building my hopes and expectations based off his training and work in the 2 neafl games of his I watched. He was working very hard and thought if we pop him on the wing he'll do quite well. Very happy he proved me right though as we need as many 1% wins like this.

 

[BRAB]

I did but I'd been building my hopes and expectations based off his training and work in the 2 neafl games of his I watched. He was working very hard and thought if we pop him on the wing he'll do quite well. Very happy he proved me right though as we need as many 1% wins like this.

If players like Gardiner, Taylor, McStay, Robertson and Paparone keep improving it'll do more for our list than draft picks ever could. Probably the biggest thing under the new coaching team so far has been noticeable improvements in those kinds of players.

 

[Nunez]

If players like Gardiner, Taylor, McStay, Robertson and Paparone keep improving it'll do more for our list than draft picks ever could. Probably the biggest thing under the new coaching team so far has been noticeable improvements in those kinds of players.

Definitely man. We all get excited for draft picks but we must remember draft picks today are tomorrows Mayes, Taylor etc in terms of age and development. Our development has been shit the last few years but we've now got some great developmental minds in our club. We're finally giving the players the right chance to development.

 

[BRAB]

Definitely man. We all get excited for draft picks but we must remember draft picks today are tomorrows Mayes, Taylor etc in terms of age and development. Our development has been shit the last few years but we've now got some great developmental minds in our club. We're finally giving the players the right chance to development.

Yeah it's super exciting mate. 2017 Sam Mayes is so much better than early 2016 Sam Mayes it's not even funny. Time may heal some of the holes in our list and that's really exciting.

Someone like Sam Mayes seemed destined to leave the club but he's happy here now and improving. Very happy about that age group at the moment.

 

[MacMum]

That little business of Marco's looks quite handy....he obviously has a business brain, to turning his talent of drawing into a niche market. I can see him doing quite well from it after his footy life.

Well done to him

 

[John_Proctor]

If players like Gardiner, Taylor, McStay, Robertson and Paparone keep improving it'll do more for our list than draft picks ever could. Probably the biggest thing under the new coaching team so far has been noticeable improvements in those kinds of players.

I've started following the afl player ratings in this respect. No rating system is perfect, and this one is particularly hard to manipulate so you have to take tit bits of information to get a feel for how players are going... but for example I think we have 5 players in top 100 and 3 more from 101-200. Teams like dogs, crows have double those numbers.

I.e. It's a pretty good indicator of potential performance (although Hawks and swans have lots of high players reflecting past performance). The ratings aren't transperant or very editable (eg. You can't find rankings for just this years games) but their Twitter account does post interesting variations on stats. Some current interesting ones - Ben Keays last 3 games he is ranked 38th in the league in this system with an average game ranking of 14.4. If Paparone can maintain as an average his score from the weekend he'd be about 100th ranked (but currently somewhere in the order of 300) also Andrews is currently 9th ranked key defender this year.

Basically we need them and the other young guys you've mentioned to play to that level consistently for 1-2 seasons and get that progression up the rankings list as an indicator of being ready.

The list takes a waited average of players last 40 games (within 2 seasons) so our boys under 40 games are obviously lowly rated. What I'm looking for from mcluggage and berry and co is break out games that show they are ready to become real contributors at the top level. Eg. they tweet a weekly rising star tracker for this rating system and Sam Powell pepper is averaging 12 points per game this season which is well above the position/age average of 8. From my viewing I doubt mcluggage and berry have hit an individual game score of 8 yet. Hippy btw basically a averages the KPf/age average of about 6.5 but has a best game rating of 15.8.

Also Rocky is the 4th biggest % riser this season from 91 to 40 since start of season and Zorko is our highest ranked player at 7th overall. Beams ranked low (240ish) given injuries.

http://www.afl.com.au/stats/player-ratings/overall-standings#

@aflplayerrating

 

[PTizzle]

Berry and Cutler re-signing is fantastic news.

 

[pOleK]

For me the future is there, it just gets so annoying having to be patient (man time sucks and all that). But I still drool of the prospect of Keays, McCluggage, Taylor, Cutler, Berry, Matho, Robertson, Cox all dominating in the ball in hand delivering to Schache and Hipwood, whilst the likes of Skinner, McStay, Gardiner and Andrews lock down back. All in the mean time the senior brigade can sit back and be rewarded for their loyalty for sticking it out through the rough times and finally getting the success they deserve.

 

[fanackapan]

I also like that a number of our more experienced mids (particularly DBeams, Rockliff, Zorko) have the skillsets to be able to move forward and contribute as small forwards if/when our young midfield brigade are ready to take more of the load in the middle.

 

[briztoon]

I also like that a number of our more experienced mids (particularly DBeams, Rockliff, Zorko) have the skillsets to be able to move forward and contribute as small forwards if/when our young midfield brigade are ready to take more of the load in the middle.

I was just thinking of this last night.

 

[SizeMatters]

Berry and Keays.

 

[fanackapan]

When Rocky is finished, I hope it's acknowledged that with (much) better teams around him he might have been right up there with the great BL midfielders. He didn't, so he isn't, but he's a heck of a player, and a potentially terrific career has been cruelled by playing in rubbish teams. We'd have two more spoons without him.

 

[Dylan12]

I was very much of the view at the end of last year that Rockliff needed to be moved on.

That being said, my view of Rockliff couldn't have changed anymore.

Whilst there was no denying his talent, the manner in which has has turned himself around is exemplary and now I am sincerely hoping we can retain him so he stays a one club player.

On field though, he seems to have taken his game to another level; such a shame he may now be out for a month.

At this stage, I reckon his absence will be felt more than Dayne Beams' absence such is Rockliff's standing in the team.

 

[Carlos Danger]

Who's the captain if rockys out & beams doesn't come back in?

 

[fanackapan]

Who's the captain if rockys out & beams doesn't come back in?

Zorko.

 

[lions27]

The game wasn't over at qtr time

 

[M Malice]

Ben Keays- really good hands and runs his backside off, will be a beauty.
Jarrod Berry- Showing so many great signs for a first year inside mid and bucket loads of leadership.
Eric Hipwood- Wow, will be a good player for us, huge upside could be anything.
Harris Andrews- While not back to his best yesterday, was better with a mature body down there with him. Sometimes I think we forget this boy is still only 20 years of age.

 

[dlanod]

The game wasn't over at qtr time

If it wasn't us I'd say we were in a winnable position up until the fourth. Sounds a lot like our earlier efforts than the last few weeks.

 

[Mr Ripper]

I haven't watched a minute of either of the past two games.

 

[mikey127]

Richmond lost after the Siren are a bunch of pretenders and the worst 5-0 team ever.

 

[ZoBlitz]

Richmond lost after the Siren are a bunch of pretenders and the worst 5-0 team ever.

Got competition from North last year.

 

[mikey127]

Got competition from North last year.

Nah North played decent foty for another month

 

[mikey127]

Also least when we make the finals we achieve something. Unlike Richmond who have won 2 finals in over 30 years.

 

[M Malice]

Filling in time so thought I'd give a 21 and under side a go. We have 23 players 21 and under.

Back.
Mitchell Hinge, Sam Skinner, Daniel McStay.
Alex Witherden, Harris Andrews, Darcy Gardner.

Mids.
Archie Smith, Jarrod Berry, Rhys Matheison.
Ben Keays, Hugh McCluggage, Nick Robertson.

Fwd.
Cedric Cox, Joshua Schache, Reuben William.
Jake Barrett, Eric Hipwood, Matthew Hammellman.

Int.
Jacob Allison, Liam Dawson, Josh Clayton, Corey Lyons. Emerg. Cian Hanley

A lot of "potential" there, positive signs for the future, I'm looking through rose colored glasses and can see a half full glass but I can envision upside in all those guys.