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Hamling, Ryan & Alex Pearce is a backline spine for 10 years.
Add Logue, Weller & Blakely as running backs and its a really impressive back 6.
Expect Weller & Blakely and even possibly Logue to eventually spend time in the middle but its a bloody good lineup for next year at least.
Edit can't believe I forgot Hughes! Its really shaping up well down there.
Add Logue, Weller & Blakely as running backs and its a really impressive back 6.
Expect Weller & Blakely and even possibly Logue to eventually spend time in the middle but its a bloody good lineup for next year at least.
Edit can't believe I forgot Hughes! Its really shaping up well down there.
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With the emergence of Ryan, Blakely to move to full time inside mid next year. Please no more Spurr.
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Poor ball movement out of the back half & repeat inside D50's seems like a distant memory ATM( Ryan is my new favourite player)!
Totally nailed last years trading and drafting.
Logue, Darcy, Cox and Ryan all in our future best 22.
Adding B Hill, McCarthy,Kersten, and Hamling to our current best 22.
That's a third of team found in year.
Logue, Darcy, Cox and Ryan all in our future best 22.
Adding B Hill, McCarthy,Kersten, and Hamling to our current best 22.
That's a third of team found in year.
At one point during the game last night...I think it was about middle of the third quarter, we had an 87% disposal efficiency for the game 
I don't know what it ended up as, but holy crap!
I don't know what it ended up as, but holy crap!
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Ryan was great.... but so was Hughes, really liking this kid. Loved seeing him go for a run on multiple occasions as well as being solid defensively.
Someone mentioned it last night but the Fyfe/Brad Hill combo was beautiful to watch and very effective. Such a good pick up for us.
Stephen Hill got back to his best. Inside/outside, good pace, 7 clearances, a few beautiful kicks. Definitely getting back to his earlier season form.
I thought that was one of Crozier's best games for quite some time. Tackled well, presented well up the lines, some great kicks and got a nice goal.
Neale is a beast.
Cam's best game for us and not just because of the goals. Playing a bit higher up the ground suits him. He has some smarts and skills to go with his awkward running style.
Imagine adding Sandi/Darcy, Walters, Blakely, Bennell to that side.
Someone mentioned it last night but the Fyfe/Brad Hill combo was beautiful to watch and very effective. Such a good pick up for us.
Stephen Hill got back to his best. Inside/outside, good pace, 7 clearances, a few beautiful kicks. Definitely getting back to his earlier season form.
I thought that was one of Crozier's best games for quite some time. Tackled well, presented well up the lines, some great kicks and got a nice goal.
Neale is a beast.
Cam's best game for us and not just because of the goals. Playing a bit higher up the ground suits him. He has some smarts and skills to go with his awkward running style.
Imagine adding Sandi/Darcy, Walters, Blakely, Bennell to that side.
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Ethan Hughes.
Must admit I totally wrote him off 10 weeks ago, he's turning into a really high quality footballer.
Must admit I totally wrote him off 10 weeks ago, he's turning into a really high quality footballer.
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So did I
Yep... I remember Sydney doing something similar in 2009 draft/trade period when they picked up likes of Kennedy/mcglynn/rohan/Jetta etc in one off season. Set them up for their 2012 flag and beyond.
Don't care what anyone says ,4 years is more than enough time to rebuild in the AFL,especially these days.
Don't believe it no dramas but virtually all the rebuilds that ACTUALLY lead to a premiership/gf appearances/sustained run have been the quicker ones see hawk/cats/swans/eagles.
By year 3 of your rebuild you pretty much should be playing finals.
I still laugh at these muppet supporters of minnow vic clubs who carry on about 6 +odd year rebuilds and all these 'gun' draft picks there getting ,see saints/Melb yet still haven't even played finals.
History would suggest it doesn't work
6 years is an enternityin AFL football,a decent player and key part in a side in year 1 say at 23 will be 29 in year 6 and potentially/probably his best footy behind him ....now multiply that by 4/5 players and all of sudden your in a never ending rebuild cycle.
It's why I m so adamant we simply MUST nail the majority of our draft picks..and be very shrewd with our drafting...and last few years so far so good!!
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Ross said the same yesterday. It's vital that if you're going to rebuild that you get it right. As he said there's been no shortage of examples over the years of rebuilds not done well and the club has to start again after 3 or 4 years.
Exactly....I think a lot of teams boards and certainly supporters think rebuilding simply means trundling along the bottom of the ladder accumulating high draft picks for 4 odd years then shooting up the ladder...(hello Melb).
There's a discussion in the Alan Richardson thread on the MB which touches on the timelines for what a successful rebuild will be and key indicators. Ironically this boards fav poster st ciatriz is on the money with the saints current 1 and that is its highly likely it won't succeed given previous examples eg played finals by/ before year 4.
That's why I can't believe there are posters on here who think we won't be "contending" till 2021/22 so we must be keeping/not downgrading every high pick we get.
If that's the case then we may as well trade Fyfe/Walters/Neale etc because this rebuild will be doomed to fail
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Last years trading and drafting period has definitely put our rebuild on track to be significantly ahead of the four year period Ross originally spoke about at the end of the 2016 season. The rapid development this season of third year players Hughes, Weller and Blakely also surely would have exceeded expectations. Add a fit Alex Pearce and Harley Bennell and we could have one of the most successful rebuilds from a team in recent memory. Add a forward or two this trade period and well anything could happen.
That one aimed at me? I know I champion that we are unlikely to push up the ladder next year (I still believe this to be true). I firmly believe however, that we will rise strongly in 2019 and push hard in 2020. Just a matter of getting the bulk of players to 50-100 games. There is no other way to do than time since they can only play 22-26 games max per year. It is not some agenda to have us accruing bulk top 10 picks as I agree it doesn't seem to work.
If we are anywhere near as productive this trade/draft period as the last one, we could be a real smokey for 2020.
The high pick argument is just because we are only going to have 1 or 2 more. Need to make the most of them. We will get plenty of opportunities to trade late first rounders for players later.
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it's my way of passive aggressively condemning your arguments!... lol nah mate not at all .I actually agree with most of your assessments of our list and where our rebuilds at. And am aware you think will have a down year next year too but rise 2019 sharply like you said ,is not actually far off my prediction except I just think we will "arrive" just a bit quicker..ie next year I think we ll be pushing for finals ...either just in or out...more likely the former particularly if we manage to snare MM ,matera etc then competing for a shot at the 4 in 2019 while a definite chance in 2020. I honestly believe the club is looking at a similar time line.
As for who it was aimed at was more a shot at some posts I've seen stating we should tank next year because there's better talent especially WA ,or so we can grab Ian hill or lukousis or my favourite ,trading our first this year for another next year.
I mean are people seriously going to be content if we're bottom 3/4 and have gone backwards on this year ?...because barring a terrible injury run that's exactly what would have to happen for us to be in a position to grab said players.
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To get 8 wins so far with the personnel change is pretty damn good in hindsight. Can't wait for what next year and beyond brings, Ryan is seriously our find of the season. When we're all wanting Jeremy McGovern as the intercept mark, we bring in Ryan and it's paying off in spades. Hughes has been quietly doing his business, so underrated this season. And quick too
Nyhuis will be a terrific player as well I think. He is already a wonderful kick with terrific pace to add to the group you mentioned above. With Cox able to play back if we get an injury or two and Duman looking promising I think we have our defence covered for the next 7 year+ provided Alex Pearce comes back at full strength.
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Hahayes...
I actually agree with most of your assessments of our list and where our rebuilds at. And am aware you think will have a down year next year too but rise 2019 sharply like you said ,is not actually far off my prediction except I just think we will "arrive" just a bit quicker..ie next year I think we ll be pushing for finals ...either just in or out...more likely the former particularly if we manage to snare MM ,matera etc then competing for a shot at the 4 in 2019 while a definite chance in 2020. I honestly believe the club is looking at a similar time line.
As for who it was aimed at was more a shot at some posts I've seen stating we should tank next year because there's better talent especially WA ,or so we can grab Ian hill or lukousis or my favourite ,trading our first this year for another next year.
I mean are people seriously going to be content if we're bottom 3/4 and have gone backwards on this year ?...because barring a terrible injury run that's exactly what would have to happen for us to be in a position to grab said players.
. I just know I am one of the more vocal "keep a lid on it for next year types".I 100% agree we should try and win every game this and next year. Think the depth of talent in the pool might keep us in with a chance for an Ian Hill type (~pick 6). I'd say Lukosius is out of reach though.
I also think that if apeness can get up, we have a half decent forward line. He would be the stay at home clunking type forward, with Kersten, Mcarthy, Tabs and (Mcgovern)... to be the mobile forwards.
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Senior docker players toured the stadium today. Not long now.
Got sent a heap of snaps this arvo and it seems bloody enormous.
Beyond Intergalactic spaceship dimensions.
Very impressive.
Beyond Intergalactic spaceship dimensions.
Very impressive.
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We will be a lot better next season.
Another preseason into the young guns will see them run out games more strongly. The team will gel more and Sean 'Hodor' Darcy will be the fwd ruck we have been craving. Sandi in the middle putting it down a fit Fyfe/Hill x 2/ Neale / Walters throats. Bennell up front with a fitter McCarthy and Kersten with Ballaz is a dangerous combo. Fyfe rotating with Mundy and Bennell will keep them guessing.
Ryan and Blakely off halfback dominating rebounds and Hamling and hopefully Pearce controlling the air down back will see us rock solid in defence.
The wide open spaces at the new ground will suit our fast team and I reckon we will finish in the 8 with a newer slicker attack pattern that we have seen in glimpses this season.
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Another preseason into the young guns will see them run out games more strongly. The team will gel more and Sean 'Hodor' Darcy will be the fwd ruck we have been craving. Sandi in the middle putting it down a fit Fyfe/Hill x 2/ Neale / Walters throats. Bennell up front with a fitter McCarthy and Kersten with Ballaz is a dangerous combo. Fyfe rotating with Mundy and Bennell will keep them guessing.
Ryan and Blakely off halfback dominating rebounds and Hamling and hopefully Pearce controlling the air down back will see us rock solid in defence.
The wide open spaces at the new ground will suit our fast team and I reckon we will finish in the 8 with a newer slicker attack pattern that we have seen in glimpses this season.
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