I know it seems like the biased Hawthorn supporter thing to say, but neutrals are quite possibly the worst people to talk to regarding the quality of our list. There is a sense of jealousy and want for Hawthorn to have a sh*t list more than the list actually being sh*t.Anyone who thinks we can win a flag within three years is overestimating our list. Talk to some neutrals and they will tell you that our list is one of the worst in the AFL. We have a great team culture and a brilliant coach which will stop us from finishing bottom four, but we are no flag threat and will still not be with one or two FAs to trades. Our mission should be to get as many top 25 draft picks as possible in 2019/20/21, then top up/trade as required. This will set us for the next 10+ years. If we keep trading away picks and young players for another two years, then yes, it will definitely be too late for they current over 27s to play in our next flag.