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Discussion in 'Carlton' started by Aphrodite, Oct 5, 2017.
Perhaps he was in transit/absent from the meetings...
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I don't have a problem with changing the CEO after 3 years.
Triggs done a great job on improving the culture and the inclusiveness of the club, but has been unable to restore the club's financial strength.
I'd say it's time for a comercial hard hitter to finish the job and it's the board's job to find one.
A lack of due process only becomes a problem if the appointment doesnt work out. But lets say it is paul roos that wants to coach (assuming no BB) do we really need to do due process ? Surely there is a case that if the person comes with an impeccable performance record , then you dont look a gift horse.....
Sure lethlean has baggage, so did trigg (remember all the angst over his appointment). I guarantee you in 5 years time everyone will have forgotten the Lethlean debacle. All that will be left is his performance over that time
For those saying Trigg wasn't involved in selecting BB, he was.
Steven Trigg - Chair
David Campbell from Egon Zehnder
And 2 from there will be involved with Trigg's replacement.
Paul Roos isn't that much of a gift horse that due diligence wouldn't be required. Perhaps we'll miss out on an amazing CEO because we're only looking in the AFL's backyard.
The good CEOs at club level seem to have a pretty solid link in the industry rather than coming from outside though. I can understand having a crack at a very strong candidate, so long as it doesn't blow up in our face and we lose Trigg as well as miss out.
Some things I don't need to know about. Knowing Trigg was FIFO wasn't important while he was ticking boxes. If we were that transparent the media would have made it an issue with every little issue, with every loss. We don't need to know because the media don't need to know.
Yeah I hear what you're saying, and I suppose it is a unique-ish industry, but I really dislike the thought of Gil presenting Lethlean and us just taking him at face value. Obviously I don't know that that is how it's gone down, but IF it is, then I don't like it.
Yeah fair enough. Things went badly for the club when it started fighting city hall, so our best chance at returning to what we once were is working with them as closely as possible. We don't have issues with supporter base numbers, maybe this is our fastest way at off field growth, with the on field and footy department looking solid.
If our CEO Trigg ticked all boxes but marketing and memberships, perhaps it is better to keep Trigg and employ a specialist marketing and memberships person, no???
I think you need to have the best available person; I don’t think that’s Trigg, it’s more likely someone with a better connected dynamism.
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Hearing Trigg's replacement is down to either Simon Leathlean or Harvey Weinstein
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He's the co-founder of Miramax... and in a wee bit of trouble right now for multiple cases of sexual harassment... it was a joke.
I didn’t know who he was. Any idea who the club will look at
I think in regards to the commercial performance of the club you would obviously need to look at it bearing in mind our on field results over the last few years. Very hard to build membership numbers when your down the bottom of the ladder. Same would go with attracting sponsorships.
From an executive point of view there would be only so much that could be done. I’m not so much defending Trigg as it’s just the reality of the situation. The Bulldogs managed to increase their membership numbers by 53% from 2015 to 2017, obviously winning matches and premierships goes a long way to solving financial problems.
Yes when you consider the above, Trigg appears to be scapegoated
The reality is the AFL prefer club CEO's to come from within the "AFL's backyard", hence Trigg from Adelaide to Carlton, Swann from Collingwood to Carlton to the Lions, Evans from Hawthorn to the AFL to the Suns (you can probably include Gunston's temporary gig at Essendope as well) & the AFL's reported displeasure with Hawthorn's appointment of Tracey Gaudry from outside the "backyard" (her subsequent sacking after 5 months gives the AFL an "I told you so" moment).
Those clubs who are healthy both on & off the field are in the best position to thumb their nose at the AFL when it comes to CEO/Senior Management appointments, but those who are beholden to the AFL (including our club) have to tow the AFL line to an extent on such appointments.
I really don't like the way this has been handled.
Whether Trigg is the right or the wrong guy moving forward - there was plenty to celebrate in his tenure. From my perspective - he appeared professional, and respectful to all stakeholders around him.
I think it's really disappointing that we aren't clearly talking about the steps forward we have made over the past few years and how it's time to transition to a different style of leadership. Balance the good with some clarity on why the board doesn't feel he's right for the job.
Instead - it looks like we've screwed him over and that we're going to install a new bloke as a 'job for the boys' type deal. There's a bit of a stink of impatience and old ways about this.
I also think there's no merit in the whole 'lives in Adelaide' BS. In a connected world, it's not like he wouldn't have been available in the same way as if he was at home in Melbourne on a Saturday (Quicker to get to Adelaide by plane than it is to drive to Geelong most days - where do all of their executives live?)
Things like this say plenty about club culture. When a big club comes knocking on BB's door (Bolton not Boekhorst) in a couple of years time - don't tell me this situation isn't a reminder to him of how the club and board view things like 'loyalty'.
It's an enormous grind for those who have to do it (and their spouse), and anyone who does it would be looking around at alternatives. That's before you even get around to the expense of straddling two capital cities.
I have a friends who do this under great sufferance.
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Trigg was told that he would be replaced months ago (basically sacked)
Was the right man for the job initially....club was in an absolute mess when Swann left
But he had taken us as far as he could and to take the next step (competing with Hawks, Rich, etc) we needed a new direction.
Lethlean to be "interviewed"
Nothing we really didn't already know......
Can you show us the picture of Adrian Gleeson finally been shown the door?