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Michael Jezz

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The question for Cain Liddle is whether he is qualified as a football department CEO as well as a commercial CEO. If, as I doubt, he is football qualified, then he should put his view forth but make football decisions in the rarest of circumstance and defer to the department heads
 

Michael Jezz

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Yesterday was a tipping point moment for me. The chairing of Gibbs after the dismissal of SoS will never sit well with me I really appreciate what this board has done, with list build and commercials but it is time to pass the batton to some new blood with greater football focus. If there is a new group who stands, I will vote for them.
 

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Yesterday was a tipping point moment for me. The chairing of Gibbs after the dismissal of SoS will never sit well with me I really appreciate what this board has done, with list build and commercials but it is time to pass the batton to some new blood with greater football focus. If there is a new group who stands, I will vote for them.
This is quite strange, the SOS situation aside, as I can see why people get upset and how it wasn’t a good look or time for us but what does Gibbs being chaired off, have anything to do with any of the board?
Surely that’s on the players and the coaches if there is an issue, I’m not sure how your disapproval at one, is tied to something that now happened nearly 12 months ago.
 

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It clearly demonstrated that the players minds were elsewhere and evidenced by the way they played. It also appeared that Gibbs was appreciated more by his ex team mates than his current ones. Without doubt one of the most bizarre things I have seen in a very long time.
Why do their actions after the game demonstrate their mindset going into the game or during the game? That's not demonstrated at all, clearly or hazy. It's a + b = 3 surmising. I saw Simmo's same courage and desperation show. After 341 games, I'm going to trust him that he cared more about his mate's send off, than the prospect of playing finals after 7 years in probably his last season.
 

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Any good club worth it's salt would be coming out to make a public statement that a performance like yesterday's is not accepted, and put the entire football department on notice.

Do we think Juddchella backyard event organiser turned Football Director Chris Judd will be doing this? No chance

Do we think that the bloke whose father made all his money turned Club President will do this? An even lesser chance

What about Cain Liddle? Surely his precious membership number targets are now in jeopardy, and would be drawn into comment?

This year is now an abject failure. 7 wins; it's not even an improvement on last year. We've just lost to the worst Adelaide team of all time, in an absolute listless performance. The above figures are the ones we look towards to really make a statement on this, and all are missing in action. The Fish is rotting at the head. We will not be improving as a club until the above figureheads start demanding performance. Either their attitudes need to change, or they need to go. The club is in a rut and they are central to the issue.
You have banged on about what a professional Liddle is/has been and now when it does align with you script you want to pot him? Which one is it, the professional we needed, or not up to it?


Once again you seek reassurance from the club by wanting them to come out to denounce the performance and or a season, purely based on your expectations of what we should have achieved

While we have been frustratingly inconsistent, the club isn't in a rut, we have improved on last year in many key areas

Keep banging drum though
 

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It clearly demonstrated that the players minds were elsewhere and evidenced by the way they played. It also appeared that Gibbs was appreciated more by his ex team mates than his current ones. Without doubt one of the most bizarre things I have seen in a very long time.

As for having other problems to worry about? Yes, we do. Clearly there is something seriously wrong within the inner sanctum when players are more concerned about fare welling a former player than playing to win to try and get a finals spot. What will they do next week, line up and cheer Robinson onto the field? If Judd and the Board shrug their shoulders and let this pass to the keeper, then they are sending the wrong message to everyone.
Look at the way they treated Jake lever when he wanted out ....
 

jpfalvo

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Yesterday was a tipping point moment for me. The chairing of Gibbs after the dismissal of SoS will never sit well with me I really appreciate what this board has done, with list build and commercials but it is time to pass the batton to some new blood with greater football focus. If there is a new group who stands, I will vote for them.
I agree.

We are a nice football club, not ruthless.
The culture is questionable and we are mentally weak.

Ruthless footy clubs dont put up with this. They demand standards, performance and discipline. Captain Cripps missing from 30 out directly infront, then celebrating like usain bolt 2minutes later, seriously what example are you setting

There is a serious leadership problem onfield and has been for a very long time. The personality of the group is introverted. It has been since fevola was turfed out.

Leadership from the top off field has been just as weak. The president has been invisible. No accountability for the Bolton backing then sacking. Mind you he sat in the same boads that rolled ratts and mick. Wheres the accountability for repeated poor decision making.

What about the sos-teague-liddle fracture last year, where was the president as peacemakerand creating harmony.

Good clubs and organisations are accountable. Fess up to their mistakes.
Good clubs that are successful are harmonious on and off field. We are far from that.

Recent rumours suggests fracture again between liddle and teague. Clearly the players chairing gibbs unsanctioned, shows a lack of discipline and transparency between senior players and teague and the club.

Spin it anyway you want all is not well behind the scenes. That wont help us attract talent.

Juddchella is the football director. Explain to me, what exactly is his role? Judds words not mine were that it wasnt his responsibility to oversee the football department. Ok, so as football director what exactly is it that you do?

Clearly i am naive to think that he would be the director responsible for all things football.....!

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Further to this.

Unlike collingwood and richmond that changed their fortunes by having public review of their club. Providing the members with transparency and actions.

In 2018 we apparently hadna review, yet when asked to release the findings, where are they. No transparency whatsover. What are we scared of? 105 games into the 66game rebuild... wheres the accountability for that?

If its good enough for richmond and collingwood, put their findings on the table, make meaningful change, what about carlton? Or are we too arrogant for that, too concerned with self protection than dramatic improvement

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Yesterday was a tipping point moment for me. The chairing of Gibbs after the dismissal of SoS will never sit well with me I really appreciate what this board has done, with list build and commercials but it is time to pass the batton to some new blood with greater football focus. If there is a new group who stands, I will vote for them.

Relevance to this thread! :think:
 

Moody Blue

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Talk of Liddle involving himself in list management discussions again is a concern. Be across those conversations, sure, but if Cain wanted to work in that part of the industry he should’ve applied for that job.
Quite apparent why he got rid of SOS. Now he can impose his will as he sees fit. The Liddle FC. if I was Liddle I would be more concerned about why our players after losing a match and ending their finals hopes, were so excited to cheer off an opposition player. I could imagine what Neil Balme would say if that had been done at Richmond..
 

Moody Blue

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Further to this.

Unlike collingwood and richmond that changed their fortunes by having public review of their club. Providing the members with transparency and actions.

In 2018 we apparently hadna review, yet when asked to release the findings, where are they. No transparency whatsover. What are we scared of? 105 games into the 66game rebuild... wheres the accountability for that?

If its good enough for richmond and collingwood, put their findings on the table, make meaningful change, what about carlton? Or are we too arrogant for that, too concerned with self protection than dramatic improvement

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The club is still a plaything for the rich and famous. They do not bother to inform the unwashed of what they are doing. Just pay your membership and shut up. They know what is right...
 

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