The pressure on the WA government to relax it's rigid border rules

Do you agree with the rigid border rules or do you agree there is room for flexibility?

  • Yes border rules are keeping WA safe

    Votes: 44 53.7%
  • No there needs to be flexibility

    Votes: 38 46.3%

  • Total voters
    82

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"The decision was made at the time because of legal reasons," she said.

"The feedback that both Ben Morton and I had given at the time [was] we did not support the challenge.

"In the end, after consulting with Premier [Mark] McGowan, the Prime Minister understood that we needed to back Western Australia and we withdrew from the challenge.

"The vote was clear, Western Australians very much supported the approach of Mark McGowan," she said.

Begrudging admission from Michaelia Cash that it was the wrong move to undermine McGowan and the voters punished them for it.
 

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Begrudging admission from Michaelia Cash that it was the wrong move to undermine McGowan and the voters punished them for it.

She’s going to jail, everyone forgotten the raids on the AWU?


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She’s going to jail, everyone forgotten the raids on the AWU?


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Can’t believe she’s Matt Prices sister in law !!!.

Matt = witty and articulate.

Michaelea = personality of a bulldozer blade.

RIP Matt.
 

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Any flooding or fires occur often in WA?

'Maybe there is some use we can put it to outside of a pandemic or a disaster (but) we haven't quite landed on what that is yet,' Mr McGowan said.

'We're seeking feedback from people as to what it can be used for.

'It's not in the heart of the city. So you know, in terms of backpackers or something, it can't really be used for that.'

 

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Work mandates (bar high risk health settings) to be removed in WA. Well done Mr McGowan on some common sense. Hopefully Dan follows.
 

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Work mandates (bar high risk health settings) to be removed in WA. Well done Mr McGowan on some common sense. Hopefully Dan follows.

some places still need mandates.

aged care for example is dealing with major transmission issues right now, adding in unvaxxed and unmasked workers will just make a bad situation worse
 

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some places still need mandates.

aged care for example is dealing with major transmission issues right now, adding in unvaxxed and unmasked workers will just make a bad situation worse

That’s why I said “bar high risk settings” neddles. :)

They obviously need to remain.
 

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That’s why I said “bar high risk settings” neddles. :)

They obviously need to remain.

you are aware most govt mandates are long gone outside those settings?

places like food manufacturing and logistics are employer driven - not govt
 

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you are aware most govt mandates are long gone outside those settings?

places like food manufacturing and logistics are employer driven - not govt

Education, food, custodial and meat/seafood all still mandated by law in vic. Should only be healthcare and aged care at this point in my opinion.
 
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Education, food, custodial and meat/seafood all still mandated by law in vic. Should only be healthcare and aged care at this point.

i can tell you right now, the food industry will not change s**t. Ive had their managers tell me they are at a corporate level imposing vax mandates since before they were even implemented

and you are beyond stupid if you think opening prisons up to covid is a good idea. its an ohs nightmare on the best of days, and you think encouraging covid to spread within prisons is a good plan?
 

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i can tell you right now, the food industry will not change s**t. Ive had their managers tell me they are at a corporate level imposing vax mandates since before they were even implemented

and you are beyond stupid if you think opening prisons up to covid is a good idea. its an ohs nightmare on the best of days, and you think encouraging covid to spread within prisons is a good plan?

Yeah sorry, but I’m at the point where I do not believe this vaccine is preventing or stopping spread of covid. Do I want to get into an argument about that right now? Absolutely not, so I will best leave it there.

Unless visitors and guards going to prisons have done a PCR test the day before or on the day of visit, or get tested there at the door on arrival, and have the result there with them, I don’t see how having an unvaccinated guard or visitor makes any difference to stopping covid getting into jails.
 

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Yeah sorry, but I’m at the point where I do not believe this vaccine is preventing spread of covid. Do I want to get into an argument about that right now? Absolutely not, so I will best leave it there.

Unless visitors and guards going to prisons have done a PCR test the day before or on the day of visit, or get tested there at the door on arrival, and have the result there with them, I don’t see how having an unvaccinated guard or visitor makes any difference to stopping covid getting into jails.

stop running to "if its not 100% we should do 0%"

aged care is on rat testing, yet you want PCR for prisons?

JFYI prisons are always a high risk situation because they are living in close personal confinement, have limited mobility, engage in unsafe behaviour, and have massive health issues. Its very similar to aged care, once an infection kicks off in a prison, it genuinely kicks off.

prisons will be one of the last (with aged care and health) to wind down restrictions
 

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stop running to "if its not 100% we should do 0%"

aged care is on rat testing, yet you want PCR for prisons?

JFYI prisons are always a high risk situation because they are living in close personal confinement, have limited mobility, engage in unsafe behaviour, and have massive health issues. Its very similar to aged care, once an infection kicks off in a prison, it genuinely kicks off.

prisons will be one of the last (with aged care and health) to wind down restrictions

Sweet. Remove education, food manufacturing and meat/seafood then.
If food manufacturing businesses still want to personally mandate them like you say, then that’s on them. I wish them no luck.
 

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Sweet. Remove education, food manufacturing and meat/seafood then.
If food manufacturing businesses still want to personally mandate them like you say, then that’s on them. I wish them no luck.

FFS I have been telling you for months food manufacturing is mandating above what govt do (and still do today).

you do realize if a line is shut down, it takes 3-21 days for some to be completely shut down, fully cleaned (this has to be done whenever a shutdown occurs), and restarted?

If a line has less than the required people to run it, it must be shut down. This is what these companies are trying to prevent - shutting down and causing food shortages
 

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FFS I have been telling you for months food manufacturing is mandating above what govt do (and still do today).

you do realize if a line is shut down, it takes 3-21 days for some to be completely shut down, fully cleaned (this has to be done whenever a shutdown occurs), and restarted?

If a line has less than the required people to run it, it must be shut down. This is what these companies are trying to prevent - shutting down and causing food shortages

Telling me for months? This is literally the first time I’ve engaged with you about mandates. And if you’ve told me before, it would have been a while ago and you expect me to remember? Cmon Ned, it’s bigfooty.

Smart companies - it’s almost as if they think the vaccine is going to magically remove someone’s chances of catching it! 🤣
 

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Telling me for months? This is literally the first time I’ve engaged with you about mandates. And if you’ve told me before, it would have been a while ago and you expect me to remember? Cmon Ned, it’s bigfooty.

Smart companies - it’s almost as if they think the vaccine is going to magically remove someone’s chances of catching it! 🤣

yes i have spoken to you multiple times on mandates, and for the food and aged care and disability sectors. and every time you ignore it because its not your let it rip view

so now the companies you wished s**t upon are smart for managing risk? you really are full of s**t
 

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yes i have spoken to you multiple times on mandates, and for the food and aged care and disability sectors. and every time you ignore it because its not your let it rip view

so now the companies you wished s**t upon are smart for managing risk? you really are full of s**t

Lol multiple is a stretch. And now you are flat out lying. Which isn’t very good of you. Never have I ever said mandates should be removed for aged care or disability services. Never ever argued them.
Hence my original post about McGowan and mentioning high risk settings.

Refuse to engage with liars. Take it somewhere else.
 

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Any flooding or fires occur often in WA?

'Maybe there is some use we can put it to outside of a pandemic or a disaster (but) we haven't quite landed on what that is yet,' Mr McGowan said.

'We're seeking feedback from people as to what it can be used for.

'It's not in the heart of the city. So you know, in terms of backpackers or something, it can't really be used for that.'

Can be used when there are crises around the world and temporary accomodation needed, can be used for natural disasters. But most importantly - scientists have been warning for years that more virus’ will escape as arctic permafrost melts so next time theres a pandemic we wont have the hq disaster.