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[Mowman]

LOL old mate Jobe Watson killing it again

 

[Sun Ra]

LOL old mate Jobe Watson killing it again

His old coach apparently getting ready to take over at GWS. Sheedy/Palpatine put it in place with Gil's wink. Great story about a second chance
for a champion of the game, blah, blah, blah......

 

[Mowman]

LOL old mate Jobe Watson killing it again

Boak 34 years of old

 

[pebblesofsand]

Cam Smith - double bogey on the first, double bogey on the 18th. Still ends up with a 4 under par 68.

Not fair!!!

 

[joop]

Cam Smith - double bogey on the first, double bogey on the 18th. Still ends up with a 4 under par 68.

Not fair!!!

Wow me and Cam Smith have something in common, I always double the 1st and 18th. Thats it.

 

[SaintsSeptember]

Wow me and Cam Smith have something in common, I always double the 1st and 18th. Thats it.

Everyone might do it.
Double Bogey might be par for the course.

 

[Mowman]

Cam Smith - double bogey on the first, double bogey on the 18th. Still ends up with a 4 under par 68.

Not fair!!!

He is a gun
How good would it be if won the Masters OMG

 

[Mowman]

Wow me and Cam Smith have something in common, I always double the 1st and 18th. Thats it.

No i normally play 17 sh1t holes and birdie 18

 

[PoppedCorn]

You know what I love about golf??

Except Paige

 

[StFly]

You know what I love about golf??

Except Paige

I'd agree with this sentiment, only

It puts me to sleep, so I hardly remember watching it.

 

[Joffaboy]

No i normally play 17 sh1t holes and birdie 18

That's the god of golf, drawing you back to play that one good shot again.

 

[Mowman]

Anyone done the Swans SCG game in the past, going up this year

 

[gringo2011]

Tokenism to me is displaying something one or two times a year.

Happy for us all to have a differing opinion on these subjects.

I really just wanted to point out that discussions about inclusivity are easier when the subject matter is ‘those other guys over there’. But once it’s closer to the things our heart holds dear we start to get a little less forthright in what the right pathway forward is.

It’s a tough subject.

I'm not really a traditionalist so it's not that. It sort of lessens the impact of the celebration of the way that AFL pioneered a lot of the changed attitudes that have improved the experience of a countless amounts of people in our society. Say what you like about the organisation but they pushed a potentially brave attitude shift that bristled a lot of older Aussies and risked alienating people.

It's possibly a form of racism in itself but there is something about the way indigenous players play the sport. It feels like a lot of them play on instinct and joy and have added so much of the spectacular moments in the game.

Maybe the AFL should as part of the acknowledgement of the indigenous component of the contribution to inventing the game, incorporate at the indigenous flag as wells the Aussie flag into the logo. Some say that Marn Grook was played at the site of the MCG and Wills incorporated it into his brand of football that he invented from his time in England at Cambridge but also had access to witnessing the indigenous game that sounds very similar.

 

[gringo2011]

Home is the key battle ground where racism and domestic violence needs to be fought.

I truly feel sorry for anyone who lives under the weight of deeply racist thoughts, whether in public or private, simply because that person has closed themselves off to so much beauty in the world.

I think to be fair to Bill he was probably talking more about casual racism. I think nearly everyone has some biases or prejudices in them. I find that my idea of being a pretty progressive person is challenged pretty regularly by my daughter. As they say though you learn as you go and that's about all you can ask of people. Have an open mind and give people a go and even if you stumble over the progressive language you still have your heart in the right place IMO.

 

[gringo2011]

Anyone done the Swans SCG game in the past, going up this year

Not for years, hopefully we're still on a winning streak then.

 

[gringo2011]

poster said this


You are drawing a very long bow there, basically implying that I am supportive of hidden or home racism. A Leading question gives your motive away. Not your best work by a long shot.

"We don't want people saying things that are hurtful, but at the same time how do you stop what is hidden?" << quoting another poster

As I said previous, it easy for people to jump on the racism bandwagon especially electronically and run with the hounds but not have the guts to step up with domestic violence and make a real difference for people who are actually being physically hurt.
If you are that concerned about racism- drop down to the nearest police station and ask a domestic violence victim whether she would rather get a comment about her ripped jeans from her abuser or whether she would like her head punched in. The answer should change your thinking.

It's a harder one to fix that asking people not to be offensive towards others. I'm not sure players saying not to commit domestic violence would have the same effect. It's one of those issues that no-one knows how to fix, there are so many issues involved and no one thing that causes it. It's probably through family attitudes, potentially money issues, self esteem etc.

It's almost so hard to fix that it's got to start in school age and work from there. You could hold up players as role models but often they seem to be the opposite.

 

[gringo2011]

Yes it is when you think about it, even in public there are laws to protect people from racial vilification so don’t break those and you’re fine. Everyone and every race more or less is racist to some extent some more than others, trying to control or prohibit what people can think is impossible as well us undesirable.

That's probably true.

 

[CursingFijian]

I'm not really a traditionalist so it's not that. It sort of lessens the impact of the celebration of the way that AFL pioneered a lot of the changed attitudes that have improved the experience of a countless amounts of people in our society. Say what you like about the organisation but they pushed a potentially brave attitude shift that bristled a lot of older Aussies and risked alienating people.

It's possibly a form of racism in itself but there is something about the way indigenous players play the sport. It feels like a lot of them play on instinct and joy and have added so much of the spectacular moments in the game.

Maybe the AFL should as part of the acknowledgement of the indigenous component of the contribution to inventing the game, incorporate at the indigenous flag as wells the Aussie flag into the logo. Some say that Marn Grook was played at the site of the MCG and Wills incorporated it into his brand of football that he invented from his time in England at Cambridge but also had access to witnessing the indigenous game that sounds very similar.

Fair enough.

I subscribe to the notion that we are all Australian and that is represented in a confluence of Western and Indigenous symbolism.

If someone 100 years ago had of incorporated indigenous patterning into the changes in our guernsey we would be fiercely proud of that tradition in the present. And perhaps we would have a couple of token rounds with a heritage (non-patterned guernsey).

For the record I am not suggesting the patterning be as extensive as that which is on current indigenous guernseys. But something subtle.

The lack of want to have those designs incorporated is telling in my opinion. It’s like the Scots not wanting subtle tartan designs in their National gear.

It certainly wouldn’t preclude us from participating in the current token indigenous celebratory round.

 

[Yawkey way]

Cam smith is a bit of luck and one great round from winning the masters, I’m not hoping others play poorly just that he plays well. I’ve watched the first 3 rounds and don’t think he’s had much luck, hopefully he’s saved it for tonight.

 

[Yawkey way]

Cam smith trying so hard to make things happen looks more likely to implode than win this.

 

[pebblesofsand]

Cam smith trying so hard to make things happen looks more likely to implode than win this.

Yeah sort of lost it a bit after the 3rd where he played a poor 2nd shot then Scheffler chipped in for a birdie which probably did his head in for a couple of holes.

 

[Sun Ra]

R.I.P.

Chris Bailey, lead singer of Australian band the Saints, dies

‘Chris lived a life of poetry and music,’ band writes in a post announcing the singer and songwriter’s death

www.theguardian.com

 

[StCicatriz]

R.I.P.

Chris Bailey, lead singer of Australian band the Saints, dies

‘Chris lived a life of poetry and music,’ band writes in a post announcing the singer and songwriter’s death

www.theguardian.com

oh man :-(

 

[Mowman]

Cam smith trying so hard to make things happen looks more likely to implode than win this.

His driving stats are not good and his bad shot goes left and you cant go left at Augusta

 

[prophetic1]

R.I.P.

Chris Bailey, lead singer of Australian band the Saints, dies

‘Chris lived a life of poetry and music,’ band writes in a post announcing the singer and songwriter’s death

www.theguardian.com

You kind of believe they"ll live for ever...the more you idolised them ....and I did,,,I always had an unrealistic wish that they would play at the G grand final day! When we no longer would be "STRANDED" on one cup ...Stranded as we have been for sooo long....
Chris BAILEY, Ed and the rest of the SAINTS... so many tunes that reach back into my memories.....When they go it gets you much more than you think it will..Especially at a similar age or thereabouts...