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[George]

Works every time Dard Ball Get

 

[Dard Ball Get]

Works every time Dard Ball Get

 

[George]

 

[bergholt]

Poms won't win but this is pretty fun to watch

 

[Mat Mann]

hows this Twitter thread rate-limiting fiasco!! haven't seen a new post from anyone I follow for an hour.

Elons a clown

 

[MUFKilda]

Superb climax to the second test. England looked dead and buried last night, but Stokes has put the match back in play. I'm glad it's another competitive match, it looked like you guys were going to trounce us.

 

[MUFKilda]

150 for Stokes. A great effort.

 

[MUFKilda]

Stokes out for 155. That could be pivotal - only Broad and three tail-lenders left, 70 needed.

 

[MUFKilda]

England 302-9, the customary tail end collapse. It's all over bar the shouting.

 

[Geary Is GOAT]

Cummins has the opportunity to be the funniest man in Australian history and mankad to win this game

 

[MUFKilda]

Australia win by 43 runs to go 2-0 up in the series. Well done, just a bit better once again, but at least England made another game of it. I think Stokes' dismissal saw the England team accept defeat right there.

 

[Joffaboy]

Lol

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[Dard Ball Get]

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Really is nice to be reminded of what an insipid, whinging, elitist bunch of snaggletoothed skin ghosts their lot are.

Cricket is mostly dead to me but I’ve thoroughly enjoyed watching the last few days unfold

 

[StFly]

Really is nice to be reminded of what an insipid, whinging, elitist bunch of snaggletoothed skin ghosts their lot are.

Cricket is mostly dead to me but I’ve thoroughly enjoyed watching the last few days unfold

I'm also watching the CWC lead in tourney for ODI's, it's always been fun for me to watch the old enemy have a cry.

Then again, I do live in the Aussie home of the burning bit so... bit biased.

 

[phantom13]

There’s a solid write up on news.com.au of ALLLLL the times England has flaunted the “spirit” of the game schtick, right down to McCullum doing the same sort of run out 4 times in his career, England doing the same sort of run out against the Kiwis and Bairstow trying to get Marnus just two days earlier.

The hypocrisy is delicious.

Personally I hope Cummins mankads stokes in the last innings of the next game to win the series, **** em, it’s in the rules.

 

[BigPowerForward]

Just watched the footage of Sir Walter Spank-Mybum abusing Kahwaja. The campaigner seemed very uptight. They'll need to use the cat o' nine tail on the campaigner when he next visits his favourite establishment to try and relieve the stress. He must be a merchant banker!

 

[jwikked]

Don’t care what anyone says, if you leave the crease when the ball is live - fair game. That includes the non striker trying to gain an advantage when the bowler is running in.

Never understood the opposition to the mankad. Stay in the crease, simple as.

 

[gringo2011]

Don’t care what anyone says, if you leave the crease when the ball is live - fair game. That includes the non striker trying to gain an advantage when the bowler is running in.

Never understood the opposition to the mankad. Stay in the crease, simple as.

I was always a neurotic batsman as a kid, I'd rather be safe than risk getting made a fool of. **** them, even when you did step out you'd know there was a risk.

 

[George]

I was always a neurotic batsman as a kid, I'd rather be safe than risk getting made a fool of. * them, even when you did step out you'd know there was a risk.

Yep, always had one foot in the crease. People should listen to me too, my highest score was 42.

 

[Mowman]

Yep, always had one foot in the crease. People should listen to me too, my highest score was 42.

IQ score?

 

[George]

IQ score?

You've used that one already. Try again, Einstein.

 

[StFly]

Don’t care what anyone says, if you leave the crease when the ball is live - fair game. That includes the non striker trying to gain an advantage when the bowler is running in.

Never understood the opposition to the mankad. Stay in the crease, simple as.

Just on mankad, I don't like it as in the motion of bowling as a RFM, if in motion I just don't release the ball that's unsportsmanlike unless I have stuffed myself up, as everyone and everything in game means as a bowler, I am bowling that ball. If I then notice that the batter on the other side of stumps is walking with me, that's fine and dandy as I have 10 other players around that can try and stop him outside of myself for then not having the other guy tonk me anywhere in particular. My first thought isn't "he expects me to release this ball, I just won't and will flip the bails and lol at him" that's not in the spirit of being a sportsman, that's gaming the expectation of a fair game.

What Carey did, 100%, that's on Bairstow for just assuming the ball was dead without even bothering what the umpires thought, so if you're at that end, you wait for goddamn confirmation, but that's at the summation of a ball being bowled so the ball is live, I do not consider the ball as live until I, as the bowler, have released it, into play.

That's the issue I have with mankad, as I am holding it top of my run up and as I am in the process of bowling it, it is not live, it is in my possession and I am behind the umpire, I am not live to mankad that inattentive batter.

 

[gringo2011]

Just on mankad, I don't like it as in the motion of bowling as a RFM, if in motion I just don't release the ball that's unsportsmanlike unless I have stuffed myself up, as everyone and everything in game means as a bowler, I am bowling that ball. If I then notice that the batter on the other side of stumps is walking with me, that's fine and dandy as I have 10 other players around that can try and stop him outside of myself for then not having the other guy tonk me anywhere in particular. My first thought isn't "he expects me to release this ball, I just won't and will flip the bails and lol at him" that's not in the spirit of being a sportsman, that's gaming the expectation of a fair game.

What Carey did, 100%, that's on Bairstow for just assuming the ball was dead without even bothering what the umpires thought, so if you're at that end, you wait for goddamn confirmation, but that's at the summation of a ball being bowled so the ball is live, I do not consider the ball as live until I, as the bowler, have released it, into play.

That's the issue I have with mankad, as I am holding it top of my run up and as I am in the process of bowling it, it is not live, it is in my possession and I am behind the umpire, I am not live to mankad that inattentive batter.

Some non striking batsmen take the piss though. They are halfway down the wicket and should be made accountable. I never got why it's such a taboo.

 

[Dard Ball Get]

IQ score?

 

[StFly]

Some non striking batsmen take the piss though. They are halfway down the wicket and should be made accountable. I never got why it's such a taboo.

No they can't, I mean they can try;

38.3 Non-striker leaving his/her ground early


38.3.1

At any time from the moment the ball comes into play until the instant when the bowler would normally have been expected to release the ball, the non-striker is liable to be Run out if he/she is out of his/her ground. In these circumstances the non-striker will be out Run out if he/she is out of his/her ground when his/her wicket is broken by the bowler throwing the ball at the stumps or by the bowler’s hand holding the ball, whether or not the ball is subsequently delivered.


38.3.1.1 The instant when the bowler would normally have been expected to release the ball is defined as the moment the bowler’s arm reaches the highest point of his/her normal bowling action in the delivery swing.


38.3.1.2 Even if the non-striker had left his/her ground before the instant at which the bowler would normally have been expected to release the ball, once the bowler has reached that point it is no longer possible for the bowler to run out the non-striker under this Law.

38.3.2 If the ball is not delivered,


- if there is an appeal, the umpire shall make his/her decision on the Run out.


- if there is no appeal, or if the decision is not out, he/she shall call and signal Dead ball as soon as possible.


- the ball shall not count as one in the over.

In your situation for example, I'd be well within my right to stop my stride and break wicket, that's not a mankad though, that's a run out as batter has legit bolted and disregarded surroundings. In old mankad, I'd have been within my right to essentially mimic a bowling action, apex be damned, and fool everyone that I intended to bowl a ball, when my only intention was to mimic it and catch someone sleeping on expectation bias.

That's why it was deemed unfair and taboo, because that is not within the spirit of the game, you are legit gaming the system doing it, play poker instead, it's more lucrative for one.

The above, I like more as it defines when I am in position to deliver that ball and that ball is live for all involved, it also defines to all when it is live, and defines when I can and cannot break those stumps if your situation arises for example. This is not old mankad, this was revised only last year.

So tldr: I disliked mankad, I like this run-out interpretation better.