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The problem with social media is that people say stupid things to elicit a response and get clicks and followers. People would rather look stupid than not be noticed.
 
*the western world


And the Chinese for giving you gym-bros and booty queens a platform to make endless egotistic tiktoks that are exactly the same and the rest of us losers spend 16 hours a day watching them judging or wanking.
 
The problem with social media is that people say stupid things to elicit a response and get clicks and followers. People would rather look stupid than not be noticed.
No I think she's serious. She's one of your kind, have a talk to her xx
 
Had a guy come into the gym tonight with what I assumed to be his missus, both wanting to learn how to box. He was fully decked out in Muhammad Ali t-shirt and box hog 4's - basically the latest boxing shoe from Adidas. He then proceeded to kick the heavy bag as a warm up until my coach noticed and told him he's gotta use his...y'know...fists.

Looked like the bloke to the left of that image. His missus had better form than he did but it was so grotesque I found it difficult to look away. Poetry in motion.
 

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I think its naïve to thing a yes vote will suddenly make everything wonderful.

That’s a massive load of obfuscation. If people actually knew what it was they’d be nearly 100% yes voters. It basically just guarantees that there will be a constitutional right to have a body representing aboriginals. Every government since we got rid of an aboriginal protectorate has put in bodies along political lines and the next government dissolved and removed or replaced them. This way you need to have a body. It doesn’t even decide how it’s made up or of whom. It’s not a treaty, it doesn’t pretend to fix everything it’s just guaranteeing that they are represented. More than likely they will choose aboriginal people to represent themselves. White people have ****ed it up for 200 years. Might as well give them agency.

Most people who are pushing the no vote are doing as wedge politics. It’s being thrown in as part of the left right culture war and they get ****ed over in the meantime. And the shit about everything stopping until after the vote is just absolute ignorance.
 
That’s a massive load of obfuscation. If people actually knew what it was they’d be nearly 100% yes voters. It basically just guarantees that there will be a constitutional right to have a body representing aboriginals. Every government since we got rid of an aboriginal protectorate has put in bodies along political lines and the next government dissolved and removed or replaced them. This way you need to have a body. It doesn’t even decide how it’s made up or of whom. It’s not a treaty, it doesn’t pretend to fix everything it’s just guaranteeing that they are represented. More than likely they will choose aboriginal people to represent themselves. White people have ****ed it up for 200 years. Might as well give them agency.

Most people who are pushing the no vote are doing as wedge politics. It’s being thrown in as part of the left right culture war and they get ****ed over in the meantime. And the s**t about everything stopping until after the vote is just absolute ignorance.
I lean much more left when it comes to Aussie politics, it's the nutjobs in the states on the left that have pushed me over to the other side. I'll be voting yes but I really couldn't give a stuff about it to be honest
 

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That’s a massive load of obfuscation. If people actually knew what it was they’d be nearly 100% yes voters. It basically just guarantees that there will be a constitutional right to have a body representing aboriginals. Every government since we got rid of an aboriginal protectorate has put in bodies along political lines and the next government dissolved and removed or replaced them. This way you need to have a body. It doesn’t even decide how it’s made up or of whom. It’s not a treaty, it doesn’t pretend to fix everything it’s just guaranteeing that they are represented. More than likely they will choose aboriginal people to represent themselves. White people have ****ed it up for 200 years. Might as well give them agency.

Most people who are pushing the no vote are doing as wedge politics. It’s being thrown in as part of the left right culture war and they get ****ed over in the meantime. And the s**t about everything stopping until after the vote is just absolute ignorance.
I agree with you on the last point about everything stopping until the vote made no sense but this referendum has divided the general population and the indigenous population. Why is there so much resistance from the indigenous community, shouldn't they be overwhelmingly in favour of the voice, and if constitutional lawyers can't even come to a consensus on the implications of the voice, it unfortunately leaves me with more questions than answers.
 
I agree with you on the last point about everything stopping until the vote made no sense but this referendum has divided the general population and the indigenous population. Why is there so much resistance from the indigenous community, shouldn't they be overwhelmingly in favour of the voice, and if constitutional lawyers can't even come to a consensus on the implications of the voice, it unfortunately leaves me with more questions than answers.


They are still mostly unified. Most of the no vote indigenous folks are either from the Liberal party or cookers like Anthony Mundine. Lydia Thorp who is a nutter wants to go head first into treaty and thinks that it's designed to pacify the people who want one.

That guy you put up has a very questionable looking website and I wouldn't be surprised if it's funded by the no campaign. He does these $90 courses on indigenous issues, he's spinning the lines straight from the No campaign prayer book. It smells a bit to me. I'd like to know what his political affiliations are. It looks like a Trojan horse.

The No campaign is all about muddying the water and making a basic thing look scary and complex. The Yes campaign isn't good at selling it either though, like most people who think that they are on the right path, they think people will go with common sense and decency.

It's honestly the most basic thing imaginable. It just makes it so that new governments don't rip up the work of the last lot. Whitlam put in the first representative body, Fraser tore it up and put his own in. Hawke and Keating put one in and Howard ripped it up. Howard put one in Rudd tore it up. Gillard put one in Abbott got rid of it all together. Turnbull put one in, Scotty tore it up. There are big gaps between them, sometimes nothing at all.

Some have been good, some have been campaignery, Howard with his protection stuff took back a lot of hard won rights and they were able to open up mining leases against the will of their local communities under the guise of stopping DV and alcoholism in remote communities. Mining companies are still blowing up our cultural treasures without recrimination. These aren't just important to them. They are world treasures. WA found out how much we care when they tried to make it harder. The No vote will win because most people are wilfully ignorant or have underlying racism toward indigenous people.
 
They are still mostly unified. Most of the no vote indigenous folks are either from the Liberal party or cookers like Anthony Mundine. Lydia Thorp who is a nutter wants to go head first into treaty and thinks that it's designed to pacify the people who want one.

That guy you put up has a very questionable looking website and I wouldn't be surprised if it's funded by the no campaign. He does these $90 courses on indigenous issues, he's spinning the lines straight from the No campaign prayer book. It smells a bit to me. I'd like to know what his political affiliations are. It looks like a Trojan horse.

The No campaign is all about muddying the water and making a basic thing look scary and complex. The Yes campaign isn't good at selling it either though, like most people who think that they are on the right path, they think people will go with common sense and decency.

It's honestly the most basic thing imaginable. It just makes it so that new governments don't rip up the work of the last lot. Whitlam put in the first representative body, Fraser tore it up and put his own in. Hawke and Keating put one in and Howard ripped it up. Howard put one in Rudd tore it up. Gillard put one in Abbott got rid of it all together. Turnbull put one in, Scotty tore it up. There are big gaps between them, sometimes nothing at all.

Some have been good, some have been campaignery, Howard with his protection stuff took back a lot of hard won rights and they were able to open up mining leases against the will of their local communities under the guise of stopping DV and alcoholism in remote communities. Mining companies are still blowing up our cultural treasures without recrimination. These aren't just important to them. They are world treasures. WA found out how much we care when they tried to make it harder. The No vote will win because most people are wilfully ignorant or have underlying racism toward indigenous people.
Can’t agree with your last line there mate
The no vote will get up because of the terrible job the government has done with the information and how it will work. The main reason will be Albanese incompetence in selling it to the people
 
And the Chinese for giving you gym-bros and booty queens a platform to make endless egotistic tiktoks that are exactly the same and the rest of us losers spend 16 hours a day watching them judging or wanking.

Talk all the smack you want about stupid dances, "life hacks", gamers, cooking 'tips' etc... But you leave the booty queens out of this!
 
The NO campaign has been very energetic and quite successful in muddying the waters. They have been able to make this referendum about everything other than what is at the very heart of the matter which is indigenous recognition.

Anecdotally, the number of my friends who are regurgitating the rhetoric “I agree BUT…” is off the charts. And I think it all comes down to fear. Of what, I’m not even sure they really understand.

For me this is really easy. Do I feel in my heart Aboriginal and Torres Straight Islanders should be recognised in our constitution?

Yes.
 
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