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[Dard Ball Get]

I saw some stats. Cost of living was the big one. Most people are struggling to live a lifestyle they used to. The war in Gaza is a huge issue for the younger voters too.

Must I spell it out, the 15-20 million voters that have “disappeared” never existed. They rorted the last election

 

[gringo2011]

Must I spell it out, the 15-20 million voters that have “disappeared” never existed. They rorted the last election

Why wouldn't they just do it again then? I think last time Trump had people come out to take him down. Biden/Harris showed that they were not going to do anything better so got the arse too.

 

[Dard Ball Get]

Why wouldn't they just do it again then? I think last time Trump had people come out to take him down. Biden/Harris showed that they were not going to do anything better so got the arse too.

Fear of getting caught now folks are awake to it? No excuse for mail in ballots?

15m+ is too large a gap to be an anomaly or a show of force imo.

Joe making a speech apparently? Maybe he’ll tell us, he could say anything

 

[Dr Spaceman]

Fear of getting caught now folks are awake to it? No excuse for mail in ballots?

15m+ is too large a gap to be an anomaly or a show of force imo.

Joe making a speech apparently? Maybe he’ll tell us, he could say anything [emoji23]

 

[Armoooo]

Or, could it be something else?
Biden more popular and stirring than Obamna? Me thinks not.

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Nobody voted for Biden, all those people voted against Trump.

4 years later and the Trump hate just doesn't get enough bums out of seats.

If you're trying to imply that the election was stolen just because Trump said he did publicly (while admitting the opposite privately), I have a bridge to sell you.

 

[Dard Ball Get]

Nobody voted for Biden, all those people voted against Trump.

4 years later and the Trump hate just doesn't get enough bums out of seats.

If you're trying to imply that the election was stolen just because Trump said he did publicly (while admitting the opposite privately), I have a bridge to sell you.

Oh yeah that sounds reasonable.

You’re telling me Dem enthusiasm at near Obama levels, an “insurrection”, the fall of Roe, Trump’s SCOTUS immunity deal, and pRoJeCt 2025 just wasn’t enough to get them as razzed as last time?

How much for the bridge? You’re likely underselling it and I love a good flip job

 

[Dard Ball Get]

Twitter has been an absolute gold mine

 

[gringo2011]

Oh yeah that sounds reasonable.

You’re telling me Dem enthusiasm at near Obama levels, an “insurrection”, the fall of Roe, Trump’s SCOTUS immunity deal, and pRoJeCt 2025 just wasn’t enough to get them as razzed as last time?

How much for the bridge? You’re likely underselling it and I love a good flip job

Biden moved into the spot on the right that Trump moved out of and lost the people who want real left policy not the identity shit. They lost me on Israel, you can't pretend to care while supplying weapons to a messianic death cult. Cost of living makes everyone desperate too. The illegal immigrant stuff was very appealing for people who want someone to blame and a way out.

I'd be the same with Labor now. Why would you go out and vote when Albo is just Morrison with a lispy voice. No-one wants a bunch of neo con ********* that won't produce policy that makes life better for the masses.

 

[gringo2011]

The right are also much better at moving on to social media instead of wasting money on legacy media that only reaches a tiny part of the population too.

 

[Armoooo]

Oh yeah that sounds reasonable.

You’re telling me Dem enthusiasm at near Obama levels, an “insurrection”, the fall of Roe, Trump’s SCOTUS immunity deal, and pRoJeCt 2025 just wasn’t enough to get them as razzed as last time?

How much for the bridge? You’re likely underselling it and I love a good flip job

Every court case thrown out due to there being absolutely no evidence.

Some of the most disputed states had republicans in charge of the polling and the courts that oversaw the challenges.

Trump himself said it was crazy.

Trump started planting the seeds years before the election, it was all a show to take advantage of his gullible base.

Fox News admitted in court that they were making up their claims.

I know you have a lot of trust in your intuition, but sometimes you need to know your gut feel will be wrong. There is just no way that millions of votes could have been forged across hundreds of counties and not a single person noticing.

 

[Dard Ball Get]

Every court case thrown out due to there being absolutely no evidence.

Some of the most disputed states had republicans in charge of the polling and the courts that oversaw the challenges.

Trump himself said it was crazy.

Trump started planting the seeds years before the election, it was all a show to take advantage of his gullible base.

Fox News admitted in court that they were making up their claims.

I know you have a lot of trust in your intuition, but sometimes you need to know your gut feel will be wrong. There is just no way that millions of votes could have been forged across hundreds of counties and not a single person noticing.

Yeah but how much for that bridge?

Gullible base, lol.

 

[Dard Ball Get]

Biden moved into the spot on the right that Trump moved out of and lost the people who want real left policy not the identity shit. They lost me on Israel, you can't pretend to care while supplying weapons to a messianic death cult. Cost of living makes everyone desperate too. The illegal immigrant stuff was very appealing for people who want someone to blame and a way out.

I'd be the same with Labor now. Why would you go out and vote when Albo is just Morrison with a lispy voice. No-one wants a bunch of neo con ********* that won't produce policy that makes life better for the masses.

So, where did the voters go?

 

[Armoooo]

Yeah but how much for that bridge?

Gullible base, lol.

Why did the republican states go along with the steal? Were they apart of the deep state? The republican controlled intelligence agencies either didn't notice anything or were a part of it?

They were got to choose their own rules for voting, put their own people into oversee it.

Why did they go along with it and why have none of the hundreds, if not thousands of people who would have had to have been involved not speak up?

Literally zero evidence. It would have to have been the greatest crime of all time.

Seriously man, this is flat earth levels of stupid.

 

[SaintsSeptember]

Lol at playing Fortunate Son.

 

[StFly]

So, where did the voters go?

There's studies here, that the majority are trending to independent and minorities and away from the Lib-Lab "I always vote this way" instance, and here if you're on the role you're there to vote.

There, not so much, you can literally stay home, no shits given, onus is on you to register and thus you own your vote and to not vote is in turn a vote of dissatisfaction in the process.

Bullshitter in then going to BS, unpopular is going to continue to be unpopular where there is a silent protest going on, be it apathy, change, dissastisfaction or otherwise. Thus BS gets groupies and unpopular loses things. Eg; you are aware RFKj was a listed Democrat, shifted to Independent, endorsed Trump, thus groupie to MAGA. Trumps own VP pick is on record as "trump = hitler" and "trump = invalid" so it's like, groupies are mad, no on likes groupies really but they are useful in a popularity contest.

 

[Sully111]

Biden was a good candidate in 2020 and coming off Covid people evidently were desperate to get Trump out of power.
But thats thats kind of the point. The Democrats failed badly to maintain those new voters. No one expects a full retention, but even retaining a third of that extra 15 million would have kept them in power if they were focused in the key states.

The people who were rallied in 2020 didn't bother this time around and that's squarely on the democrats thinking they could rely on Biden again then pivoting too late and losing a lot of them. The addition of Harris being both a woman and black just cannot work in America either.

The more the left want to use this as an excuse, the further away they are from realising why they actually lost.

 

[saintron]

This is a footy forum site not a policical site

 

[Sully111]

This is a footy forum site not a policical site

This is a random discussion thread

 

[Armoooo]

The more the left want to use this as an excuse, the further away they are from realising why they actually lost.

I definitely don't think it was the deciding factor, especially when Biden would have lost by even more. But you can't just disregard the fact that there is a certain amount of people in the US who are not ready for a woman president.

 

[Sully111]

I definitely don't think it was the deciding factor, especially when Biden would have lost by even more. But you can't just disregard the fact that there is a certain amount of people in the US who are not ready for a woman president.

Sure

But the same could have been said about a black president.

I have no doubt a woman could be voted in, as long as she was a strong candidate.

 

[Yawkey way]

Biden moved into the spot on the right that Trump moved out of and lost the people who want real left policy not the identity shit. They lost me on Israel, you can't pretend to care while supplying weapons to a messianic death cult. Cost of living makes everyone desperate too. The illegal immigrant stuff was very appealing for people who want someone to blame and a way out.

I'd be the same with Labor now. Why would you go out and vote when Albo is just Morrison with a lispy voice. No-one wants a bunch of neo con ********* that won't produce policy that makes life better for the masses.

Gringo seriously mate have you seen the pictures and numbers from the absolutely disastrous border policy of Biden/Harris. It’s real, not a beat up and was a massive election issue. Trump and the republicans have no issue with legal immigration as stated clearly yet again by Trump after his win.

Kamala Harris was a terrible candidate with a list of crazy positions which the legacy media tried their best to hide. There’s a reason she was first out of the race back in 2020. So no imo it wasn’t just shades of grey it really was a stark choice and the people across the US have made that choice.

The democrats have a lot of work to do if they want to turn things around but at present they seem shocked and hell bent on continuing with the same garbage, trump is hitler, we’re great, look what you’ve done you morons blah blah.

I’ve been around a while and I’ve never seen anything like the hit job the legacy media did on trump and they still lost. Cutting and dicing conversations to a few words to convey sinister completely misleading meaning happened time and time again, just a disgrace. That and just straight up bold faced lies by so many people again just terrible . It will be interesting to see how they fair going forward given despite their best efforts Harris lost. The reach and impact of guys like Rogan is very interesting and will no doubt be studied in depth. One things obvious the legacy media have to get back to reporting in a fair and balanced way and stop acting like political activists. Maybe then they can regain some trust and relevancy, but a lot are bleeding money, interesting times to say the least.

Whoever has been working Biden’s strings has turned the US into a joke, third world tactics of lawfare and trying to jail or in some cases jailing your political opponents and on and on it goes. An absolutely amazing win by Trump and the republicans with every chance unless they **** things up badly of getting 12 years in the White House imo.

Trump couldn’t have been more upfront about what he wanted to do out of the blocks and has a clear mandate to do as he promised. Let’s see how that works out and just watch the dems continue the yeah we know but we know better resistance at every turn.

As for Albanese there’s a very real chance he will get turfed out as well which is quite amazing given where he started. I guess if you do a lousy job and ignore the voters a new more volatile electorate will turf you out. Interesting early play out of the dems playbook, cancel student debt = reduce HECS debt by 20%. Negative gearing is a looser, Keating effectively abolished it and quickly had to reverse course. Best approach might be shut up, play and straight bat, pray for a rate cut and hope to squeak back in.

Anyway game over back to the draft.

 

[Yawkey way]

The more the left want to use this as an excuse, the further away they are from realising why they actually lost.

A competent female candidate of any colour will have no problem being elected. Given two opportunities both times they have failed to run one, Clinton you have to be kidding and Harris was an absolute joke. If anyone cared to actually look at this woman’s record and stated policy positions it’s a wonder she didn’t loose by more. But hey she only lost because she a woman and a black one at that .

 

[Dard Ball Get]

Gringo seriously mate have you seen the pictures and numbers from the absolutely disastrous border policy of Biden/Harris. It’s real, not a beat up and was a massive election issue. Trump and the republicans have no issue with legal immigration as stated clearly yet again by Trump after his win.

Kamala Harris was a terrible candidate with a list of crazy positions which the legacy media tried their best to hide. There’s a reason she was first out of the race back in 2020. So no imo it wasn’t just shades of grey it really was a stark choice and the people across the US have made that choice.

The democrats have a lot of work to do if they want to turn things around but at present they seem shocked and hell bent on continuing with the same garbage, trump is hitler, we’re great, look what you’ve done you morons blah blah.

I’ve been around a while and I’ve never seen anything like the hit job the legacy media did on trump and they still lost. Cutting and dicing conversations to a few words to convey sinister completely misleading meaning happened time and time again, just a disgrace. That and just straight up bold faced lies by so many people again just terrible . It will be interesting to see how they fair going forward given despite their best efforts Harris lost. The reach and impact of guys like Rogan is very interesting and will no doubt be studied in depth. One things obvious the legacy media have to get back to reporting in a fair and balanced way and stop acting like political activists. Maybe then they can regain some trust and relevancy, but a lot are bleeding money, interesting times to say the least.

Whoever has been working Biden’s strings has turned the US into a joke, third world tactics of lawfare and trying to jail or in some cases jailing your political opponents and on and on it goes. An absolutely amazing win by Trump and the republicans with every chance unless they **** things up badly of getting 12 years in the White House imo.

Trump couldn’t have been more upfront about what he wanted to do out of the blocks and has a clear mandate to do as he promised. Let’s see how that works out and just watch the dems continue the yeah we know but we know better resistance at every turn.

As for Albanese there’s a very real chance he will get turfed out as well which is quite amazing given where he started. I guess if you do a lousy job and ignore the voters a new more volatile electorate will turf you out. Interesting early play out of the dems playbook, cancel student debt = reduce HECS debt by 20%. Negative gearing is a looser, Keating effectively abolished it and quickly had to reverse course. Best approach might be shut up, play and straight bat, pray for a rate cut and hope to squeak back in.

Anyway game over back to the draft.

 

[gringo2011]

So, where did the voters go?

They just don't show up unless they are motivated to do so.

 

[gringo2011]

Gringo seriously mate have you seen the pictures and numbers from the absolutely disastrous border policy of Biden/Harris. It’s real, not a beat up and was a massive election issue. Trump and the republicans have no issue with legal immigration as stated clearly yet again by Trump after his win.

Kamala Harris was a terrible candidate with a list of crazy positions which the legacy media tried their best to hide. There’s a reason she was first out of the race back in 2020. So no imo it wasn’t just shades of grey it really was a stark choice and the people across the US have made that choice.

The democrats have a lot of work to do if they want to turn things around but at present they seem shocked and hell bent on continuing with the same garbage, trump is hitler, we’re great, look what you’ve done you morons blah blah.

I’ve been around a while and I’ve never seen anything like the hit job the legacy media did on trump and they still lost. Cutting and dicing conversations to a few words to convey sinister completely misleading meaning happened time and time again, just a disgrace. That and just straight up bold faced lies by so many people again just terrible . It will be interesting to see how they fair going forward given despite their best efforts Harris lost. The reach and impact of guys like Rogan is very interesting and will no doubt be studied in depth. One things obvious the legacy media have to get back to reporting in a fair and balanced way and stop acting like political activists. Maybe then they can regain some trust and relevancy, but a lot are bleeding money, interesting times to say the least.

Whoever has been working Biden’s strings has turned the US into a joke, third world tactics of lawfare and trying to jail or in some cases jailing your political opponents and on and on it goes. An absolutely amazing win by Trump and the republicans with every chance unless they **** things up badly of getting 12 years in the White House imo.

Trump couldn’t have been more upfront about what he wanted to do out of the blocks and has a clear mandate to do as he promised. Let’s see how that works out and just watch the dems continue the yeah we know but we know better resistance at every turn.

As for Albanese there’s a very real chance he will get turfed out as well which is quite amazing given where he started. I guess if you do a lousy job and ignore the voters a new more volatile electorate will turf you out. Interesting early play out of the dems playbook, cancel student debt = reduce HECS debt by 20%. Negative gearing is a looser, Keating effectively abolished it and quickly had to reverse course. Best approach might be shut up, play and straight bat, pray for a rate cut and hope to squeak back in.

Anyway game over back to the draft.

Trump is aided by the legacy media making him out to be a rebel and outsider. He's still a corporate stooge.

The border stuff is partly true but again the whole illegals being brought in to vote stuff is a load of crap. Capitalism needs to import people to make the economy keep moving because growth stops as soon as they do. Kamala was a terrible choice no argument there.

Not sure why anyone thinks Trump is a saviour or outsider though. I think people will be bitterly disappointed when he doesn't do a lot of the stuff he claims he will. Hopefully he doesn't do a lot of his reforms because I don't think it will be good for the people who think he's going to fix their issues.

Albo will go down for the same reason. He's not fixing structural stuff while there is a real strain on household budgets. Inflation is an incumbent killer.