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[Saintscomemarchingin]

Fair to say quite a few of us are looking a bit different to fourteen years ago!

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Depends on your stress levels, don't barrack for St.Kilda f.c

 

[ScrappyDo]

I wouldn't know. Can't stand her.

This is all a bit concerning. I've been feeding my girl a solid diet of 60's rock and 70's funk in the vein hope of avoiding this kind of stuff. If it hasn't worked for you then l think I'm in trouble.

 

[Sully111]

This is all a bit concerning. I've been feeding my girl a solid diet of 60's rock and 70's funk in the vein hope of avoiding this kind of stuff. If it hasn't worked for you then l think I'm in trouble.

My 14 year old son has really diverse taste in music. It's pretty cool. He's started collecting vinyl.

My 12 year old got into Billie Eilish last year. He then discovered Olivia and digs her too now. Both of them can't stand Taylor Swift. Olivia writes some ok songs and some have a rock feel to them. I didn't mind the gig (good, tight live band) but I'm pretty open minded. I'm sure my 12 year old's taste will develop as he gets older. I'm teaching him bass and he's having singing lessons so that will help. He's already got a bit of a band started. I'm helping them write original music. His drummer (bloody talented kid) is into the Foo Fighters so it'll be interesting to see how it all develops.

 

[ScrappyDo]

My 14 year old son has really diverse taste in music. It's pretty cool. He's started collecting vinyl.

My 12 year old got into Billie Eilish last year. He then discovered Olivia and digs her too now. Both of them can't stand Taylor Swift. Olivia writes some ok songs and some have a rock feel to them. I didn't mind the gig (good, tight live band) but I'm pretty open minded. I'm sure my 12 year old's taste will develop as he gets older. I'm teaching him bass and he's having singing lessons so that will help. He's already got a bit of a band started. I'm helping them write original music. His drummer (bloody talented kid) is into the Foo Fighters so it'll be interesting to see how it all develops.

Good stuff. Sounds like they're on the right path.

 

[True Believer]

This is all a bit concerning. I've been feeding my girl a solid diet of 60's rock and 70's funk in the vein hope of avoiding this kind of stuff. If it hasn't worked for you then l think I'm in trouble.

It's not entirely in vain, but it is a losing battle - you cannot stop peer pressure. My kids have grown up on classic 70's and 80 's rock and heavy metal (Sabbath, Maiden, Metallica, etc). My daughter still went nuts over ****ing Harry Stiles.....makes me sick. Had thoughts of turning myself in at the local cop shop.....

 

[ScrappyDo]

It's not entirely in vain, but it is a losing battle - you cannot stop peer pressure. My kids have grown up on classic 70's and 80 's rock and heavy metal (Sabbath, Maiden, Metallica, etc). My daughter still went nuts over ****ing Harry Stiles.....makes me sick. Had thoughts of turning myself in at the local cop shop.....

I'm figuring it's about losing the battle in their teens to win the war when they've grown up. You'll never compete against school yard popularity but providing alternatives "should" win out if they take an interest.

 

[SaintsSeptember]

It's not entirely in vain, but it is a losing battle - you cannot stop peer pressure. My kids have grown up on classic 70's and 80 's rock and heavy metal (Sabbath, Maiden, Metallica, etc). My daughter still went nuts over ****ing Harry Stiles.....makes me sick. Had thoughts of turning myself in at the local cop shop.....

The music industry doesn't choose good musicians, they choose a "person they can sell".
All the autotune and pitch correction just makes it easier to promote their pretty girl or guy, and harder for actual great singers to stand out.
Often good singers are also using those tools, and in practice it just makes them sound more generic.

 

[ScrappyDo]

The music industry doesn't choose good musicians, they choose a "person they can sell".
All the autotune and pitch correction just makes it easier to promote their pretty girl or guy, and harder for actual great singers to stand out.
Often good singers are also using those tools, and in practice it just makes them sound more generic.

Easy filtering mechanism for me. Auto tune goes on, song goes off.

 

[SG34]

I fancied myself as a writer/muso/tragic (still do!), but if was in 1989, at twenty five , I started accepting that computers, DJs, mixers, producers became the music makers and delivery was sing and dance. The days of the guitar hero died in the mid-70s as far as I was concerned, but there was still room for the cool auteur, guitar in hand looking cool, until ‘89. Then bam! All over. Better to learn how to use a sequencer and fast.

Ever since then I live in a lost dream.
I think any of the kids who write comments about old school rock songs on YouTube like, ‘hey I’m 16 and I LOVE this’ are really not being true to themselves.

For twenty years it’s been , 1) get computer , 2) Buy a DAW probably Ableton LIve, learn it, eat breathe and sleep it 3) make beats and loops.. then reach out and connect.
Unfortunately not one but of me is interested. So for parents and their kids, I find it interesting, they will pay for piano lessons, guitar lessons but they don’t need to pay for DAW lessons - the kids who make the music will find em and do it themselves.

 

[SaintsSeptember]

I fancied myself as a writer/muso/tragic (still do!), but if was in 1989, at twenty five , I started accepting that computers, DJs, mixers, producers became the music makers and delivery was sing and dance. The days of the guitar hero died in the mid-70s as far as I was concerned, but there was still room for the cool auteur, guitar in hand looking cool, until ‘89. Then bam! All over. Better to learn how to use a sequencer and fast.

Ever since then I live in a lost dream.
I think any of the kids who write comments about old school rock songs on YouTube like, ‘hey I’m 16 and I LOVE this’ are really not being true to themselves.

For twenty years it’s been , 1) get computer , 2) Buy a DAW probably Ableton LIve, learn it, eat breathe and sleep it 3) make beats and loops.. then reach out and connect.
Unfortunately not one but of me is interested. So for parents and their kids, I find it interesting, they will pay for piano lessons, guitar lessons but they don’t need to pay for DAW lessons - the kids who make the music will find em and do it themselves.

I remember Sweet Child of mine sounding just so refreshing after all the sequenced crap coming out all the time.

Earlier in the 80s i'd seen Snowy White ( band member of Thin Lizzy, and touring guitarist with Pink Floyd ) doing Bird of Paradise on John Torv's show, or maybe Rock Arena.
I asked about it in a local record shop , and the w***er running it first laughed at Snowy White's silly name, then said he only stocks top 100 albums. To which i replied , "how do they get into the top 100"?

Anyway, my mate bought it eventually and i taped it. ( We took it in turns buying the Record, then both did a really good taped copy to play, so we didn't scratch up the record ).

My son likes the music soundtracks from video games, which i'll admit sound a lot more complex than pop music.

I'm sure Snowy could have sung better with pitch correction. But whatever.

 

[From 45]

My 14 year old son has really diverse taste in music. It's pretty cool. He's started collecting vinyl.

My 12 year old got into Billie Eilish last year. He then discovered Olivia and digs her too now. Both of them can't stand Taylor Swift. Olivia writes some ok songs and some have a rock feel to them. I didn't mind the gig (good, tight live band) but I'm pretty open minded. I'm sure my 12 year old's taste will develop as he gets older. I'm teaching him bass and he's having singing lessons so that will help. He's already got a bit of a band started. I'm helping them write original music. His drummer (bloody talented kid) is into the Foo Fighters so it'll be interesting to see how it all develops.

My daughter also went to the Olivia Rodrigo concert and to be fair the videos I saw seemed like she was pretty good. Unfortunately she’s a swifty fan as well. But all those Radiohead songs I sang to her as a toddler has paid off as some of her favourite songs are by Radiohead which we get to listen to together in the car. She’s also warming to Faith No More.

So there’s hope

 

[Sully111]

My daughter also went to the Olivia Rodrigo concert and to be fair the videos I saw seemed like she was pretty good. Unfortunately she’s a swifty fan as well. But all those Radiohead songs I sang to her as a toddler has paid off as some of her favourite songs are by Radiohead which we get to listen to together in the car. She’s also warming to Faith No More.

So there’s hope

My 14 year old is a huge Radiohead fan. Kid A was his very first Vinyl purchase.

 

[From 45]

My 14 year old is a huge Radiohead fan. Kid A was his very first Vinyl purchase.

That makes my heart flutter. Absolutely love that. He has great taste

 

[PoppedCorn]

She’s also warming to Faith No More.

So there’s hope

King for a day fool for a lifetime always gets a rotation for me
Love that album

 

[From 45]

King for a day fool for a lifetime always gets a rotation for me
Love that album

Their most underrated album. It my daily morning listen. It’s sets up my day

 

[bergholt]

King for a day fool for a lifetime always gets a rotation for me
Love that album

I never quite got it, The Real Thing and Angel Dust are their pinnacles for mine

 

[gringo2011]

I fancied myself as a writer/muso/tragic (still do!), but if was in 1989, at twenty five , I started accepting that computers, DJs, mixers, producers became the music makers and delivery was sing and dance. The days of the guitar hero died in the mid-70s as far as I was concerned, but there was still room for the cool auteur, guitar in hand looking cool, until ‘89. Then bam! All over. Better to learn how to use a sequencer and fast.

Ever since then I live in a lost dream.
I think any of the kids who write comments about old school rock songs on YouTube like, ‘hey I’m 16 and I LOVE this’ are really not being true to themselves.

For twenty years it’s been , 1) get computer , 2) Buy a DAW probably Ableton LIve, learn it, eat breathe and sleep it 3) make beats and loops.. then reach out and connect.
Unfortunately not one but of me is interested. So for parents and their kids, I find it interesting, they will pay for piano lessons, guitar lessons but they don’t need to pay for DAW lessons - the kids who make the music will find em and do it themselves.

My son wouldn't learn an instrument but taught himself Ableton and Logic and uses a midi keyboard. He loves old school electronic stuff so he's buying heaps of old analogue crap now. His room looks like an electronic meth lab but he doesn't produce anything that profitable with it.

 

[SG34]

My son wouldn't learn an instrument but taught himself Ableton and Logic and uses a midi keyboard. He loves old school electronic stuff so he's buying heaps of old analogue crap now. His room looks like an electronic meth lab but he doesn't produce anything that profitable with it.

But he must be loving it it. Good on him. Although I'm a minimalist garage band (as in Velvet Underground not the Apple DAW) guy, I am partial to the beautiful tones of synths in that '78 - '82 era. (Before the horrible Yamaha DX7 took over) Prophet 5, Roland Jupiter 8 and Juno 6, Korgs, Yamaha etc.,

If you and your son ever get a an arpegiattor pedal for a guitar, let me know! One that can pulse a chord at a preset frequency and be in synch with a drum machine - that would be my dream pedal!

 

[PoppedCorn]

Was given a yamaha keyboard about a month ago
It just sits here lol

I never quite got it, The Real Thing and Angel Dust are their pinnacles for mine

Star AD, Cuckoo For CaCa.
I dont mind their earlier stuff just dont play it very often

 

[gringo2011]

But he must be loving it it. Good on him. Although I'm a minimalist garage band (as in Velvet Underground not the Apple DAW) guy, I am partial to the beautiful tones of synths in that '78 - '82 era. (Before the horrible Yamaha DX7 took over) Prophet 5, Roland Jupiter 8 and Juno 6, Korgs, Yamaha etc.,

If you and your son ever get a an arpegiattor pedal for a guitar, let me know! One that can pulse a chord at a preset frequency and be in synch with a drum machine - that would be my dream pedal!

When I was in Japan I couldn't believe the pedals you could buy. They would have had one there for sure. Guitar shops had so many obscure vintage and new pedals.

 

[Sully111]

Did someone say pedals?

Hmmmm... pedals.....

 

[True Believer]

Did someone say pedals?

Hmmmm... pedals.....

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I can see an Archer Klon Centaur knock-off, a tube-screamer of some sort and what I assume is a Mooer micro-pedal, the rest are a mystery........

 

[dudeintheswamp]

But he must be loving it it. Good on him. Although I'm a minimalist garage band (as in Velvet Underground not the Apple DAW) guy, I am partial to the beautiful tones of synths in that '78 - '82 era. (Before the horrible Yamaha DX7 took over) Prophet 5, Roland Jupiter 8 and Juno 6, Korgs, Yamaha etc.,

If you and your son ever get a an arpegiattor pedal for a guitar, let me know! One that can pulse a chord at a preset frequency and be in synch with a drum machine - that would be my dream pedal!

Have you looked into some of the tremolo pedals out there? Some of them can sync to bpm...

I can see an Archer Klon Centaur knock-off, a tube-screamer of some sort and what I assume is a Mooer micro-pedal, the rest are a mystery........

Cool, yeah I have some of these too, the Flint, crybaby, bad monkey. Love the Flint!

 

[bergholt]

Star AD, Cuckoo For CaCa.
I dont mind their earlier stuff just dont play it very often

Yeah maybe I’ll give it a spin today

 

[Sully111]

I can see an Archer Klon Centaur knock-off, a tube-screamer of some sort and what I assume is a Mooer micro-pedal, the rest are a mystery........

I can give you the whole run down if you like