Mega Thread The Random Thoughts Thread Part 1

[I Dont Care]

I think black flags are associated with pirates

That's an archaic racist view

 

[Eddie Dingle]

I also think of pirates.

 

[Lagooner]

I think the new Australian flag should be green and gold prison bars.

Convict pride.

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

I think black flags are associated with pirates

Thats why I asked if there are flagologist who know - not guess. Flags have been around for several thousand years. Pirates for maybe 500. There must be some older reason why.

ISIL flag is black. You would think the African nations that got independance post WWII woild have used some black but their must be some convention.

 

[Stromageddon]

Q: Which Hollywood actress would you take on a date and why?
A: Mila Kunis, because she is very, very good looking! She looks like fun as well.

Haha no pretensions whatsoever, love it.

Kinda shocked he didn't chose Sarah Hyland...

 

[raman]

Kinda shocked he didn't chose Sarah Hyland...

Still plays a teenager on TV, best to be careful.

 

[I Dont Care]

Thats why I asked if there are flagologist who know - not guess. Flags have been around for several thousand years. Pirates for maybe 500. There must be some older reason why.

ISIL flag is black. You would think the African nations that got independance post WWII woild have used some black but their must be some convention.

Oh...I misread. I thought you were looking for a 'flogologist'. I shall go then

 

[Stromageddon]

The only appropriate flag Australia could adopt when we become a republic would be the Boxing Kangaroo, the Eureka Flag or one of these.

yeah

Green/Gold Southern Cross. Kinda Aussie.

The southern cross above the red land surrounded by white beaches and blue ocean.

 

[Papa G]

NZ PM John Key has called for a change in the Kiwi flag. Wants a silver fern on it. Says he might call a referendum in 2015. Might be a bit of kite flying on his part but have said for a long time I reckon the Kiwis will beat us to a republic and flag change and we will sheepishly follow. Pun intended.

Any flagologists out there who can explain why countries dont have all or majority black flags? You would think a black flag with a silver fern would win any vote.

Ths Canadians got it right in the lead up to their centenary of independence in 1967. Have the debate start in 1963, move it to parliament in 1964 after a debate set up a committee, ask for deaigns from the public, several months later vote on it and when the committe votes 15-0 for one design in late 1964, it is adopted and officially changed by the queen in February 1965. No Canadian since has said lets change the flag it doesnt represent Canada.

The funny thing is, the Kiwi's are far more Anglophiled than Australia is. They didn't have the post war Continental European migration that Australia had and therefore are very much more British in their heritage and in many ways outlook. Hell, due to the rainfall, scenically, NZ even looks like the UK.

 

[Stromageddon]

Still plays a teenager on TV, best to be careful.

Just realised the CLEO magazine thing was sponsored by Renault.

 

[Jumbo]

I don't like pirates but I sure do love em I & J Sea Shanty's.

 

[Stromageddon]

The funny thing is, the Kiwi's are far more Anglophiled than Australia is. They didn't have the post war Continental European migration that Australia had and therefore are very much more British in their heritage and in many ways outlook. Hell, due to the rainfall, scenically, NZ even looks like the UK.

NZ are exponentially more in tune with their indigenous roots and autonomy, however, compared to Australia. So they have that going for them.

 

[I Dont Care]

Changing the Flag is always a mixed emotion. I am pro-republic, but also respect our Diggers

 

[Janus]

Thats why I asked if there are flagologist who know - not guess. Flags have been around for several thousand years. Pirates for maybe 500. There must be some older reason why.

ISIL flag is black. You would think the African nations that got independance post WWII woild have used some black but their must be some convention.

Because a black flag is the international symbol to parley ie discuss treaties etc, especially regarding maritime dealings.

That's why pirates used it - it was a subterfuge to get closer to their enemies before they realized they weren't there to talk...

 

[Stromageddon]

Also this is also a candidate for our flag. I'd support it.

 

[Trewth]

I feel like Captain Obvious posting this but apparently black flags symbolise a whole bunch of things. I always thought they represented anarchy and that's the reason Pirates used it etc. Anyway - http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_black_flags

 

[Lagooner]

Thats why I asked if there are flagologist who know - not guess. Flags have been around for several thousand years. Pirates for maybe 500. There must be some older reason why.

ISIL flag is black. You would think the African nations that got independance post WWII woild have used some black but their must be some convention.

The national flags that exist today would actually be fairly recent designs (historically speaking), in line with the emergence of the associated Nation-States. Before then provincal/regional flags would've been used.

Most current national flag designs are probably only 200-400 years old.

Out of interest, Australia's flag is only 61 years old officially.

 

[chiwigi]

The national flags that exist today would actually be fairly recent designs (historically speaking), in line with the emergence of the associated Nation-States. Before then provincal/regional flags would've been used.

Most current national flag designs are probably only 200-400 years old.

Out of interest, Australia's flag is only 61 years old officially.

Most are even younger, only the likes of the Union Jack come anywhere near the 400 year mark (the current one has only been used since 1801). Nation states have only really existed for about 300 years. The oldest is Denmark's (which cheats as simply being a cross) which is about 500 years old. But Denmark has always had a weird existence as a nation/province.

 

[El_Scorcho]

The only appropriate flag Australia could adopt when we become a republic would be the Boxing Kangaroo, the Eureka Flag or one of these.

This one seems logical.

 

[manureid]

I am no monarchist, but I would probably prefer to keep the flag we have.

 

[chiwigi]

NZ PM John Key has called for a change in the Kiwi flag. Wants a silver fern on it. Says he might call a referendum in 2015. Might be a bit of kite flying on his part but have said for a long time I reckon the Kiwis will beat us to a republic and flag change and we will sheepishly follow. Pun intended.

Any flagologists out there who can explain why countries dont have all or majority black flags? You would think a black flag with a silver fern would win any vote.

Ths Canadians got it right in the lead up to their centenary of independence in 1967. Have the debate start in 1963, move it to parliament in 1964 after a debate set up a committee, ask for deaigns from the public, several months later vote on it and when the committe votes 15-0 for one design in late 1964, it is adopted and officially changed by the queen in February 1965. No Canadian since has said lets change the flag it doesnt represent Canada.

We are called vexillologist's .
Black flags are uncommon in Western countries because the red white and blue is often the symbol of the blood, race and sky/sea. There are plenty of black images and black on some older flags but a majority doesn't make sense (Germany's modern and pre war flags for example).

To use black as a battle standard, the role for which flags are intended, also defeats the purpose as they would be difficult to see in bad light, particularly if being used as a jack. Black flags are also used as the opposite to white flags, a signal that there will be no surrender nor quarter given (Genghis Khan established this usage).

 

[chiwigi]

I am no monarchist, but I would probably prefer to keep the flag we have.

In terms of flag design etc. It is VERY shit.

A good Australian style is like that of the NT.

 

[Dylan8]

We are called vexillologist's .

What a mouthful

 

[Ford Fairlane]

Never get between Joe Hockey and his pizza.

 

[manureid]

In terms of flag design etc. It is VERY shit.

A good Australian style is like that of the NT.

It is probably not to do with the design of it, I am sure someone could come up with a very trendy one. It is just holds historical value now I guess.