Mega Thread The Random Thoughts Thread Part 1

[Dylan8]

Legalisation will not fix drug abuse. Not even close. It's a poor argument really as Howard's gun laws has actually fixed a lot of shit and prevented bad shit from happening. Prohibition has not done that to drugs. Legalisation will not do it. Only cultural change will.

People who take too many drugs would continue to take too many drugs, whether they get them from the silk road or the smokes counter at woolies, and the negative effects on society will also be felt.

Cultural change will.not.happen under prohibition because it prevents the stigma from ever being removed. Basically every stat I've seen about countries and states which have legalised drugs has been a reduction of use. Again it sounds pretty logical to say "if you legalise it it will be more prevalent" but saying "if we outlaw it will won't be used" is also pretty logical, it just doesn't happen in reality. Why not do what we can do make the drugs (like MDMA etc) safer?

Ice is a whole other kettle of fish requiring a whole other solution. That shit is just nuts.

 

[Apple Farmer]

If you are a reader I really recommend you read High Society by Ben Elton. Entertaining book that puts all points of view in this argument in a fictional context. Might change a few people's point of view.

 

[edgie]

Cultural change will.not.happen under prohibition because it prevents the stigma from ever being removed. Basically every stat I've seen about countries and states which have legalised drugs has been a reduction of use.

Australia is a very unique kettle of fish. We can barely handle our grog, especially when compared to other countries. What makes you think legal drugs will improve it?

 

[Eddie Dingle]

Australia is a very unique kettle of fish. We can barely handle our grog, especially when compared to other countries. What makes you think legal drugs will improve it?

Fair point that.

 

[edgie]

I concede I'm not even good and consistent at holding this argument because marijuana should not be illegal IMO, but that's about it. All other drugs can GAGF'd.

Well except steroids. Not anabolic ones for getting huge, but the kind the doctor prescribes to you. They're awesome.

 

[Dylan8]

Australia is a very unique kettle of fish. We can barely handle our grog, especially when compared to other countries. What makes you think legal drugs will improve it?

Can you explain what your point is here because

 

[Jumbo]

Cultural change will.not.happen under prohibition because it prevents the stigma from ever being removed. Basically every stat I've seen about countries and states which have legalised drugs has been a reduction of use. Again it sounds pretty logical to say "if you legalise it it will be more prevalent" but saying "if we outlaw it will won't be used" is also pretty logical, it just doesn't happen in reality. Why not do what we can do make the drugs (like MDMA etc) safer?

Ice is a whole other kettle of fish requiring a whole other solution. That shit is just nuts.

Do you think that less people would smoke dope if it was legalised?

 

[edgie]

Can you explain what your point is here because

I don't really think I should have to but here goes in TL;DR format.

Aussies can't handle their substances. More availability will equal more problems.

 

[Jumbo]

I don't really think I should have to but here goes in TL;DR format.

Aussies can't handle their substances. Culture won't allow it.

That's why none of us know our national anthem.

 

[Dylan8]

Do you think that less people would smoke dope if it was legalised?

http://www.drugpolicy.org/news/2015...ation-washington-state-one-year-status-report

More imporant points being made here but: Youth marijuana use has not increased since the passage of I-502.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...-marijuana-use-falls-as-more-states-legalize/

 

[Dylan8]

I don't really think I should have to but here goes in TL;DR format.

Aussies can't handle their substances. More availability will equal more problems.

Well this is pretty broad and general. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

[Eddie Dingle]

That's why none of us know our national anthem.

Bullshit.

Ostrayans all let us root Joyce for she is young and free....

 

[Dylan8]

girt #vocabulary

 

[Jumbo]

http://www.drugpolicy.org/news/2015...ation-washington-state-one-year-status-report

More imporant points being made here but: Youth marijuana use has not increased since the passage of I-502.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...-marijuana-use-falls-as-more-states-legalize/

Was the author stoned at the time of writing this passage:- "Since adult possession of marijuana became legal eighteen months ago, the state has benefitted from a dramatic decrease in marijuana arrests and convictions" No shit sherlock

It would also be interesting if they would have addressed if whilst there was no increase in youth use of dope if there was a increase/decline in their illicit drug use in other forms.

 

[Jumbo]

girt #vocabulary

Did you have permission from RussellEbertHandball for your use of the word 'girt'?

 

[Dylan8]

Was the author stoned at the time of writing this passage:- "Since adult possession of marijuana became legal eighteen months ago, the state has benefitted from a dramatic decrease in marijuana arrests and convictions" No shit sherlock

This is a good thing though, as police resources, misused as they are, can be dedicated to something other than arresting low level pot dealers and 15 year old kids with a couple of grams on their person.

 

[Dylan8]

Did you have permission from RussellEbertHandball for your use of the word 'girt'?

It's me bloody birthright, moite.

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

Did you have permission from RussellEbertHandball for your use of the word 'girt'?

The more the merry that use it.

 

[Dylan8]

It would also be interesting if they would have addressed if whilst there was no increase in youth use of dope if there was a increase/decline in their illicit drug use in other forms.

I also would like more stats, even if they went against my argument. IDGAF about being right I just want to see the evidence for and against.

 

[Eddie Dingle]

I also would like more stats, even if they went against my argument. IDGAF about being right I just want to see the evidence for and against.

**** off.

You spec mods love being right.

campaigners.

 

[Dylan8]

**** off.

You spec mods love being right.

campaigners.

I lied I love being right #leftietho

 

[Zakk Wylde]

Mowing the lawn on a day like this? Your grass is going to have a bad time.

Moved 8TN Of soil today and laid 150m2 of lawn.

I'm dying.

 

[Wind Power]

**** I wont be listening to ABC radio morning shift next year. This is a big backward step. Clarke just isnt smart enough to run hard hitting interviews and in depth interviews.

http://indaily.com.au/news/local/2015/12/04/abc-891s-new-line-up-clarke-in-henschke-moves-to-drive/

http://indaily.com.au/news/local/2015/12/04/abc-891s-new-line-up-clarke-in-henschke-moves-to-drive/

At least the breakfast shift stays the same with Matt and Dave.

 

[charcolechaddy]

Moved 8TN Of soil today and laid 150m2 of lawn.

I'm dying.

That's a lot of pot.

 

[Zakk Wylde]

That's a lot of pot.

Different house m8