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doubt it. there's always been cheap shot pricks around.

what's different is the juicehead/steroid/beefcake culture. nowadays it's extremely easy (and even expected) to be massive and the quickest way to do that is with roids. an extra 10-15kgs behind that punch makes a big difference.

Yeah, I reckon that the "fitness" culture has played a part.

What about binge drinking? As opposed to the olden days when you just hit the sauce at a steady rate for 16 hours.
 
I would argue that social media has given a lot more opportunity to understand and ease other people's emotions, pain and suffering than any detached tribe or isolated farm ever did.

Imagine never meeting someone like you because you only know 50 people.

There is a huge difference between being an acquaintance of someone and being willing to sacrifice your own safety and security for those people. Communities were created from people who resonated with each other - who shared the same views and beliefs - that's how clubs like the Port Adelaide Football Club was created. If you don't know people like you in your area or didn't agree with what someone had to say, you packed up your shit and moved to a place that would. That's what led to the migration of cultures throughout the world.

Now, we stay in the same place and reach out with the technological tentacles of social media, harvesting what we can for ourselves when we need it but never really growing as a society. Too afraid to leave the safety of our own bubble of warmth, too reluctant and adversarial to accept a different point of view might have some merit or that our own is flawed in some way, like as if letting someone else into our little microcosm of belief systems will somehow corrupt our entire viewpoint. That's why those who are racist, misogynistic, bigoted or whatever will simply pack up and leave a forum like this instead of adjusting their world viewpoint - people feel there is nothing at stake with social media so they post whatever puerile shit they want, even if in doing so it offends others.

If you think there is nothing wrong with society today, good luck to you. My line of thinking goes more like this:



Major drag, huh.
 

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I actually feel nothing for any of this news, nothing at all. In fact I don't even read the articles, what's the point. I genuinely don't want to know.

I have literally become the blank soulless face of a feel meme.
If you ever have a kid one day....

Sh** you feel changes

I was the same ...i read stuff like this and thought that's messed up and carried on with life...

My son is one now....in that year these stories have made me feel sick to my stomach....

The father killing his kids and the 2 month old...just takes my breath away in horror now....

And the one punch thing is just heartbreaking to me....

Before my son ....I felt nothing for these stories ...
 
If you ever have a kid one day....

Sh** you feel changes

I was the same ...i read stuff like this and thought that's messed up and carried on with life...

My son is one now....in that year these stories have made me feel sick to my stomach....

The father killing his kids and the 2 month old...just takes my breath away in horror now....

And the one punch thing is just heartbreaking to me....

Before my son ....I felt nothing for these stories ...

It sure does resonate and stretch the heart strings for those who have children...... If they were my children, I would be numb for the rest of my life and not care about the world. Not even our great club could bring me out of despair if we won a premiership.
 
doubt it. there's always been cheap shot pricks around.

what's different is the juicehead/steroid/beefcake culture. nowadays it's extremely easy (and even expected) to be massive and the quickest way to do that is with roids. an extra 10-15kgs behind that punch makes a big difference.

You know it's funny because a few mates and I were talking about this just yesterday.

Back in the day if a one on one blue turned into a full on stink the numbers would get hazy but one on one punch ups were still a thing. Blokes self policed it and if you saw one of your mates jump in well you pulled them out and the other blokes would do the same. Sometimes you won and sometimes you lost but if you did cop a touch up you wouldn't run away and round up as many mates as you could for revenge.

I don't remember ever seeing blokes king hit campaigners from behind like you do now.

Your own mates would ****ing bash you for being a weak campaigner if you did any sort of dog act like that.

It was a different time and if you couldn't fight you stayed out of fights.

These days every campaigner that does beach weights and wears his little sisters t-shirts thinks he can blue.
 
Sorry to bring down the mood,
But I have seriously hit the wall with what happened down here in Port Lincoln.

Barely knew the guy, sort of knew the family, went to school with one of his bothers, think his missus was a semi- regular at work for coffee, it all happened about a kilometre from where I live - it's all just stuffed and I can't process it any more...

I think there are a lot of people in the same boat as you mate and I don't know what to say that will make it any better. Maybe give your kids a big hug and tell them you love them.

It's been a tough week. Without going into details too much. I work with a relative of the family and the way it has played out from Monday morning has been one devastating piece of news after the other.

Then after all the family has been through the ****ing media has been harassing the widow and her family. It makes me angry that they don't have any sympathy and all they want is first dibs on a "story".
This is a real poor effort from those people parading as journalists, get the **** out of our town and let the family grieve.

It has affected the whole town and as a father tears knots in my stomach.
 
You know it's funny because a few mates and I were talking about this just yesterday.

Back in the day if a one on one blue turned into a full on stink the numbers would get hazy but one on one punch ups were still a thing. Blokes self policed it and if you saw one of your mates jump in well you pulled them out and the other blokes would do the same. Sometimes you won and sometimes you lost but if you did cop a touch up you wouldn't run away and round up as many mates as you could for revenge.

I don't remember ever seeing blokes king hit campaigners from behind like you do now.

Your own mates would ****ing bash you for being a weak campaigner if you did any sort of dog act like that.

It was a different time and if you couldn't fight you stayed out of fights.

These days every campaigner that does beach weights and wears his little sisters t-shirts thinks he can blue.
That's the big difference these days. The loser always has to tool up or gang up, can't just take the beating. I reckon phones cause this as your shame is recorded, in the past you could talk about the cheeky punch you got in to save face.

These days if you fight you are either going to hospital or prison.
 
I dunno. Suicide rates have never been higher.
Mate, thats only reported rates, its always happened but not been something one talked about.
 

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Mate, thats only reported rates, its always happened but not been something one talked about.
Yep the media and police still don't report it, mental health is a government to hard basket full time case.

Also coroner's seem to use a best outcome theory, probably to help the grieving family.
 
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I feel like I have a pretty good understanding of depression, but I struggle to imagine a version where you think its ok to kill someone you love.
I don't think someone with depression would, but I think there was some other form of mental illness involved.
 
There is a huge difference between being an acquaintance of someone and being willing to sacrifice your own safety and security for those people. Communities were created from people who resonated with each other - who shared the same views and beliefs - that's how clubs like the Port Adelaide Football Club was created. If you don't know people like you in your area or didn't agree with what someone had to say, you packed up your shit and moved to a place that would. That's what led to the migration of cultures throughout the world.
Thats a really rose-coloured glasses way of rewriting history that shows most migration in European history resulted either from people being actively forced out, or taking advantage of `new' resources that belonged to someone else. Its a lot easier to crush native populations when there's a unified front of no communication.

Communication is the single most humanising experience in the world, for example seeing first hand comments on oppression from the people on the wrong end of it.

Now, we stay in the same place and reach out with the technological tentacles of social media, harvesting what we can for ourselves when we need it but never really growing as a society. Too afraid to leave the safety of our own bubble of warmth, too reluctant and adversarial to accept a different point of view might have some merit or that our own is flawed in some way, like as if letting someone else into our little microcosm of belief systems will somehow corrupt our entire viewpoint.
Do you really think that this is a new thing? My grandad never used the internet, but he was racist against pretty much every non white protestant (including the Irish) until he actually interacted with them.

It has always been easy to isolate yourself from the outside, but the new thing we can do now that is impossible without our breadth of communication, is choose to let people in, even when we can't walk to their house.

If you think there is nothing wrong with society today, good luck to you.
There's plenty wrong with it, but being stuck in a tiny community is not an improvement. This mythic golden age you are imagine is pretty much exclusively the domain of straight white guys who aren't starving at that exact moment.
 

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Shit, I thought it was weird he was on Rage right now. Amused nostalgia turns to ahhh ****.

Parade of dead ****ers on Rage this morning, Stevie Wright, Natalie Cole, drummer from The Specials and the Guru.
 
Thats a really rose-coloured glasses way of rewriting history that shows most migration in European history resulted either from people being actively forced out, or taking advantage of `new' resources that belonged to someone else. Its a lot easier to crush native populations when there's a unified front of no communication.

Communication is the single most humanising experience in the world, for example seeing first hand comments on oppression from the people on the wrong end of it.

Do you really think that this is a new thing? My grandad never used the internet, but he was racist against pretty much every non white protestant (including the Irish) until he actually interacted with them.

It has always been easy to isolate yourself from the outside, but the new thing we can do now that is impossible without our breadth of communication, is choose to let people in, even when we can't walk to their house.

There's plenty wrong with it, but being stuck in a tiny community is not an improvement. This mythic golden age you are imagine is pretty much exclusively the domain of straight white guys who aren't starving at that exact moment.

And you're equating history to European expansion whereas I'm referring to the expansion of Aboriginal, Polynesian, Aleut and other indigenous people throughout the earth. No one is saying that there isn't good that can come from social media - it brings to light a lot of issues that would otherwise be ignored. My issue with it is that simply changing a profile picture so it is superimposed with the French flag is equated with actual societal improvement while the same people post selfishly to the point where they have to be congratulated by others for doing something a simple as buying flowers for their grandmother.

I'm not saying the past was a mythic golden age. I'm saying that with the advances in technology, people should be interacting with each other on an even closer level with greater understanding but instead the vast majority are using it to become less tolerant and accepting of other ideas and beliefs because there is no reason to compromise - you'll always be able to find whatever number of people to agree with you if you look hard enough. There are things that I don't agree with, but as I've grown more mature I've come to realize that it's just someone's opinion and their lifestyle choice, and who am I to tell them what to think or believe? Who am I to pass judgement when it seems to be working perfectly fine for them? The only time I will speak up about it is when their choice adversely affects my own (like a terrorist bombing).

Communication can humanize but also de-humanize just as quickly. You've seen it first hand with sexist and misogynistic comments. But it's far easier to make those comments when you don't know the person you are speaking with personally. That's what I was trying to get at with having a smaller community - it's more the appreciation for the other person rather than the actual proximity that is important.
 
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