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Is that your bookshelf Doc?

Yes, I particularly enjoyed the art of war by Sun Tzu, and Learn To Play Guitar(and become a douchewagon leftist hipster and other activities).
 

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I feel we don't have any charisma in politics anymore. Just media yesmen. Tony is just a bit deluded. Knight an englishmen(greek), I mean why not?

Is it any wonder? The people hate charisma in politicians.
 
The bad thing is labor is not any better. The lack of quality in Australian politics is seriously telling at the moment. The major parties are tripe and the minority parties act typically of minority parties, batshit crazy.

Unfortunately politics is now a career where most spend years learning how to 'politic' which inevitably leads them to defeating anyone that can actually 'govern'. We are left with mostly people that possess excellent 'politic skills' but rubbish 'governing skills'.

How some people become ministers of portfolios is as big a mystery to me as some of TSW's magic.

NB: 'politic skills' = spin doctor bullshit, 'governing skills' = successfully managing
 
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The bad thing is labor is not any better. The lack of quality in Australian politics is seriously telling at the moment. The major parties are tripe and the minority parties act typically of minority parties, batshit crazy.

Most are pretty pathetic but at least Labor come from a morally decent philosophy (obviously IMO). Even though their incumbents too often forget it.
Far too many career politicians who are nearly all inevitably centre right.
 
I always make the mistake of sliding into these arguments with the middle-aged and elderly.

"OUR POLITICIANS ARE PAID TOO MUCH *same breath* OUR POLITICIANS ARE SHITHOUSE"

- "Perhaps if we paid more we'd attract a higher calibre of politician? Why would you leave the comfort of a similarly-tiered position in the private sector to be publicly dragged through the mud for markedly lesser pay? And you're wondering why we keep being presented with the option of these clowns or those clowns?"

*head explodes*
We'd end up with the same people just more detached. They are pro pollies.
 

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Most are pretty pathetic but at least Labor come from a morally decent philosophy (obviously IMO). Even though their incumbents too often forget it.
Far too many career politicians who are nearly all inevitably centre right.
Nah, an ALP MP who wasn't a union official or staffer before entering parliament is almost as rare as unicorns. Like / dislike one side or the other, but at least the right have SOME people who've worked in the real world.
 
Nah, an ALP MP who wasn't a union official or staffer before entering parliament is almost as rare as unicorns. Like / dislike one side or the other, but at least the right have SOME people who've worked in the real world.

And to celebrate that they treat everyone currently working in the real world like garbage.

The ALP are centre right these days anyway. The coalition is just right. There isn't any centre about it.

If you want to vote left of centre you can vote green (which is too extreme for a lot of people, but they are the only party that didn't go to the last election with some pretty disgusting policies in regards to basic human rights), or you can not vote at all. There isn't a lot of choice.
 
And to celebrate that they treat everyone currently working in the real world like garbage.

The ALP are centre right these days anyway. The coalition is just right. There isn't any centre about it.

If you want to vote left of centre you can vote green (which is too extreme for a lot of people, but they are the only party that didn't go to the last election with some pretty disgusting policies in regards to basic human rights), or you can not vote at all. There isn't a lot of choice.

Do they have any policies?

Is saying NO a policy?
 
Do they have any policies?

Is saying NO a policy?

The greens, you mean?

Saying no to the Labor/Coalition asylum seeker policy is a policy is a good enough policy in itself, given that community processing would be ridiculously cheaper and more humane.

Actually "more humane" isn't right

Just humane
 

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The greens, you mean?

Saying no to the Labor/Coalition asylum seeker policy is a policy is a good enough policy in itself, given that community processing would be ridiculously cheaper and more humane.

Actually "more humane" isn't right

Just humane
So, saying NO is a policy, they do have lots of policies then:D
 
So, saying NO is a policy, they do have lots of policies then:D

Given that the Coalition won government on a massive No policy (No carbon tax, no mining tax, no university fee regulation, no action on climate change, no support for the underprivileged) this is a really odd comment to make.
 
I caught about 20 minutes on ABCNews 24 just after the story broke this arvo and political editor Chris Uhlmann made an interesting point. He said

Rudd got kicked out because he was hopeless communicating to staff, cabinet members and other ministers and the back bench.
Gillard failed because she had poor judgement in making policy announcements and policy ideas.
Abbott is bad at both and that's why if he goes down he will go down quicker than Rudd ( Nov 2007 to June 2010) and Gillard (June 2010 to June 2013).

Chris said that if Abbott loses he will do the right thing and leave parliament unlike Rudd who believed the people still were on his side, whereas Abbott doesn't have the electorate goodwill like Rudd had, basically said Abbott only has one shot given he has been opposition leader since December 2009. Rudd had 11 months as opposition leader. Chris said Abbott is a good man and good men dont hurt their party. I couldnt work out if that was a big shot at Rudd, or because both Chris and Abbott trained as priests for about half the training time before leaving that they have a close relationship and he reckons he knows the man well and he has less ego/more character than Rudd.
 
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