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It would be nice to live in a fantasy world full of lollipops and rainbows...but unfortunately mate, we don't. The defence industry world wide is massive, and from a financial point of view companies are more likely to try to become a part of it than avoid it. It is like power. It would be lovely to re-discover Tesla's secrets and pull electricity out of the air for free. Free energy, what a wonderful thing. But, so much of our infrastructure is geared around producing energy that if it ceased it would cause anarchy world wide. Doomsayers for decades predicted that post Peak Oil Production would bring down nations...imagine closing down energy production altogether? Imagine shutting down defence industries altogether? As much as it would be an ideal world, it ain't ever going to happen, because money

I'm not sure what your argument is?

I'm saying if the argument is we can't bring in refugees because money , we have a truckload of money we are flushing down the drain.

You can't tell me 160 billion over 3/4 years on defense is a wise way to spend money. Sure it creates some jobs , but no where near enough for that kind of dosh. It is entirely mismanaged and mis directed. Too much of that money would be used to buy foreign built technology , that becomes obsolete as fast as we can get it , and adds up to little positive social impact. If you think pulling out a bunch of that funding , and buying less rockets and targeting systems and the like and spending say 80 billion on elsewhere would cost us jobs in the aus defense industry then so be it. That 80 billion is gonna create a shit load more jobs. I'm particularly talking about with drawing funds that aren't being spent in Australia anyway.


Also I'm not sure what you are talking about with the energy thing.... This is the bullshit they want idiots to buy.. That if we move away from coal dependence that the economy will go to shit and we will all be jobless.

No ones making energy out of thin air. If you take your energy from another source you still need to build crap , and hire people. Just the same thing. Wouldn't newly required infrastructure and new opportunities actually create more jobs and more new opportunities rather then maintaining an industry that has had the infrastructure since before we were born? But no , no coal will be the death of jobs and the economy will crash. Sure.

Coal isn't a cause of should we , it's just a matter of when , what and how. The smarter countries are leading the world in this regard. The countries who want to buy into the fear mongering will be left behind watching.

As I've said before change happens whether you like it or not. Might as well have some balls and try to be pro active.
 
It would be nice to live in a fantasy world full of lollipops and rainbows...but unfortunately mate, we don't. The defence industry world wide is massive, and from a financial point of view companies are more likely to try to become a part of it than avoid it. It is like power. It would be lovely to re-discover Tesla's secrets and pull electricity out of the air for free. Free energy, what a wonderful thing. But, so much of our infrastructure is geared around producing energy that if it ceased it would cause anarchy world wide. Doomsayers for decades predicted that post Peak Oil Production would bring down nations...imagine closing down energy production altogether? Imagine shutting down defence industries altogether? As much as it would be an ideal world, it ain't ever going to happen, because money

Why do we need a defence force? Who is invading us? :/
 

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Why do we need a standing army? We have no aggressive neighbors, we have no need to invade anyone. Answer the question instead of being a smart arse?

You don't just need an army because you have enemies, you need an army because you have allies.
 

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I was writing a bullet-pointed post about the reasons everyone has armies, and we require one. However it was starting to get extremely long and I was still going to miss a billion points.

Moral of the story is, posing a question such as "why do we even need an army?" is out and out one of the silliest things you can ask. Oh gee, I dunno. Maybe 200,000 years of human conflict?

Humanitarian responses...disaster responses...conflict responses...peacekeeping. It's not as if their one role is to kill-on-sight, and there is absolutely no way you can form an army post-invasion. There has to be a standing army at all times, no exceptions. Even the most neutral countries have standing armies, such as Sweden.

Hell, they have national service requirements! Not to mention it gives 50,000+ people full-time jobs, and 200,000+ people part-time jobs.
 
I don't mind having a defense force. I just think it is mismanaged


We don't really need a lot of the attacking expensive weaponry. We just don't fly in and drop bombs indiscriminately and get into dogfights with the Lufthansa exactly do we.

As I've said , new wars won't even be fought the same way. I would rather spend the money on other things at home , have a few less bombs and these jsf fighters we will apparently get in 2020 and take the risk that leads to our downfall. But yeah m I don't think it will.
 
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I don't mind having a defense force. I just think it is mismanaged


We don't really need a lot of the attacking expensive weaponry. We just don't fly in and drop bombs indiscriminately and get into dogfights with the Lufthansa exactly do we.

As I've said , new wars won't even be fought the same way. I would rather spend the money on other things at home , have a few less bombs and these jsf fighters we will apparently get in 2020 and take the risk that leads to our downfall. But yeah m I don't think it will.

In related news a 400m asteroid only discovered three weeks ago will miss us by a hornet's boyparts.

As far as spending against risks to the place where we live goes
there's no doubt we're doing it wrong.
 
...... We don't really need a lot of the attacking expensive weaponry. We just don't fly in and drop bombs indiscriminately and get into dogfights with the Lufthansa exactly do we. .....
Lufthansa o_O

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